A priest talks sense this time

[longrunsthefox]

U see me often enough yet u dont even know it 

That's wat you think 

[tyrone girl]

  U dont have a clue and dont pretend u do - il wait for ya to speak to me next time then - but it wont happen 

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[orangeman]

Ex-Archbishop brands shoplift sermon priest 'foolish' 

Father Jones said some people had little option but to turn to crime
Former Archbishop of Canterbury Lord Carey has branded a priest who advised needy people to shoplift from large retailers as "misguided and foolish".

Father Tim Jones, parish priest of St Lawrence and St Hilda in York, said stealing from big chains was often the best option for vulnerable people.

His comments were made in a sermon to his congregation last Sunday.

Writing in the News of the World, Lord Carey said: "Of all people, priests ought to know right from wrong."

Talking about the desperate situation facing some vulnerable people, Father Jones told his congregation: "My advice, as a Christian priest, is to shoplift.


  We aren't in a Dickensian era when people were driven to picking a pocket or two in order to survive

Lord Carey
"I do not offer such advice because I think that stealing is a good thing, or because I think it is harmless, for it is neither.

"I would ask that they do not steal from small, family businesses, but from national businesses, knowing that the costs are ultimately passed on to the rest of us in the form of higher prices."

Lord Carey said: "His concern for the least well-off is admirable, but his remedy is both misguided and foolish."

He added: "We aren't in a Dickensian era when people were driven to picking a pocket or two in order to survive.

"There is now a safety net provided by the state with many charities offering advice, food and shelter.

"Nobody is dying of hunger even though the inequalities of our society are still greater than they should be."



Lord Carey was Archbishop of Canterbury from 1991 to 2002
The priest's comments have also been criticised by the Archdeacon of York, the Venerable Richard Seed, and North Yorkshire Police who said justifying shoplifting was "highly irresponsible".

The British Retail Consortium also criticised the comments and said the effects of shoplifting ultimately meant retailers had to pay more.

Father Jones has defended his remarks, saying that stealing was a "dreadful thing" but that it caused less harm to big retailers.

He said: "When we, as a society, let our most vulnerable people down so terribly badly, I would rather that people take an 80p can of ravioli rather than turn to some of the most appalling things."

[longrunsthefox]

Obviously a capitalist supermarket owner  ...  now read on...

A priest who advised needy people to shoplift has been drenched with spaghetti and ravioli by a protester.
Father Tim Jones, parish priest of St Lawrence and St Hilda in York, said in a sermon that stealing could be the best option for some vulnerable people.
He was approached on Sunday by a man who threw a bucket of spaghetti and ravioli at him as he left the church after completing his regular sermon.
A Church of England spokeswoman said: "I can confirm that did happen".
I understand the chap was agitated but Tim had a good chat with him and they parted amicably
Church of England spokeswoman
She said: "After the service on Sunday a chap approached Tim and threw a bucket of spaghetti and ravioli over him.
"I understand the chap was agitated but Tim had a good chat with him and they parted amicably. It was a misunderstanding about what Tim had said."
The protest was carried out by a York man, who said he had filled the bucket with 30 cans of spaghetti and ravioli.