Predict the 2012 Connacht SFC winners

Started by BennyCake, May 16, 2012, 12:54:00 AM

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Who will win the 2012 Connacht Senior Football Championship?

Galway
6 (11.8%)
Leitrim
0 (0%)
London
3 (5.9%)
Mayo
31 (60.8%)
Roscommon
7 (13.7%)
Sligo
4 (7.8%)

Total Members Voted: 51

Voting closed: May 20, 2012, 12:54:00 AM

blast05

QuoteI'm talking about a team & the 04,06 Kerry teams wasn't anywhere near the level of the 70s teams

I disagree.
IMHO the Kerry team of 2004 was as good as any i have seen and put in the most complete performance in every aspect of the game in an All-Ireland final that i have ever seen

mayogodhelpus@gmail.com

Quote from: blast05 on May 17, 2012, 10:55:48 AM
QuoteI'm talking about a team & the 04,06 Kerry teams wasn't anywhere near the level of the 70s teams

I disagree.
IMHO the Kerry team of 2004 was as good as any i have seen and put in the most complete performance in every aspect of the game in an All-Ireland final that i have ever seen

On skill they were probably similar, but the superior fitness and conditioning of the 2004-2006 team would have ripped Kerry of the 1970's asunder. To be honest the fitness and conditioning of the Mayo team of the 2004-2006 would probably have made the error prone Kerry team of the 1970's look second rate. The standard in the 1970s was nothing on the 1986-2012 period.
Time to take a more chill-pill approach to life.

ross4life

Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on May 17, 2012, 06:54:24 PM
Quote from: blast05 on May 17, 2012, 10:55:48 AM
QuoteI'm talking about a team & the 04,06 Kerry teams wasn't anywhere near the level of the 70s teams

I disagree.
IMHO the Kerry team of 2004 was as good as any i have seen and put in the most complete performance in every aspect of the game in an All-Ireland final that i have ever seen

On skill they were probably similar, but the superior fitness and conditioning of the 2004-2006 team would have ripped Kerry of the 1970's asunder. To be honest the fitness and conditioning of the Mayo team of the 2004-2006 would probably have made the error prone Kerry team of the 1970's look second rate. The standard in the 1970s was nothing on the 1986-2012 period.

78-82 Kerry were within minutes of winning 5 in a row. Between 03-08 Tyrone were every bit as good as Kerry.

IMO The only recent GAA team close to Kerry teams of the late 70s, early 80s would be Kilkenny hurlers.
The key to success is to be consistently competitive -- if you bang on the door often it will open

Lar Naparka

I think the Kerry team of the late seventies and early eighties was the best I've seen when judged by the standards of their times.
However, I'd go no further than thaty.
I am certain a team from that era wouldn't stand a chance if they had top play by the standards of today. Most of them would be red-carded long before the final whistle.
Take a look at this video clip to see what I mean.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mc9VY7BKKCw

I think further comment is unnecessary.
Nil Carborundum Illegitemi

Captain Obvious

Quote from: ross4life on May 17, 2012, 07:21:25 PM
Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on May 17, 2012, 06:54:24 PM
Quote from: blast05 on May 17, 2012, 10:55:48 AM
QuoteI'm talking about a team & the 04,06 Kerry teams wasn't anywhere near the level of the 70s teams

I disagree.
IMHO the Kerry team of 2004 was as good as any i have seen and put in the most complete performance in every aspect of the game in an All-Ireland final that i have ever seen

On skill they were probably similar, but the superior fitness and conditioning of the 2004-2006 team would have ripped Kerry of the 1970's asunder. To be honest the fitness and conditioning of the Mayo team of the 2004-2006 would probably have made the error prone Kerry team of the 1970's look second rate. The standard in the 1970s was nothing on the 1986-2012 period.

78-82 Kerry were within minutes of winning 5 in a row. Between 03-08 Tyrone were every bit as good as Kerry.

IMO The only recent GAA team close to Kerry teams of the late 70s, early 80s would be Kilkenny hurlers.
Tyrone were better.They defeated Kerry every time they played them including two finals. Furthermore if Armagh had won 43 provincial titles like Mayo have i think Orchard county would have won more than just three All Ireland's.

Farrandeelin

Inaugural Football Championship Prediction Winner.

moysider

Quote from: Captain Obvious on May 18, 2012, 04:50:39 PM
Quote from: ross4life on May 17, 2012, 07:21:25 PM
Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on May 17, 2012, 06:54:24 PM
Quote from: blast05 on May 17, 2012, 10:55:48 AM
QuoteI'm talking about a team & the 04,06 Kerry teams wasn't anywhere near the level of the 70s teams

I disagree.
IMHO the Kerry team of 2004 was as good as any i have seen and put in the most complete performance in every aspect of the game in an All-Ireland final that i have ever seen

On skill they were probably similar, but the superior fitness and conditioning of the 2004-2006 team would have ripped Kerry of the 1970's asunder. To be honest the fitness and conditioning of the Mayo team of the 2004-2006 would probably have made the error prone Kerry team of the 1970's look second rate. The standard in the 1970s was nothing on the 1986-2012 period.

78-82 Kerry were within minutes of winning 5 in a row. Between 03-08 Tyrone were every bit as good as Kerry.

IMO The only recent GAA team close to Kerry teams of the late 70s, early 80s would be Kilkenny hurlers.
Tyrone were better.They defeated Kerry every time they played them including two finals. Furthermore if Armagh had won 43 provincial titles like Mayo have i think Orchard county would have won more than just three All Ireland's.

Armagh won 7 Ulsters between 99 and 2008 and can consider themselves lucky to have won the one in their golden era! Not exactly a peerless strike rate that! Think that one through again.

seafoid

Quote from: Farrandeelin on May 16, 2012, 09:53:43 PM
Quote from: ross4life on May 16, 2012, 09:49:22 PM
Quote from: stephenite on May 16, 2012, 03:50:52 AM
Quote from: Syferus on May 16, 2012, 02:49:55 AM
Well, a Rossie is going to lift the cup either way..

It's a big assumption that'll be either Mayo or Roscommon, but if it does eventuate that Mayo win, the roll of honour will still show us over 20 titles ahead of the Rossies, and nobody will give a monkeys w**k about who captained the victorious side.
Not a dig btw but Mayo 3 All Ireland's is a poor return from all those Connacht titles.

Like last year's it's Mayo's Connacht title to lose but Mayo have a poor record in the championship after reaching a league final & i wouldn't be surprised to see the winner to come from the other side of the draw.

I totally agree. Worst strike rate in the country. What can we do, just keep on soldiering on after them and hope we can add number 4 before/after the next Connacht title. It's so frustrating looking at that stat though.
i think once #4 is clocked up it won't take on average 15 connacht titles to win each of the ones that follow. The Croke Park final head thing is a huge load on the county and once it is broken everything will be different. They are just football matches for Kerry.

Syferus

One win and a couple losses and all the talk will be 'one win in x finals', this isn't something that'll wash for quite some time.

Lar Naparka

Quote from: Captain Obvious on May 18, 2012, 04:50:39 PM
Quote from: ross4life on May 17, 2012, 07:21:25 PM
Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on May 17, 2012, 06:54:24 PM
Quote from: blast05 on May 17, 2012, 10:55:48 AM
QuoteI'm talking about a team & the 04,06 Kerry teams wasn't anywhere near the level of the 70s teams

I disagree.
IMHO the Kerry team of 2004 was as good as any i have seen and put in the most complete performance in every aspect of the game in an All-Ireland final that i have ever seen

On skill they were probably similar, but the superior fitness and conditioning of the 2004-2006 team would have ripped Kerry of the 1970's asunder. To be honest the fitness and conditioning of the Mayo team of the 2004-2006 would probably have made the error prone Kerry team of the 1970's look second rate. The standard in the 1970s was nothing on the 1986-2012 period.

78-82 Kerry were within minutes of winning 5 in a row. Between 03-08 Tyrone were every bit as good as Kerry.

IMO The only recent GAA team close to Kerry teams of the late 70s, early 80s would be Kilkenny hurlers.
Tyrone were better.They defeated Kerry every time they played them including two finals. Furthermore if Armagh had won 43 provincial titles like Mayo have i think Orchard county would have won more than just three All Ireland's.

Somehow, I don't think they would have.
The stats show that Armagh with 14 Ulster titles won one All Ireland and Mayo with 42 Connachts won three.
In ratio terms, each has had a return of 14:1.
Furthermore,, Armagh dominated the Ulster scene between 1999 and 2008 winning 7 out of 9 provincial titles while Mayo never dominated Connacht to the same extent.
Nil Carborundum Illegitemi

mayogodhelpus@gmail.com

Quote from: Lar Naparka on May 19, 2012, 07:26:59 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on May 18, 2012, 04:50:39 PM
Quote from: ross4life on May 17, 2012, 07:21:25 PM
Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on May 17, 2012, 06:54:24 PM
Quote from: blast05 on May 17, 2012, 10:55:48 AM
QuoteI'm talking about a team & the 04,06 Kerry teams wasn't anywhere near the level of the 70s teams

I disagree.
IMHO the Kerry team of 2004 was as good as any i have seen and put in the most complete performance in every aspect of the game in an All-Ireland final that i have ever seen

On skill they were probably similar, but the superior fitness and conditioning of the 2004-2006 team would have ripped Kerry of the 1970's asunder. To be honest the fitness and conditioning of the Mayo team of the 2004-2006 would probably have made the error prone Kerry team of the 1970's look second rate. The standard in the 1970s was nothing on the 1986-2012 period.

78-82 Kerry were within minutes of winning 5 in a row. Between 03-08 Tyrone were every bit as good as Kerry.

IMO The only recent GAA team close to Kerry teams of the late 70s, early 80s would be Kilkenny hurlers.
Tyrone were better.They defeated Kerry every time they played them including two finals. Furthermore if Armagh had won 43 provincial titles like Mayo have i think Orchard county would have won more than just three All Ireland's.

Somehow, I don't think they would have.
The stats show that Armagh with 14 Ulster titles won one All Ireland and Mayo with 42 Connachts won three.
In ratio terms, each has had a return of 14:1.
Furthermore,, Armagh dominated the Ulster scene between 1999 and 2008 winning 7 out of 9 provincial titles while Mayo never dominated Connacht to the same extent.

Pretty poor by Armagh. Not to mention their poor list of underage national or provinical titles, not to mention their pathetic haulage of National Fooball Leagues  ;D Wow they make Tyrone look good.
Time to take a more chill-pill approach to life.

From the Bunker

Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on May 19, 2012, 08:50:05 PM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on May 19, 2012, 07:26:59 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on May 18, 2012, 04:50:39 PM
Quote from: ross4life on May 17, 2012, 07:21:25 PM
Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on May 17, 2012, 06:54:24 PM
Quote from: blast05 on May 17, 2012, 10:55:48 AM
QuoteI'm talking about a team & the 04,06 Kerry teams wasn't anywhere near the level of the 70s teams

I disagree.
IMHO the Kerry team of 2004 was as good as any i have seen and put in the most complete performance in every aspect of the game in an All-Ireland final that i have ever seen

On skill they were probably similar, but the superior fitness and conditioning of the 2004-2006 team would have ripped Kerry of the 1970's asunder. To be honest the fitness and conditioning of the Mayo team of the 2004-2006 would probably have made the error prone Kerry team of the 1970's look second rate. The standard in the 1970s was nothing on the 1986-2012 period.

78-82 Kerry were within minutes of winning 5 in a row. Between 03-08 Tyrone were every bit as good as Kerry.

IMO The only recent GAA team close to Kerry teams of the late 70s, early 80s would be Kilkenny hurlers.
Tyrone were better.They defeated Kerry every time they played them including two finals. Furthermore if Armagh had won 43 provincial titles like Mayo have i think Orchard county would have won more than just three All Ireland's.

Somehow, I don't think they would have.
The stats show that Armagh with 14 Ulster titles won one All Ireland and Mayo with 42 Connachts won three.
In ratio terms, each has had a return of 14:1.
Furthermore,, Armagh dominated the Ulster scene between 1999 and 2008 winning 7 out of 9 provincial titles while Mayo never dominated Connacht to the same extent.

Pretty poor by Armagh. Not to mention their poor list of underage national or provinical titles, not to mention their pathetic haulage of National Fooball Leagues  ;D Wow they make Tyrone look good.

Suddenly perspective kicks in. Glass houses come to mind!  :-X