Tyrone v Kerry Semifinal 2025

Started by Dire Ear, June 29, 2025, 08:01:34 PM

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DaleCooper

Yes Kerry felt they left last year behind them and as such are very dangerous in that "mood"

cjx

Quote from: DaleCooper on July 12, 2025, 07:44:22 PMMcElholms first start in a county championship senior game for Tyrone I believe? Can be forgiven for some poor moments when those about him were doing worse when they should know better.


Kilpatrick has always been a sort of liability/ head the ball but at least he was fired up when he needed to be.
Another point about McElholm. When McCurry went for goal after a few minutes McElholm was virtually free beside him on McCurry's left with a back 3 yards closer to goal between them who leant into going for McCurry as he was going to shoot. There was another back in front of McCurry a bit to his right the side he shot to. Had McCurry passed to McElholm (it would need to have been a precise but a well possible pass) l feel sure McElholm would have scored the goal especially given his u20 goal scoring exploits. Also McCurry's shot was a bit weak and perfect saving height when it could also have been a foot higher and a bit more to the right. Still McElholm was better placed to finish.

 I think despite wonderful service that McCurry has given that is the last time we will see McCurry start for Tyrone.

And while l am here l think Harte should have started and McElholm come on at about 40min. Harte could have got points as in Dublin match as l think his 3 early 2 pointers v Dublin was what enabled that win and his strength could have broken Kerry down a bit. It was unfair to start McElholm for 1st full championship start in Croker and he seems a little diffident despite his lively early contribution and in my view he would have contributed more from 40m on when more space was likely to be available.

cjx

Keendey Mark. Kennedy caught the ball had control of it and fell then lost the ball on hitting the ground. The ball only touched the ground after it squirmed out of his hands.

It was a mark the rule is clear. As in 4~5 cases regarding Tyrone yesterday Cavan Joe was wrong.( Glad he is retired now)

"Rule re Mark
 2.12 Mark The Referee   shall award a Mark in either of the following circumstances:   
(i) When a player catches the   ball cleanly from a kick-out,   without it touching the ground,   on or past the 45m line nearest   the kick-out point....."

nothing about balls cleanly caught sqwirming out of hand after a player falls.

Blowitupref

Quote from: cjx on July 13, 2025, 11:55:03 PMI think despite wonderful service that McCurry has given that is the last time we will see McCurry start for Tyrone.


A bold statement, He's still only 32?  started all bar two league/Championship games and was Tyrone top scorer this year with 0-61. 
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

Easttyrone23

Quote from: Blowitupref on July 14, 2025, 12:17:51 AM
Quote from: cjx on July 13, 2025, 11:55:03 PMI think despite wonderful service that McCurry has given that is the last time we will see McCurry start for Tyrone.


A bold statement, He's still only 32?  started all bar two league/Championship games and was Tyrone top scorer this year with 0-61. 

Pass no remarks on these sort of comments by people who only started watching Tyrone when they reached the quarter finals. Anyone following Tyrone from the start of the year as well as previous years have seen how great McCurry is. There's no doubt he was poor against Kerry and Dublin but anyone doubting his quality haven't a clue.

Easttyrone23

Quote from: cjx on July 14, 2025, 12:09:58 AMKeendey Mark. Kennedy caught the ball had control of it and fell then lost the ball on hitting the ground. The ball only touched the ground after it squirmed out of his hands.

It was a mark the rule is clear. As in 4~5 cases regarding Tyrone yesterday Cavan Joe was wrong.( Glad he is retired now)

"Rule re Mark
 2.12 Mark The Referee   shall award a Mark in either of the following circumstances:   
(i) When a player catches the   ball cleanly from a kick-out,   without it touching the ground,   on or past the 45m line nearest   the kick-out point....."

nothing about balls cleanly caught sqwirming out of hand after a player falls.

As bad as Joe was there's no question it had no effect on the result as Kerry were deserving winners. But that call on the Kennedy catch is the one that annoyed me the most. He cleaning caught the ball and held on to it at the risk of injury by falling on his back to win a mark for his county and joe gives it as touching the ball on the ground. Even the Kerry lads looked shocked at the call. The whole point of the mark being brought in was for those sort of reasons.

Wildweasel74

Well if he lost control of the ball when he hit the ground, how is it a mark?

Easttyrone23

Quote from: Wildweasel74 on July 14, 2025, 01:34:04 AMWell if he lost control of the ball when he hit the ground, how is it a mark?

Did you not read the previous comment? He was still in control of the ball when he touched the ground.

marty34

The 2 football semi-finals ovr the week-end were very disappointing.

I expected a lot more from Tyrone than Meath but both were poor, especially in the 2nd half.

Tyrone, after a bright start, fizzled away badly. Missed chances early on Seemed to suck the life out of them. Hard to know what went wrong.

I suppose Meath, Tyrone and Derry will be bursting to get out of Div. 2 next season. One will lose out you'd think. 

Dun Eile

Kerry players like to surround and intimidate referees. What happened to the give respect get respect. O'Shea and Clifford main culprits.

armaghniac

Quote from: marty34 on July 14, 2025, 07:05:47 AMI suppose Meath, Tyrone and Derry will be bursting to get out of Div. 2 next season. One will lose out you'd think. 

At a guess, I would say that at least one will lose out. But you never know.
MAGA Make Armagh Great Again

cjx

Whatever about failing to score for 22min with 5~6 wides and impatient ( ie. Not confident or with self belief) shot selection.
In light of this 2026 several players likely to move on. Petie Harte 15th County season, Mattie Donnelly 15th Co. season,possibly McCurry 12th Co. season(?) and possibly Hampsey?

Biggest question here is where will Tyrone get the 2 big men down the spine they so clearly need? Ruari MCHugh, Colton from minors and out and out full forward?

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HokeyPokey

Quote from: cjx on July 14, 2025, 07:31:29 PMBiggest question here is where will Tyrone get the 2 big men down the spine they so clearly need? Ruari MCHugh, Colton from minors and out and out full forward?

I think that's a need, but feel like bringing in players who can execute kick passes well, is also a big need. If we lose Harte, that's our best option gone. I think Devlin has a good pass, but others seem to lack the confidence to kick it forward.

Captain Obvious

Quote from: marty34 on July 14, 2025, 07:05:47 AMThe 2 football semi-finals ovr the week-end were very disappointing.

I expected a lot more from Tyrone than Meath but both were poor, especially in the 2nd half.

Tyrone, after a bright start, fizzled away badly. Missed chances early on Seemed to suck the life out of them. Hard to know what went wrong.

I suppose Meath, Tyrone and Derry will be bursting to get out of Div. 2 next season. One will lose out you'd think. 

I didn't expect a lot more from Tyrone they were less than great against fading force Dublin in error ridden match. Armagh weren't close to last years form and struggled to adjusted the new rules. Armagh bet Tyrone by one point and Kerry beat both by 6 and 8 points.  In hindsight that was where they were and weren't really All Ireland contenders this year.

Meath rabbit caught in the headlights stuff and bad news for them they met a Donegal side that didn't ease off and subs brought on had a point to prove.


On the league


2023 Armagh,Donegal relegated, 2024 both promoted back to Division 1

2024 Roscommon,Monaghan relegated, 2025 both promoted back to Division 1


The same will likely happen next year with Tyrone,Derry bouncing straight back. 

An Watcher

Think it was touched on here before.  Was looking for analysis from the Saturday game but can't get it on rte player.  Don't think it was mentioned on the Sunday game either?