Donegal v Kerry - 2025 All-Ireland Football Final

[gallsman]

Oh dear.

[DaleCooper]

Canavan sub tactic, Murphy off at half time then on for the final 20 minutes.

In the 69th minute Donegal will be down by 1 point.

Patton will nail a long distance kick, tapped down by Langan into path of Moore who draws a defender to him outside the 45.

Ball is slipped to Murphy who bursts the ball as the hooter sounds with a sky high two pointer.

GAA fines Murphy for damaging property. Donegal lift Sam.

[gallsman]

I missed Murphy looking a bit gammy before he came off. Had that weird stumble before kicking his final point.

[Easttyrone23]

Whoever wins they will be the first team since Cork in 2010 to not automatically qualify for the Quarter Finals and win the All Ireland.

I'm assuming when you say automatically qualify for a quarter final that means having to play a preliminary playoff game or back door game to qualify for the quarter final? Kerry and Donegal both won their provincials which in previous formats like 2010 would have automatically qualified them.

The last 2 years have resulted in two firsts when it come to all Ireland winners. Armagh won the all Ireland last year without winning their provincial championship and without having to play a knockout preliminary/back door knockout game to reach the quarter finals and this years winner will be the first team to win it having won their provincial but having to play a knockout game to reach the quarter finals.

[Wildweasel74]

I go for Kerry, no particular reason, either could win, but I go with the team with the best player. Kerry have to many fires that need put out!

[RedHand88]

Can't they both lose?

[blanketattack]

Whoever wins they will be the first team since Cork in 2010 to not automatically qualify for the Quarter Finals and win the All Ireland.

I'm assuming when you say automatically qualify for a quarter final that means having to play a preliminary playoff game or back door game to qualify for the quarter final? Kerry and Donegal both won their provincials which in previous formats like 2010 would have automatically qualified them.

The last 2 years have resulted in two firsts when it come to all Ireland winners. Armagh won the all Ireland last year without winning their provincial championship and without having to play a knockout preliminary/back door knockout game to reach the quarter finals and this years winner will be the first team to win it having won their provincial but having to play a knockout game to reach the quarter finals.

Armagh's All-Ireland was also historic in that none of their players had a provincial winners medal.

[DaleCooper]

I missed Murphy looking a bit gammy before he came off. Had that weird stumble before kicking his final point.

Was slightly off balance but looked puffed before that anyway

[SouthDublinBro]

Whoever wins they will be the first team since Cork in 2010 to not automatically qualify for the Quarter Finals and win the All Ireland.

I'm assuming when you say automatically qualify for a quarter final that means having to play a preliminary playoff game or back door game to qualify for the quarter final? Kerry and Donegal both won their provincials which in previous formats like 2010 would have automatically qualified them.

The last 2 years have resulted in two firsts when it come to all Ireland winners. Armagh won the all Ireland last year without winning their provincial championship and without having to play a knockout preliminary/back door knockout game to reach the quarter finals and this years winner will be the first team to win it having won their provincial but having to play a knockout game to reach the quarter finals.

Armagh's All-Ireland was also historic in that none of their players had a provincial winners medal.

It was also historic in that they were officially the weakest team to ever win the All Ireland.

[Easttyrone23]

Whoever wins they will be the first team since Cork in 2010 to not automatically qualify for the Quarter Finals and win the All Ireland.

I'm assuming when you say automatically qualify for a quarter final that means having to play a preliminary playoff game or back door game to qualify for the quarter final? Kerry and Donegal both won their provincials which in previous formats like 2010 would have automatically qualified them.

The last 2 years have resulted in two firsts when it come to all Ireland winners. Armagh won the all Ireland last year without winning their provincial championship and without having to play a knockout preliminary/back door knockout game to reach the quarter finals and this years winner will be the first team to win it having won their provincial but having to play a knockout game to reach the quarter finals.

Armagh's All-Ireland was also historic in that none of their players had a provincial winners medal.

I'm not trying to make a dig at Armagh but it's actually crazy that a team that hadn't won a provincial in 16 years went on to win the all Ireland. In that time Monaghan (2) Derry (2) and Cavan have won Ulster. There's donegal men with 4 or 5 Ulster medals but with out the big one although obviously that mightn't be the case in 2 weeks time.

In fairness to those Armagh lads they won't be looking at their all Ireland medals thinking if only they had an Ulster medal as well. There is many great footballers on the other hand from many counties who would look at their provincial medals and wish they had won an all Ireland medal.

[Truthsayer]

Similar to Armagh... Clare hurlers Shane O'Donnell and Tony Kelly won All Ireland medals in 2013 and 2024, have never won a provincial medal. Clare's last Munster title 1998.. just saying 🤷

[Easttyrone23]

Whoever wins they will be the first team since Cork in 2010 to not automatically qualify for the Quarter Finals and win the All Ireland.

I'm assuming when you say automatically qualify for a quarter final that means having to play a preliminary playoff game or back door game to qualify for the quarter final? Kerry and Donegal both won their provincials which in previous formats like 2010 would have automatically qualified them.

The last 2 years have resulted in two firsts when it come to all Ireland winners. Armagh won the all Ireland last year without winning their provincial championship and without having to play a knockout preliminary/back door knockout game to reach the quarter finals and this years winner will be the first team to win it having won their provincial but having to play a knockout game to reach the quarter finals.

Armagh's All-Ireland was also historic in that none of their players had a provincial winners medal.

It was also historic in that they were officially the weakest team to ever win the All Ireland.

Some said the same about Tyrone in 2021 despite having to beat Cavan, Monaghan, Donegal, Kerry and mayo to win it. Armagh beat the likes of Derry, Galway and Kerry from the top of my head last year.

But they are nowhere near those strong Kerry or Dublin all Ireland winners in the past who had to beat the likes of Clare/limerick or Louth/offaly to win their provincial and reach a semi final.

[Easttyrone23]

Similar to Armagh... Clare hurlers Shane O'Donnell and Tony Kelly won All Ireland medals in 2013 and 2024, have never won a provincial medal. Clare's last Munster title 1998.. just saying 🤷�♂️

The hurling championship has only 2 provincials so with only 2 provincial winners it's more likely for a non provincial to win it. With Clare playing in Munster who have 5 teams all competing for the all Ireland makes it as difficult to win the provincial as it does the all Ireland so it wouldn't be the same comparison.

[Truthsayer]

Similar to Armagh... Clare hurlers Shane O'Donnell and Tony Kelly won All Ireland medals in 2013 and 2024, have never won a provincial medal. Clare's last Munster title 1998.. just saying 🤷�♂️

The hurling championship has only 2 provincials so with only 2 provincial winners it's more likely for a non provincial to win it. With Clare playing in Munster who have 5 teams all competing for the all Ireland makes it as difficult to win the provincial as it does the all Ireland so it wouldn't be the same comparison.

It is a similar comparison  players who have All Ireland medals but not provincial medals. Keep it simple.

[Easttyrone23]

Similar to Armagh... Clare hurlers Shane O'Donnell and Tony Kelly won All Ireland medals in 2013 and 2024, have never won a provincial medal. Clare's last Munster title 1998.. just saying 🤷�♂️

The hurling championship has only 2 provincials so with only 2 provincial winners it's more likely for a non provincial to win it. With Clare playing in Munster who have 5 teams all competing for the all Ireland makes it as difficult to win the provincial as it does the all Ireland so it wouldn't be the same comparison.

It is a similar comparison  players who have All Ireland medals but not provincial medals. Keep it simple.

I mean it's not the same comparison in terms of how unlikely the chances of it happening in football is in comparison to hurling. In football there's contenders from all 4 provincial championships so to win an all Ireland over all of them despite not winning a provincial in 16 years doesn't compare to Clare not winning a hurling provincial where 2 teams that don't win it are still guaranteed to reach the last 6 of the hurling championship and are only up against 1 other province of teams to win the all Ireland.