Ulster U20 and Minor Championships 2025

Started by Captain Obvious, March 22, 2023, 05:58:04 PM

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Fuzzman

Where and when is the semi final?
I presume next weekend in Portlaoise where they bate Kerry last year in the final.

Have Kerry any big players this year?

Good to see Donegal getting a taste of their own medicine. Sad thing is they have some amazing players there but not allowed to express themselves.
I bet you the senior Ulster final will worse.

blanketattack

The punishment for breeching the 3v3 rule for an attacking team seems ridiculously harsh. Possession on the halfway line for the opposition would suffice.
A defending team intentionally bringing an extra defender back is what should warrant a 14m/40m free.

Rossfan

Agree except the 40m option should be dropped.
Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.

GTP

Quote from: Rossfan on May 01, 2025, 12:30:08 PMAgree except the 40m option should be dropped.
The issue with this is that if Team A is 2 points up and the hooter has sounded then an intentional breach of the rule would ensure Team B cannot win the game - They get a 21m free, 1 point and game over. I doubt this scenario was in anyone's thinking when the rules came in but each variation and ammendment can have unforeseen consequences down the line.

screenexile

Quote from: GTP on May 01, 2025, 03:10:48 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 01, 2025, 12:30:08 PMAgree except the 40m option should be dropped.
The issue with this is that if Team A is 2 points up and the hooter has sounded then an intentional breach of the rule would ensure Team B cannot win the game - They get a 21m free, 1 point and game over. I doubt this scenario was in anyone's thinking when the rules came in but each variation and ammendment can have unforeseen consequences down the line.

Pretty sure you can take a shot from outside the arc for a breach?

Rossfan

I was suggesting you shouldn't but GTPs comment says it woukd make it pay to breach.
Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.

onefineday

Quote from: GTP on May 01, 2025, 03:10:48 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 01, 2025, 12:30:08 PMAgree except the 40m option should be dropped.
The issue with this is that if Team A is 2 points up and the hooter has sounded then an intentional breach of the rule would ensure Team B cannot win the game - They get a 21m free, 1 point and game over. I doubt this scenario was in anyone's thinking when the rules came in but each variation and ammendment can have unforeseen consequences down the line.
There is no requirement to shoot from the free, they can attempt to either work a two point kick from play or a goal, just like in the pre-hooter days. Indeed at least with the hooter, they have the benefit of knowing that they can work the play until they feck it up themselves, rather than be at the mercy of the ref's discretion.

GTP

I wouldn't want to be trying to work a scoring opportunity outside the arc from a 21m free and additionally the team leading could repeat the breach if it looked like a 2 point opportunity was going to arise.
Would a choice of free from where the ball is when the breach occurs or a 21m free be a fairer solution? You could get a 2 pointer if you or defending team had possession outside the arc or the straighforward free. 

J70


omagh_gael

Tyrone 0-19 Cavan 0-13

Who plays who in semi and anyone any ideas who'd be considered favourites?

Captain Obvious

Quote from: omagh_gael on May 03, 2025, 04:47:17 PMWho plays who in semi and anyone any ideas who'd be considered favourites?
Quarter Finals

Sat 10th May - 12pm  Cavan v Down in Breffni Park

Sun 11th May - 12pm Monaghan v Armagh in a Monaghan venue


Winners to be drawn against Tyrone,Donegal who have already qualified for the semi-finals on Sat 17th May

Easttyrone23

Quote from: omagh_gael on May 03, 2025, 04:47:17 PMTyrone 0-19 Cavan 0-13

Who plays who in semi and anyone any ideas who'd be considered favourites?

Both Tyrone and Donegal would probably be considered as the 2 strongest teams going by the Ulster minor league. Both teams fairly comfortably reached the final where Tyrone narrowly won it. Cavan and Armagh both reached the semi finals of the minor league with both now being knocked out by Tyrone and Donegal.

Blowitupref

#612
Derry U17 All Ireland champions the last two years and not reaching this years Ulster Semi final a bit of a shock?
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

North Man

Would not read too much into the Derry u17 defeat.
It was expected in a few quarters.
Not a talented a squad as previous years but still had a few good players.
Management inexperienced, management of the u16 team in 2024 alot more experienced.
Next years management will be intresting.

LarryStiles

Think kerry will take tyrone tomorrow and get revenge for last year game. Tomas O'Se will be Kerry manager for seniors.