Things that make you go .....Hmmm, that's interesting.

Started by Asal Mor, October 05, 2012, 05:06:13 PM

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AustinPowers

QuoteName one thing the f**king useless wankers on the hill have done since 2010. Wankers all taking the folk for a ride, orange v green that's all it is, no policys, no legislation for citizens, nothing just look at that dead cat over there.
Will be interesting to see  who gets  the contract  for  dealing with the dead cat.

One of  the DUP's mates , no doubt. Probably end up in  Lough Neagh too.

Who says  Stormont doesn't ever  achieve  anything ;)

Munchie

Them and us as always we are fucked as a society.

DaleCooper

As an engineer, politics is frustrating until you realise it's all lawyers feathering their nests. No one can solve problems nor is interested in doing that.

I want AI maximisation in the hope it wrecks the parasite class.
 
Wishful thinking maybe as they'll make law to insulate themselves.

LC

Quote from: Munchie on October 07, 2025, 09:59:19 PMName one thing the f**king useless wankers on the hill have done since 2010. Wankers all taking the folk for a ride, orange v green that's all it is, no policys, no legislation for citizens, nothing just look at that dead cat over there.

Lined their own and their associates / family member pockets by drawing down salaries / expenses and benefits.  The tragic thing is there are hundreds of people who lost their lives and a small number who gave their lives to further what they perceived to be a relevant agenda at that time in history.  It all seems a complete waste, I would imagine everyone up on the hill is no more interested in a UI as in a 32 county state as for a lot of them the gravy train would come to an almighty halt.

Munchie

Absolutely agree, know lots of "hardline" shinners in well paid community roles doing absolutely nothing. They would have a heart attack if there was a UI, they would need to get a job actually doing something. The whole gravy train from the hill and handouts to these made up community roles is soul destroying, what is equally depressing is they just get voted in again and again by a society all sides have failed for their communities and society as a whole.

Rossfan

While I'd be opposed to any notion of the 6 Cos becoming an Independent State, a few years of it and the accompanying dose of reality could be just what ye need.
Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.

Munchie

No one could cope, the reality here is a beyond inept government, and a society living through work or on benefits hand to mouth from the British State.  The only place there is more deadwood than on the hill is the NI Civil Service another gravy train that keeps on giving.


Sportacus

They like to debate things, and pass Motions. Spoofers, chancers, bluffers.
The Civil Service make work for themselves so they can pull down a salary and a handsome pension. I've said it before, ask any doctor or school principal and they'll tell you, drowning in man-made red tape.   
Any amount of Benefits bluffers as well.
The whole things is falling apart, maybe that's the plan.

DaleCooper

Quote from: Rossfan on October 08, 2025, 01:39:08 PMWhile I'd be opposed to any notion of the 6 Cos becoming an Independent State, a few years of it and the accompanying dose of reality could be just what ye need.

A lot of northerners love to launch the free state jab at our southern cousins but lot of truth in this. Actually running a state is big boy stuff and folk in Republic have a different mindset as a result.


Milltown Row2

Quote from: DaleCooper on October 08, 2025, 06:01:53 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on October 08, 2025, 01:39:08 PMWhile I'd be opposed to any notion of the 6 Cos becoming an Independent State, a few years of it and the accompanying dose of reality could be just what ye need.

A lot of northerners love to launch the free state jab at our southern cousins but lot of truth in this. Actually running a state is big boy stuff and folk in Republic have a different mindset as a result.



Charlie knew how to run the state
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 08, 2025, 06:03:48 PM
Quote from: DaleCooper on October 08, 2025, 06:01:53 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on October 08, 2025, 01:39:08 PMWhile I'd be opposed to any notion of the 6 Cos becoming an Independent State, a few years of it and the accompanying dose of reality could be just what ye need.

A lot of northerners love to launch the free state jab at our southern cousins but lot of truth in this. Actually running a state is big boy stuff and folk in Republic have a different mindset as a result.



Charlie knew how to run the state
He did. He was an exceptional politician and got a huge amount done, most of it positive.

His problem was not ability. It was that he wanted to live like a billionaire and became a thieving **** to fund his lifestyle.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on October 08, 2025, 08:11:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 08, 2025, 06:03:48 PM
Quote from: DaleCooper on October 08, 2025, 06:01:53 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on October 08, 2025, 01:39:08 PMWhile I'd be opposed to any notion of the 6 Cos becoming an Independent State, a few years of it and the accompanying dose of reality could be just what ye need.

A lot of northerners love to launch the free state jab at our southern cousins but lot of truth in this. Actually running a state is big boy stuff and folk in Republic have a different mindset as a result.



Charlie knew how to run the state
He did. He was an exceptional politician and got a huge amount done, most of it positive.

His problem was not ability. It was that he wanted to live like a billionaire and became a thieving **** to fund his lifestyle.

Which one is true? Either you're a thieving Cnut (of the back of being the boss) or you did a good job?

When called out you throw up some whoppers

Mindset? People in glass houses, well you know the rest, Oh and Bertie could run with the best of them lol

None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

tbrick18

Quote from: Munchie on October 08, 2025, 02:05:28 PMMore waste.

As much as I agree with a lot of what has been said about the civil service, is this as big a story as it seems?
If they were missing oversight, then to implement the oversight there will be additional cost and salaries, which narrows the gap to the money they have spent without that oversight.
It could actually finish up costing more than what has been spent here.

Also, removing tonsils is a problem? Surely that's only done when needed....I know kids who've been waiting years to get their tonsils out and really need it done.

Baile Brigín 2

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Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 08, 2025, 08:19:20 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on October 08, 2025, 08:11:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 08, 2025, 06:03:48 PM
Quote from: DaleCooper on October 08, 2025, 06:01:53 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on October 08, 2025, 01:39:08 PMWhile I'd be opposed to any notion of the 6 Cos becoming an Independent State, a few years of it and the accompanying dose of reality could be just what ye need.

A lot of northerners love to launch the free state jab at our southern cousins but lot of truth in this. Actually running a state is big boy stuff and folk in Republic have a different mindset as a result.



Charlie knew how to run the state
He did. He was an exceptional politician and got a huge amount done, most of it positive.

His problem was not ability. It was that he wanted to live like a billionaire and became a thieving **** to fund his lifestyle.

Which one is true? Either you're a thieving Cnut (of the back of being the boss) or you did a good job?

When called out you throw up some whoppers

Mindset? People in glass houses, well you know the rest, Oh and Bertie could run with the best of them lol


Why not both? He used the office to enrich himself and that is how he will be remembered. But he did more for the arts and culture than any other Taoiseach. Stopped the destruction of the Merrion Street area. Introduced loads of free stuff for the old and disabled. Stood up to Thatcher. Set up the IFSC. Saved the country billions by issuing bonds in deutsch marks. Loads more.

You don't stay at the top as long as he did without keeping people onside.