Fermanagh new senior manager

[sammymaguire]

O'Neill is on a hiding to nothing. Div 4 football, only ulster county to be doing so, a county punching above it's weight for about 8-10 years now, the Mulgrew/O'Rourke era was a once in a generation experience for Fermanagh GAA with an all-Ireland semi and an Ulster final. It probably does not matter much who gets the job, there'll be a few more dark days ahead at Brewster and away grounds in the likes of Waterford, Leitrim, Carlow, Clare, etc

[JMohan]

Who is over the U21 team now?

[trileacman]

Problem is that fermanagh have at most 13 IC standard palyers and outside that they hace players you wouldn't let grace a club side. When they have these 13 men out and are well organised and positioned then they are as competitive as any side in ulster as shown by '04 and '08. However when that bite isnt there or there are injuries/suspensions or walkaways they just dont have the players to fill the void.

It's a pity that Mark Murphy wasn't available again, thought he was very underrated when he played.
Quigley will be key but we all know the baggage that he brings.
Carson will do well in the division.

Where is Murphy? always thought the same of him, was terrific v Wexford in that league final of '08.
What's quigleys baggage? He is talented no doubt but doesnt seem to have the attitude. That it?
IMO Carson is not IC standard, big and difficult but simply not good enough.
What is the story with Maguire too?

[118cmal]

Problem is that fermanagh have at most 13 IC standard palyers and outside that they hace players you wouldn't let grace a club side. When they have these 13 men out and are well organised and positioned then they are as competitive as any side in ulster as shown by '04 and '08. However when that bite isnt there or there are injuries/suspensions or walkaways they just dont have the players to fill the void.

Ronan Gallagher
Niall Bogue
Shane Goan
Martin O'Brien
Shane Lyons
Barry Owens
Shane McDermott
Danny Ward
Tommy McElroy
Damien Kelly
Martin McGrath
Mark Murphy
Eamonn Maguire
Rory Gallagher
Mark Litte
Ryan Carson
Seamus Quigley
Paul Ward
Daryl Keenan
Ryan McCluskey

To say Fermanagh only have 13 IC players is laughable.  The above are all more than capable of playing at a pretty good standard and most have proved it at times over the last five years or so.  In addition there are a number of younger players like Ryan Jones, Brian Cox, Sean Quigley, Tomas Corrigan and Chris O'Brien who will be knocking on the door (in fact all but Sean Quigley started a championship match this year).  I wouldn't be as downbeat as some on here about our prospects.  I'm not saying we'll be anywhere near All Ireland semi finals, but I don't think we'll be in Div 4 for more than next year.

[sammymaguire]

Problem is that fermanagh have at most 13 IC standard palyers and outside that they hace players you wouldn't let grace a club side. When they have these 13 men out and are well organised and positioned then they are as competitive as any side in ulster as shown by '04 and '08. However when that bite isnt there or there are injuries/suspensions or walkaways they just dont have the players to fill the void.

Ronan Gallagher
Niall Bogue
Shane Goan
Martin O'Brien
Shane Lyons
Barry Owens
Shane McDermott
Danny Ward
Tommy McElroy
Damien Kelly
Martin McGrath
Mark Murphy
Eamonn Maguire
Rory Gallagher
Mark Litte
Ryan Carson
Seamus Quigley
Paul Ward
Daryl Keenan
Ryan McCluskey

To say Fermanagh only have 13 IC players is laughable.  The above are all more than capable of playing at a pretty good standard and most have proved it at times over the last five years or so.  In addition there are a number of younger players like Ryan Jones, Brian Cox, Sean Quigley, Tomas Corrigan and Chris O'Brien who will be knocking on the door (in fact all but Sean Quigley started a championship match this year).  I wouldn't be as downbeat as some on here about our prospects.  I'm not saying we'll be anywhere near All Ireland semi finals, but I don't think we'll be in Div 4 for more than next year.

not a very confident post and none of the lads highlighted would make the starting 15 on most of the 9 counties in Ulster

[118cmal]

Okay, so I've named 12 players that could?  Do you really think Shane Goan, Lyons and Daryl Kennan aren't useful county players?  Danny Ward was probably our best back in the championship this year and Carson our best forward the year before.

I'm not saying Fermanagh will win Ulster, but I am sure they will get out of Division four.  I an earlier post you said ' there'll be a few more dark days ahead at Brewster and away grounds in the likes of Waterford, Leitrim, Carlow, Clare, etc'  Im very confident this will not be the case and that we will only be gracing those grounds for one season.

[FromAFar]

Problem is that fermanagh have at most 13 IC standard palyers and outside that they hace players you wouldn't let grace a club side. When they have these 13 men out and are well organised and positioned then they are as competitive as any side in ulster as shown by '04 and '08. However when that bite isnt there or there are injuries/suspensions or walkaways they just dont have the players to fill the void.

Ronan Gallagher
Niall Bogue
Shane Goan
Martin O'Brien
Shane Lyons
Barry Owens
Shane McDermott
Danny Ward
Tommy McElroy
Damien Kelly
Martin McGrath
Mark Murphy
Eamonn Maguire
Rory Gallagher
Mark Litte
Ryan Carson
Seamus Quigley
Paul Ward
Daryl Keenan
Ryan McCluskey

To say Fermanagh only have 13 IC players is laughable.  The above are all more than capable of playing at a pretty good standard and most have proved it at times over the last five years or so.  In addition there are a number of younger players like Ryan Jones, Brian Cox, Sean Quigley, Tomas Corrigan and Chris O'Brien who will be knocking on the door (in fact all but Sean Quigley started a championship match this year).  I wouldn't be as downbeat as some on here about our prospects.  I'm not saying we'll be anywhere near All Ireland semi finals, but I don't think we'll be in Div 4 for more than next year.

not a very confident post and none of the lads highlighted would make the starting 15 on most of the 9 counties in Ulster

Absolutely ridiculous post. To suggest that Carson, Lyons, keenan and Goan are not inter county standard is pathetic.

All the above would feature for 8 of the 9 ulster teams.

[sammymaguire]

If we all agreed with one another all the time wouldn't the world be such a dull place?

[118cmal]

Problem is that fermanagh have at most 13 IC standard palyers and outside that they hace players you wouldn't let grace a club side. When they have these 13 men out and are well organised and positioned then they are as competitive as any side in ulster as shown by '04 and '08. However when that bite isnt there or there are injuries/suspensions or walkaways they just dont have the players to fill the void.

Ronan Gallagher
Niall Bogue
Shane Goan
Martin O'Brien
Shane Lyons
Barry Owens
Shane McDermott
Danny Ward
Tommy McElroy
Damien Kelly
Martin McGrath
Mark Murphy
Eamonn Maguire
Rory Gallagher
Mark Litte
Ryan Carson
Seamus Quigley
Paul Ward
Daryl Keenan
Ryan McCluskey

To say Fermanagh only have 13 IC players is laughable.  The above are all more than capable of playing at a pretty good standard and most have proved it at times over the last five years or so.  In addition there are a number of younger players like Ryan Jones, Brian Cox, Sean Quigley, Tomas Corrigan and Chris O'Brien who will be knocking on the door (in fact all but Sean Quigley started a championship match this year).  I wouldn't be as downbeat as some on here about our prospects.  I'm not saying we'll be anywhere near All Ireland semi finals, but I don't think we'll be in Div 4 for more than next year.

not a very confident post and none of the lads highlighted would make the starting 15 on most of the 9 counties in Ulster

Absolutely ridiculous post. To suggest that Carson, Lyons, keenan and Goan are not inter county standard is pathetic.

All the above would feature for 8 of the 9 ulster teams.

Well said.

[trileacman]

Problem is that fermanagh have at most 13 IC standard palyers and outside that they hace players you wouldn't let grace a club side. When they have these 13 men out and are well organised and positioned then they are as competitive as any side in ulster as shown by '04 and '08. However when that bite isnt there or there are injuries/suspensions or walkaways they just dont have the players to fill the void.

Ronan Gallagher
Niall Bogue
Shane Goan
Martin O'Brien
Shane Lyons
Barry Owens
Shane McDermott
Danny Ward
Tommy McElroy
Damien Kelly
Martin McGrath
Mark Murphy
Eamonn Maguire
Rory Gallagher
Mark Litte
Ryan Carson
Seamus Quigley
Paul Ward
Daryl Keenan
Ryan McCluskey

To say Fermanagh only have 13 IC players is laughable.  The above are all more than capable of playing at a pretty good standard and most have proved it at times over the last five years or so.  In addition there are a number of younger players like Ryan Jones, Brian Cox, Sean Quigley, Tomas Corrigan and Chris O'Brien who will be knocking on the door (in fact all but Sean Quigley started a championship match this year).  I wouldn't be as downbeat as some on here about our prospects.  I'm not saying we'll be anywhere near All Ireland semi finals, but I don't think we'll be in Div 4 for more than next year.

not a very confident post and none of the lads highlighted would make the starting 15 on most of the 9 counties in Ulster

Absolutely ridiculous post. To suggest that Carson, Lyons, keenan and Goan are not inter county standard is pathetic.

All the above would feature for 8 of the 9 ulster teams.

No they definitely wouldn't. Quit kidding yourselves. Would Mick Murphy be set aside for ryan carson? Swap daryl keenan for paul finaly or any of monaghans half forwards? Paul Ward for Freeman/ Cunningham/ CJ McGourty? I could go on all day, here I haven't mentioned Goan, gallagher or Ward yet.

[haranguerer]

Swap daryl keenan for paul finaly or any of monaghans half forwards?

They'd bite your hand off - gallogly ffs???! Carson is adaptable - an excellent midfielder for one, he doesnt just play ff, and would have a good chance of a place elsewhere. Goan is quality, although hes suffered with injury this last while. Not sure about the others you mentioned granted...

[FromAFar]

Problem is that fermanagh have at most 13 IC standard palyers and outside that they hace players you wouldn't let grace a club side. When they have these 13 men out and are well organised and positioned then they are as competitive as any side in ulster as shown by '04 and '08. However when that bite isnt there or there are injuries/suspensions or walkaways they just dont have the players to fill the void.

Ronan Gallagher
Niall Bogue
Shane Goan
Martin O'Brien
Shane Lyons
Barry Owens
Shane McDermott
Danny Ward
Tommy McElroy
Damien Kelly
Martin McGrath
Mark Murphy
Eamonn Maguire
Rory Gallagher
Mark Litte
Ryan Carson
Seamus Quigley
Paul Ward
Daryl Keenan
Ryan McCluskey

To say Fermanagh only have 13 IC players is laughable.  The above are all more than capable of playing at a pretty good standard and most have proved it at times over the last five years or so.  In addition there are a number of younger players like Ryan Jones, Brian Cox, Sean Quigley, Tomas Corrigan and Chris O'Brien who will be knocking on the door (in fact all but Sean Quigley started a championship match this year).  I wouldn't be as downbeat as some on here about our prospects.  I'm not saying we'll be anywhere near All Ireland semi finals, but I don't think we'll be in Div 4 for more than next year.

not a very confident post and none of the lads highlighted would make the starting 15 on most of the 9 counties in Ulster

Absolutely ridiculous post. To suggest that Carson, Lyons, keenan and Goan are not inter county standard is pathetic.

All the above would feature for 8 of the 9 ulster teams.

No they definitely wouldn't. Quit kidding yourselves. Would Mick Murphy be set aside for ryan carson? Swap daryl keenan for paul finaly or any of monaghans half forwards? Paul Ward for Freeman/ Cunningham/ CJ McGourty? I could go on all day, here I haven't mentioned Goan, gallagher or Ward yet.

You have missed my point entirely. Why have you listed the best forwards from each county? My point was that the would 'feature' for these team. I dont mean they will be 'marque' forwards!