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Truthsayer

Totally sectarian police force. Even in the last week confiscating a Republican memorial billboard before having to leave it back due the legal intervention.. while ignoring bonfires with all sorts of sectarian and racist slogans and effigies...

https://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/psni-forced-to-return-billboard-memorial-for-republican-a-day-after-it-was-seized-in-house-raid/a516789500.html

DaleCooper

Okay so Sinn Fein signed up to a sectarian police force and got voted in. Good to know what "nationalist" voters want

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Truthsayer on July 14, 2025, 05:47:45 PMTotally sectarian police force. Even in the last week confiscating a Republican memorial billboard before having to leave it back due the legal intervention.. while ignoring bonfires with all sorts of sectarian and racist slogans and effigies...

https://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/psni-forced-to-return-billboard-memorial-for-republican-a-day-after-it-was-seized-in-house-raid/a516789500.html

I've asked you before about your plan to make the police force better, any ideas?

Btw have you read this link?

None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

Truthsayer

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Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 14, 2025, 06:27:34 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on July 14, 2025, 05:47:45 PMTotally sectarian police force. Even in the last week confiscating a Republican memorial billboard before having to leave it back due the legal intervention.. while ignoring bonfires with all sorts of sectarian and racist slogans and effigies...

https://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/psni-forced-to-return-billboard-memorial-for-republican-a-day-after-it-was-seized-in-house-raid/a516789500.html

I've asked you before about your plan to make the police force better, any ideas?

Btw have you read this link?


Absolutely read the link.
How do you improve a PSNI unionist mindset?
Give over full information they have to inquests and families regarding loyalist murders.. otherwise it is still collusion and cover-up.
Needsa whole upper echeoleans red-out; the old RUC. Arresting journalists who exposed loyalists involved in Loughinisland atrocity! Ffs!
Use the same force and determination when dealing with loyalists/unionists as with Republicans/nationalists.
You really believe they don't know who put those 'hate' effigies and slogans on bonfires? But are so diligent in arresting a pensioner for putting a sticker on a banklink..
Are you for real that you can't see how partisan the PSNI are?
Guess which side of the house this boy is; no officer suspended..
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3wexg57dq1o.amp

Best solution: a united Ireland police force.


Milltown Row2

You read that they arrested someone with class A drugs and supplying drugs? Plus a dissident?
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

Truthsayer

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 14, 2025, 09:09:37 PMYou read that they arrested someone with class A drugs and supplying drugs? Plus a dissident?
And seized a banner 🤷 As I said why is the same force not used for all the hate crimes over the 12th? I'm sure there'd be more than a few drugs around those bonfires.. but loyalists given free rein to do as they wish.
Not only don't tackle those crimes but aid and abett in them and refuse to stop an illegal bonfire.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Truthsayer on July 14, 2025, 09:17:00 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 14, 2025, 09:09:37 PMYou read that they arrested someone with class A drugs and supplying drugs? Plus a dissident?
And seized a banner 🤷 As I said why is the same force not used for all the hate crimes over the 12th? I'm sure there'd be more than a few drugs around those bonfires.. but loyalists given free rein to do as they wish.
Not only don't tackle those crimes but aid and abett in them and refuse to stop an illegal bonfire.


Look, you've lost me with defending drug dealers

As for waiting on a United ireland to solve the policing problems that's not going to happen in our lifetime I'm afraid plus you'll still have peelers in the north and for a while 30 plus years they'll be under constant threat

I've said it multiple times they are nowhere near close to the police service that I grew up with on the Falls rd during the troubles, I've also said they ain't perfect

Seized a banner and gave it back! f**k me!

And stop with the whataboutery, going in to stop that bonfire would only have created more trouble, whether or not that is the correct thing to do isn't up for debate.

Rank and file policemen are told what to do from their bosses who in turn are told what to do mainly from their bosses. The government need to be front and centre and hold them to account, and that's why the policing board needs more control, to ensure there is transparency.

But when you have a plan to actually fix the police service let me know.
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

Truthsayer

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 14, 2025, 09:37:01 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on July 14, 2025, 09:17:00 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 14, 2025, 09:09:37 PMYou read that they arrested someone with class A drugs and supplying drugs? Plus a dissident?
And seized a banner 🤷 As I said why is the same force not used for all the hate crimes over the 12th? I'm sure there'd be more than a few drugs around those bonfires.. but loyalists given free rein to do as they wish.
Not only don't tackle those crimes but aid and abett in them and refuse to stop an illegal bonfire.


Look, you've lost me with defending drug dealers

As for waiting on a United ireland to solve the policing problems that's not going to happen in our lifetime I'm afraid plus you'll still have peelers in the north and for a while 30 plus years they'll be under constant threat

I've said it multiple times they are nowhere near close to the police service that I grew up with on the Falls rd during the troubles, I've also said they ain't perfect

Seized a banner and gave it back! f**k me!

And stop with the whataboutery, going in to stop that bonfire would only have created more trouble, whether or not that is the correct thing to do isn't up for debate.

Rank and file policemen are told what to do from their bosses who in turn are told what to do mainly from their bosses. The government need to be front and centre and hold them to account, and that's why the policing board needs more control, to ensure there is transparency.

But when you have a plan to actually fix the police service let me know.
Jees! You're some fan of the PSNI. Don't be getting excited, I'm not advocating a return to violence.
We were promised so much with new policing but it is still at its core unionism with a whole anti-nationalist/Republican bias. Why are they covering up for loyalist murderers?
You don't agree so be it..

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Truthsayer on July 14, 2025, 09:43:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 14, 2025, 09:37:01 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on July 14, 2025, 09:17:00 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 14, 2025, 09:09:37 PMYou read that they arrested someone with class A drugs and supplying drugs? Plus a dissident?
And seized a banner 🤷 As I said why is the same force not used for all the hate crimes over the 12th? I'm sure there'd be more than a few drugs around those bonfires.. but loyalists given free rein to do as they wish.
Not only don't tackle those crimes but aid and abett in them and refuse to stop an illegal bonfire.


Look, you've lost me with defending drug dealers

As for waiting on a United ireland to solve the policing problems that's not going to happen in our lifetime I'm afraid plus you'll still have peelers in the north and for a while 30 plus years they'll be under constant threat

I've said it multiple times they are nowhere near close to the police service that I grew up with on the Falls rd during the troubles, I've also said they ain't perfect

Seized a banner and gave it back! f**k me!

And stop with the whataboutery, going in to stop that bonfire would only have created more trouble, whether or not that is the correct thing to do isn't up for debate.

Rank and file policemen are told what to do from their bosses who in turn are told what to do mainly from their bosses. The government need to be front and centre and hold them to account, and that's why the policing board needs more control, to ensure there is transparency.

But when you have a plan to actually fix the police service let me know.
Jees! You're some fan of the PSNI. Don't be getting excited, I'm not advocating a return to violence.
We were promised so much with new policing but it is still at its core unionism with a whole anti-nationalist/Republican bias. Why are they covering up for loyalist murderers?
You don't agree so be it..

Show me in any post I'm a fan, and show me where I said I don't agree with getting answers?

The PSNI should like any police for mark their own homework, be like turkey's voting for Xmas, it needs no hold bars investigating. But that should be for every unsolved murder

Getting it right won't happen for generations, people literally have to die off.. but with social media I can't see an end to the perpetual Themus and usums

So when you've time, to actually give a proper answer without the stupid predictable insults I'll listen

None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

Truthsayer

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 14, 2025, 09:54:41 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on July 14, 2025, 09:43:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 14, 2025, 09:37:01 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on July 14, 2025, 09:17:00 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 14, 2025, 09:09:37 PMYou read that they arrested someone with class A drugs and supplying drugs? Plus a dissident?
And seized a banner 🤷 As I said why is the same force not used for all the hate crimes over the 12th? I'm sure there'd be more than a few drugs around those bonfires.. but loyalists given free rein to do as they wish.
Not only don't tackle those crimes but aid and abett in them and refuse to stop an illegal bonfire.


Look, you've lost me with defending drug dealers

As for waiting on a United ireland to solve the policing problems that's not going to happen in our lifetime I'm afraid plus you'll still have peelers in the north and for a while 30 plus years they'll be under constant threat

I've said it multiple times they are nowhere near close to the police service that I grew up with on the Falls rd during the troubles, I've also said they ain't perfect

Seized a banner and gave it back! f**k me!

And stop with the whataboutery, going in to stop that bonfire would only have created more trouble, whether or not that is the correct thing to do isn't up for debate.

Rank and file policemen are told what to do from their bosses who in turn are told what to do mainly from their bosses. The government need to be front and centre and hold them to account, and that's why the policing board needs more control, to ensure there is transparency.

But when you have a plan to actually fix the police service let me know.
Jees! You're some fan of the PSNI. Don't be getting excited, I'm not advocating a return to violence.
We were promised so much with new policing but it is still at its core unionism with a whole anti-nationalist/Republican bias. Why are they covering up for loyalist murderers?
You don't agree so be it..

Show me in any post I'm a fan, and show me where I said I don't agree with getting answers?

The PSNI should like any police for mark their own homework, be like turkey's voting for Xmas, it needs no hold bars investigating. But that should be for every unsolved murder

Getting it right won't happen for generations, people literally have to die off.. but with social media I can't see an end to the perpetual Themus and usums

So when you've time, to actually give a proper answer without the stupid predictable insults I'll listen


As I say, we'll agree to disagree. On the lecture about personal insults, you're well versed on that. Spare me the handwringing.

AustinPowers

Quote from: Truthsayer on July 14, 2025, 09:17:00 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 14, 2025, 09:09:37 PMYou read that they arrested someone with class A drugs and supplying drugs? Plus a dissident?
And seized a banner 🤷 As I said why is the same force not used for all the hate crimes over the 12th? I'm sure there'd be more than a few drugs around those bonfires.. but loyalists given free rein to do as they wish.
Not only don't tackle those crimes but aid and abett in them and refuse to stop an illegal bonfire.


Are all bonfires  not illegal?

Truthsayer

Quote from: AustinPowers on July 15, 2025, 12:58:58 AM
Quote from: Truthsayer on July 14, 2025, 09:17:00 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 14, 2025, 09:09:37 PMYou read that they arrested someone with class A drugs and supplying drugs? Plus a dissident?
And seized a banner 🤷 As I said why is the same force not used for all the hate crimes over the 12th? I'm sure there'd be more than a few drugs around those bonfires.. but loyalists given free rein to do as they wish.
Not only don't tackle those crimes but aid and abett in them and refuse to stop an illegal bonfire.


Are all bonfires  not illegal?
I don't know general bonfire legislation. PSNI capitulated to threat of violence regarding the removal of the bonfire next week .. so if you want your way, threaten violence?
I was thinking once a bonfire has an immigrant boat effigy, KAT signs, effigies of politicians on a noose etc is it not then illegal?.. hate crime.

Milltown Row2

Will be different outrage next month when the Wolf Tones rock up with their final final show
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

AustinPowers

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Quote from: Truthsayer on July 15, 2025, 11:03:43 AM
Quote from: AustinPowers on July 15, 2025, 12:58:58 AM
Quote from: Truthsayer on July 14, 2025, 09:17:00 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 14, 2025, 09:09:37 PMYou read that they arrested someone with class A drugs and supplying drugs? Plus a dissident?
And seized a banner 🤷 As I said why is the same force not used for all the hate crimes over the 12th? I'm sure there'd be more than a few drugs around those bonfires.. but loyalists given free rein to do as they wish.
Not only don't tackle those crimes but aid and abett in them and refuse to stop an illegal bonfire.


Are all bonfires  not illegal?
I don't know general bonfire legislation. PSNI capitulated to threat of violence regarding the removal of the bonfire next week .. so if you want your way, threaten violence?
I was thinking once a bonfire has an immigrant boat effigy, KAT signs, effigies of politicians on a noose etc is it not then illegal?.. hate crime.

But it's like I said  earlier , Moygashel had Varadkar, Michelle O'Neill etc  on top in previous years. Others have had KAT,  Tri colours, Virgin Mary statues etc.  Usual  PSNI statement "we're treating this as a hate crime".  Really? Ok, any word  of the outcomes of these "hate crime" investigations? 4, 5, 6 years later... Nothing.

I'm not sure either if  all bonfires are technically illegal.  But in a time  where climate change, pollution, air quality etc are  talked about , why  are these allowed? Are they illegal , but  the useless gombeens  in charge just  turn a blind eye to it?  The Belfast bonfire  had asbestos, risk to  electricity and two hospitals nearby.  Not to mention the fumes that would come from  it. Like, fuckin hell... In what  country would this ever be  tolerated?!

What about the emergency services? I forget the amount of call outs  there were, plus some were  attacked. Putting  emergency personnel under immense pressure is just  idiotic. What about people who actually needed the fire service because their property was  on fire?  Sorry, we can't come out to  put your house/shed fire out because all our  trucks are at the bonfires?

Truthsayer

Quote from: AustinPowers on July 15, 2025, 11:42:00 AM
Quote from: Truthsayer on July 15, 2025, 11:03:43 AM
Quote from: AustinPowers on July 15, 2025, 12:58:58 AM
Quote from: Truthsayer on July 14, 2025, 09:17:00 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 14, 2025, 09:09:37 PMYou read that they arrested someone with class A drugs and supplying drugs? Plus a dissident?
And seized a banner 🤷 As I said why is the same force not used for all the hate crimes over the 12th? I'm sure there'd be more than a few drugs around those bonfires.. but loyalists given free rein to do as they wish.
Not only don't tackle those crimes but aid and abett in them and refuse to stop an illegal bonfire.


Are all bonfires  not illegal?
I don't know general bonfire legislation. PSNI capitulated to threat of violence regarding the removal of the bonfire next week .. so if you want your way, threaten violence?
I was thinking once a bonfire has an immigrant boat effigy, KAT signs, effigies of politicians on a noose etc is it not then illegal?.. hate crime.

But it's like I said  earlier , Moygashel had Varadkar, Michelle O'Neill etc  on top in previous years. Others have had KAT,  Tri colours, Virgin Mary statues etc. Usual  PSNI statement "we're treating this as a hate crime".  Really? Ok, any word  of the outcomes of these "hate crime" investigations? 4, 5, 6 years later... Nothing.

I'm not sure either if  all bonfires are technically illegal.  But in a time  where climate change, pollution, air quality etc are  talked about , why  are these allowed? Are they illegal , but  the useless gombeens  in charge just  turn a blind eye to it?  The Belfast bonfire  had asbestos, risk to  electricity and two hospitals nearby.  Not to mention the fumes that would come from  it. Like, fuckin hell... In what  country would this ever be  tolerated?!

What about the emergency services? I forget the amount of call outs  there were, plus some were  attacked. Putting  emergency personnel under immense pressure is just  idiotic. What about people who actually needed the fire service because their property was  on fire?  Sorry, we can't come out to  put your house/shed fire out because all our  trucks are at the bonfires?
Exactly that. Is never an arrest or a word about it after. Is just to sound like it's being addressed.  Few days later,... that's the 12th hatred over for another year.. move along...