Childcare

[johnneycool]

Still haven't seen the footage unfortunately.

I dropped my little fella off to Play-School this morning and wasn't concerned about the care there, but I did have a chat with him about whether or not he liked it. He loves it. I could see it was on the minds of other parents there, and definitely on the minds of the carers, but no one said anything.

People will focus on the individual causing the abuse which is understandable. But firstly the management of these offending institutions need to be hauled over the coals and then the HSE, that awful dinosaur and financial black hole, needs to be torpedoed once and for all.

Unless we start forcing people in authority, to actually take full responsibility and be held fully accountable for that authority, then we will continue to have the events such as the financial scandals, Horse Meat scandal, Blood Transfusion contamination scandal, TD expenses scandal, Penalty Points Scandal, Medical Malpractice Scandals, Solicitor Client Account Scandals. We have the Murphy Report, Ferns Report, Cloyne Reports, Moriarty Tribunal Report, Flood/Mahon Tribunal, Laffoy Tribunal and Morris Tribunal. I'm sure there are lots more.

Can anyone point to any person in authority (other than a handful of underlings such as priests and a single journalist for contempt of court) being held accountable, found guilty and sentenced as part of any of the above?

The ruling classes don't do jail time, they just get retired off.

[Declan]

Can anyone point to any person in authority (other than a handful of underlings such as priests and a single journalist for contempt of court) being held accountable, found guilty and sentenced as part of any of the above?

We don't do accountability or personal responsibility in Ireland. Witness our Minster for Justice in action over the last few weeks and sure look at the next generation of political leaders in waiting - http://www.irishtimes.com/news/education/incoming-tcd-student-leader-admits-exam-cheating-1.1409732

[Croí na hÉireann]

Can anyone point to any person in authority (other than a handful of underlings such as priests and a single journalist for contempt of court) being held accountable, found guilty and sentenced as part of any of the above?

We don't do accountability or personal responsibility in Ireland. Witness our Minster for Justice in action over the last few weeks and sure look at the next generation of political leaders in waiting - http://www.irishtimes.com/news/education/incoming-tcd-student-leader-admits-exam-cheating-1.1409732

On mature recollection, like grandfather, like grandson.

[Billys Boots]

Can anyone point to any person in authority (other than a handful of underlings such as priests and a single journalist for contempt of court) being held accountable, found guilty and sentenced as part of any of the above?

We don't do accountability or personal responsibility in Ireland. Witness our Minster for Justice in action over the last few weeks and sure look at the next generation of political leaders in waiting - http://www.irishtimes.com/news/education/incoming-tcd-student-leader-admits-exam-cheating-1.1409732

On mature recollection, like grandfather, like grandson.

Wow, three generations of incompetents that people will vote for ... stunning.  And 'out of character' he says himself - he should be sued for that statement alone. 

[johnneycool]

If the young lad suffers from panic attacks, then the law is the wrong profession, straight to the Dail where there's no pressure on you to do anything.

Did he not get off a bit light, just a resit??

[Syferus]

Thinking the same thing. That bitch that was throwing the kids around and roaring at them to go to sleep would get my toe up the hole at least, woman or not. Absolute tr**p.

I was waiting for The Undertaker's music to hit. She was body slamming those kids better than Randy Savage.

Some of it was real hand-on-the-mouth stuff by the 'experts' but there was plenty of terrible behaviour by staff. Those creches might as well shut down tomorrow and save themselves a losing battle of trying to continue operating.

Is that supposed to be funny? You post some amount of childish rubbish on here but that's vile. d**khead.

Very hard programme to watch. Was shocked they carried on like that in the place with CCTV cameras. If that was my kid I'd be facing charges right now for doing the exact same thing back to her and seeing how she liked it. Watching them being thrown around like rag dolls was infuriating. I hope someone presses charges against the "carers" and crèches concerned!

Grow up, Croi.

[muppet]

Muppet, I believe that the Prime Time team obviously had to get parents consent to show the programme in the first place. The consent was given only on the basis that it was shown once. Hence not going to be on RTE player.

Cheers for that. A bit strange but there is little RTE can do.

[seafoid]

Childcare is a minefield. Workers aren't usually paid well and people aren't always suited to the job. The real cost of taking care of a child is much higher than most people can pay.  Add Muppet's observations on responsibility in Ireland and it's no surprise Prime time had enough material for a programme.

[Croí na hÉireann]

You are ignoring this user. Show me the post.

Should have done this months ago.

[AZOffaly]

Childcare is a minefield. Workers aren't usually paid well and people aren't always suited to the job. The real cost of taking care of a child is much higher than most people can pay.  Add Muppet's observations on responsibility in Ireland and it's no surprise Prime time had enough material for a programme.

I think that's it in a nutshell. .Caring for other people's children is a vocation, not a job. Regardless of pay rates or qualifications, you just have to be wired in that way. These days we have so many creches, with so many children, that it's unavoidable that people who are just not suited to minding kids are put in situations that they just are completely unsuited to.

Those tramps last night were absolute witches, but in mitigation, I'm sure they were completely played out and at the end of their tethers. One of those experts said it best when they said there was a lack of 'love' for children on display and instead it looked like they were irritated by their presence. Doesn't really take a genius to figure out that wouldn't be the ideal situation.

[Cold tea]

Were's pintsofguinness he would have blamed the parents for going to work and putting the children in a creche.