Russia invades Ukraine Feb 2022

Started by Main Street, February 12, 2022, 09:38:45 PM

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bennydorano

Maybe Europe will finally get it's collective act together and sideline Trump and stand with Ukraine. That would still be a positive outcome for the US tho.

Dag Dog

Quote from: bennydorano on February 12, 2025, 10:25:46 PMMaybe Europe will finally get it's collective act together and sideline Trump and stand with Ukraine. That would still be a positive outcome for the US tho.
That's the only hope. Europe needs to beef up its defence and not be relying on the US to protect it from Russia.
Zelensky doesn't have to accept the deal that Trump and his buddy Putin agree between them.

Banks of the Bann

Quote from: Dag Dog on February 12, 2025, 11:00:38 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on February 12, 2025, 10:25:46 PMMaybe Europe will finally get it's collective act together and sideline Trump and stand with Ukraine. That would still be a positive outcome for the US tho.
That's the only hope. Europe needs to beef up its defence and not be relying on the US to protect it from Russia.
Zelensky doesn't have to accept the deal that Trump and his buddy Putin agree between them.


Correct.

Not only is the US no longer a reliable ally, it's actually a hostile adversary under Trump.

Compare Trump's glowing praise of Russia and Putin in his statement today with the hostile language used towards actual US allies in the past 2 weeks.

Wildweasel74

Only way Europe get up and running,is if Germany gets off the pot, stop feeling sorry for itself,and push a large arms programme.France likewise.

Banks of the Bann

Quote from: Wildweasel74 on February 13, 2025, 12:01:05 AMOnly way Europe get up and running,is if Germany gets off the pot, stop feeling sorry for itself,and push a large arms programme.France likewise.

Merz if elected will be much better than Scholz, who is a disgrace.

What to expect from France? lots of tough talk from Macron so far and little else.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Wildweasel74 on February 13, 2025, 12:01:05 AMOnly way Europe get up and running,is if Germany gets off the pot, stop feeling sorry for itself,and push a large arms programme.France likewise.

Are Germany allowed to get off the pot?
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

Banks of the Bann

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 13, 2025, 08:55:42 AM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on February 13, 2025, 12:01:05 AMOnly way Europe get up and running,is if Germany gets off the pot, stop feeling sorry for itself,and push a large arms programme.France likewise.

Are Germany allowed to get off the pot?

The only thing keeping Germans on the pot are themselves with their pious handwringing over WW2.

Banks of the Bann


theskull1

Re - Statement from the Weimar+ group of European countries.
....... Seeing more ridicule than support in the replies. 

Do people here think the EU should demand a common EU army should be formed to help with any future conflicts being planned? .... asking for your sons and daughters
It's a lot easier to sing karaoke than to sing opera

Banks of the Bann

Quote from: theskull1 on February 13, 2025, 01:18:12 PMRe - Statement from the Weimar+ group of European countries.
....... Seeing more ridicule than support in the replies. 

Do people here think the EU should demand a common EU army should be formed to help with any future conflicts being planned? .... asking for your sons and daughters

Ah there you are Holohoax, reliable as ever.

The reason you can't spot obvious bots in replies is the same reason you believe any old shit you see online. You are gullible beyond belief.

As for your question, who is planning a future conflict? Are the EU now planning an imminent invasion of Russia? You know, the invasion you stupidly believed NATO were planning... cos Putin (and his bots) told you so.

Let's not forget, only one country invaded another in this conflict and that country was Russia.

theskull1

Oh hi Gerry... how's tricks?

Any chance you could point me to one or two of those bot accounts? I've looked at a few popular replies and I'm struggling to spot bots... putting it down to low IQ.

Anyways... do you think we're at the stage where our sons and daughters need to man and woman up to fight if needed for the EU and it's allies?
It's a lot easier to sing karaoke than to sing opera

red hander

Quote from: Banks of the Bann on February 12, 2025, 11:30:37 PM
Quote from: Dag Dog on February 12, 2025, 11:00:38 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on February 12, 2025, 10:25:46 PMMaybe Europe will finally get it's collective act together and sideline Trump and stand with Ukraine. That would still be a positive outcome for the US tho.
That's the only hope. Europe needs to beef up its defence and not be relying on the US to protect it from Russia.
Zelensky doesn't have to accept the deal that Trump and his buddy Putin agree between them.


Correct.

Not only is the US no longer a reliable ally, it's actually a hostile adversary under Trump.

Compare Trump's glowing praise of Russia and Putin in his statement today with the hostile language used towards actual US allies in the past 2 weeks.

Old Vlad is certainly getting some mileage outta that video he allegedly has of the orange moron at a 'champagne and caviar' orgy with a pile of hookers in Moscow a few years back.

Banks of the Bann

Quote from: theskull1 on February 13, 2025, 03:46:58 PMOh hi Gerry... how's tricks?

Any chance you could point me to one or two of those bot accounts? I've looked at a few popular replies and I'm struggling to spot bots... putting it down to low IQ.

Anyways... do you think we're at the stage where our sons and daughters need to man and woman up to fight if needed for the EU and it's allies?


No, no EU army required yet, Europe just needs to collectively ramp up it's financial and military support for Ukraine. Otherwise, Trump's criminal plan will lead to a larger war in 5-10 years or maybe sooner.

It'll be the Ukrainians, Moldovans, Georgians, Lithuanians, Latvians, Estonians and Poles that will ultimately pay the heavy price for the betrayal you're cheering on. Not to mention the colonised cannon fodder that constitute much of the so-called Russian 'Federation'. You know, the people you don't give a shit about with your fake anti-imperialism.

Btw, how is your Holohoax investigation coming along? You made a few assertions and then ran away from it, you haven't the balls to spout whatever rubbish is in your head on that particular topic it would seem.

theskull1

What am I cheering on?

Never was able to convince you that explaining is not excusing.
It's a lot easier to sing karaoke than to sing opera

Armagh18

Quote from: red hander on February 13, 2025, 04:15:26 PM
Quote from: Banks of the Bann on February 12, 2025, 11:30:37 PM
Quote from: Dag Dog on February 12, 2025, 11:00:38 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on February 12, 2025, 10:25:46 PMMaybe Europe will finally get it's collective act together and sideline Trump and stand with Ukraine. That would still be a positive outcome for the US tho.
That's the only hope. Europe needs to beef up its defence and not be relying on the US to protect it from Russia.
Zelensky doesn't have to accept the deal that Trump and his buddy Putin agree between them.


Correct.

Not only is the US no longer a reliable ally, it's actually a hostile adversary under Trump.

Compare Trump's glowing praise of Russia and Putin in his statement today with the hostile language used towards actual US allies in the past 2 weeks.

Old Vlad is certainly getting some mileage outta that video he allegedly has of the orange moron at a 'champagne and caviar' orgy with a pile of hookers in Moscow a few years back.
If that were true would the orange fella really care? Or would it even do any harm to him if it was released?