Ulster Club SFC 2024

[imtommygunn]

Didn't see the second half so not commentating on the sending off

But if you view it from three different views

Manager of the opposing team.. target him, if he gets a second yellow he's off, he gets wound up easy enough so might react to something and going into the final minutes of the game it gives us a huge advantage

Manager of CE... right we maybe need to take him off, I'd rather have 15 players on the pitch going into the final stages of this game, and they'll pick on him, so lets get him off before he's sent off

The player on the yellow... I've got to time it right, I must not react to this, I'll let the ref know that I'm being held or pulled or whatever (don't give off to him as that will have the opposite effect)

Was there other yellow cards given and were they targeted?

I honestly don't think I've watched a game where I've seen such an effort to deliberately wind up one particular player. He was just being poked, goaded, pulled prodded etc at the whole game. I don't know the perception of Kelly - definitely a very good footballer but I imagine he's maybe not the most disciplined and this is what was being targeted.

He fouled a lot and the first yellow was needless so ultimately he deserved it but it did seem there was a lot of goading, poking, pushing, pulling etc which McQuillan should have done a better job of. I know you're a ref and side with the ref but it was a very poor reffing performance and I would tend to say not too much on refs. It was, like others have said, very inconsistent. I thought the foul he committed probably didn't merit a second yellow but it seemed like a cumulative thing and he knew himself.

[Mikhailov]

Think Ryan Owens was a massive miss as well, probably would be an ideal man for picking up Canavan. McCarthy injury was a blow too of course. 

Was Owen's injured?

He was excellent against Newbridge the last day out

[inroundthesquare]

Didn't see the second half so not commentating on the sending off

But if you view it from three different views

Manager of the opposing team.. target him, if he gets a second yellow he's off, he gets wound up easy enough so might react to something and going into the final minutes of the game it gives us a huge advantage

Manager of CE... right we maybe need to take him off, I'd rather have 15 players on the pitch going into the final stages of this game, and they'll pick on him, so lets get him off before he's sent off

The player on the yellow... I've got to time it right, I must not react to this, I'll let the ref know that I'm being held or pulled or whatever (don't give off to him as that will have the opposite effect)

Was there other yellow cards given and were they targeted?

I honestly don't think I've watched a game where I've seen such an effort to deliberately wind up one particular player. He was just being poked, goaded, pulled prodded etc at the whole game. I don't know the perception of Kelly - definitely a very good footballer but I imagine he's maybe not the most disciplined and this is what was being targeted.

He fouled a lot and the first yellow was needless so ultimately he deserved it but it did seem there was a lot of goading, poking, pushing, pulling etc which McQuillan should have done a better job of. I know you're a ref and side with the red but it was a very poor reffing performance and I would tend to say not too much on refs. It was, like others have said, very inconsistent. I thought the foul he committed probably didn't merit a second yellow but it seemed like a cumulative thing and he knew himself.

Yeah there was definitely a foul by Kelly late in the first half as Errigal were breaking after he got the first yellow that I thought next one he's going off.
McCartan did get a yellow in the 2nd half for goading at Kelly

[JoG2]

Didn't see the second half so not commentating on the sending off

But if you view it from three different views

Manager of the opposing team.. target him, if he gets a second yellow he's off, he gets wound up easy enough so might react to something and going into the final minutes of the game it gives us a huge advantage

Manager of CE... right we maybe need to take him off, I'd rather have 15 players on the pitch going into the final stages of this game, and they'll pick on him, so lets get him off before he's sent off

The player on the yellow... I've got to time it right, I must not react to this, I'll let the ref know that I'm being held or pulled or whatever (don't give off to him as that will have the opposite effect)

Was there other yellow cards given and were they targeted?

I honestly don't think I've watched a game where I've seen such an effort to deliberately wind up one particular player. He was just being poked, goaded, pulled prodded etc at the whole game. I don't know the perception of Kelly - definitely a very good footballer but I imagine he's maybe not the most disciplined and this is what was being targeted.

He fouled a lot and the first yellow was needless so ultimately he deserved it but it did seem there was a lot of goading, poking, pushing, pulling etc which McQuillan should have done a better job of. I know you're a ref and side with the ref but it was a very poor reffing performance and I would tend to say not too much on refs. It was, like others have said, very inconsistent. I thought the foul he committed probably didn't merit a second yellow but it seemed like a cumulative thing and he knew himself.

Mind a game about 6 months ago, Ciaran McFaul was targeted from the second he entered the field at Celtic Pk, for the life of me I can't mind who the opposition were... But it's part and parcel of the game 

[Armagh18]

Didn't see the second half so not commentating on the sending off

But if you view it from three different views

Manager of the opposing team.. target him, if he gets a second yellow he's off, he gets wound up easy enough so might react to something and going into the final minutes of the game it gives us a huge advantage

Manager of CE... right we maybe need to take him off, I'd rather have 15 players on the pitch going into the final stages of this game, and they'll pick on him, so lets get him off before he's sent off

The player on the yellow... I've got to time it right, I must not react to this, I'll let the ref know that I'm being held or pulled or whatever (don't give off to him as that will have the opposite effect)

Was there other yellow cards given and were they targeted?

I honestly don't think I've watched a game where I've seen such an effort to deliberately wind up one particular player. He was just being poked, goaded, pulled prodded etc at the whole game. I don't know the perception of Kelly - definitely a very good footballer but I imagine he's maybe not the most disciplined and this is what was being targeted.

He fouled a lot and the first yellow was needless so ultimately he deserved it but it did seem there was a lot of goading, poking, pushing, pulling etc which McQuillan should have done a better job of. I know you're a ref and side with the ref but it was a very poor reffing performance and I would tend to say not too much on refs. It was, like others have said, very inconsistent. I thought the foul he committed probably didn't merit a second yellow but it seemed like a cumulative thing and he knew himself.

Mind a game about 6 months ago, Ciaran McFaul was targeted from the second he entered the field at Celtic Pk, for the life of me I can't mind who the opposition were... But it's part and parcel of the game 

Absolutely and rightly so, wind the fella up surely, but book players doing the winding when they cross the line which wasn't happening yesterday

[imtommygunn]

Ai it pretty much is.

[Ethan Tremblay]

Commiserations to CE, I missed the game and can only go on what I have read, but by all accounts EC rode their luck to get a result. 

I think Enda McGinleys quote of "It was a day for Clann Eireann that nothing went for them really and we have to be realistic about that." probably sums it up. 

Kilcoo put out a statement win against and experienced Scotstown team, and experience will most likely get them over the line in the final

[An Watcher]

They've rode their luck against the donegal and armagh champions but you need to take advantage when you get it.  Cargin have been the only team they've beat beat comfortably throughout Tyrone and ulster

[tiempo]

Pomeroy > Clonoe > Killyclogher > Trillick > St Eunan's > Cargin > Clann Eireann

Battle hardened coming through 7 rounds of knockout, nothing to fear going into the final

Scotstowns statement win vs Erne Gaels was no use to them at the weekend, nor is Kilcoo's revenge against Scotstown

Kilcoo have plenty of experience but discounting a team with 3 Cananvans Petey Harte and a host of senior and underage county experience would be foolish, personally I think Errigal will edge it

[ClubScene13]

They will be well in the game at the bare minimum, can't see anyone winning by any more than 1-3 points.

Errigal 0-13 Pomeroy 2-4
Errigal 2-9 Clonoe 2-9
Errigal 0-14 Clonoe 0-11
Errigal 1-12 Killyclogher 2-8
Errigal 0-12 Trillick 1-8
Errigal 0-12 St Eunan's 0-10
Errigal 0-17 Cargin 0-9
Errigal 0-14 Clann Eireann 1-10

Cargin aside they are seriously battle hardened and will take great belief from overcoming these tight encounters. Having said that I think Kilcoo will know that if you can stop the Canavan's you are well on your way, but it's easier said than done I haven't seen it this year anyway.

[general_lee]

Kilcoo have plenty of experience but discounting a team with 3 Cananvans Petey Harte and a host of senior and underage county experience would be foolish, personally I think Errigal will edge it

Kilcoo will drag Errigal Ciaran down to their level and beat them on experience. The two Canavans are classacts but CE (rightfully so) worried more about playing their own game than they did snuffing them out. On another day with a fair ref they'd have won with 2/3 to spare. EC also look suspect in the fullback line and struggle against direct ball in.

Kilcoo have the players, experience and gameplan to see this one out no matter what EC bring to the table.

[tiempo]

They will be well in the game at the bare minimum, can't see anyone winning by any more than 1-3 points.

Agree with this, talk of 4-5 point gap either way is unlikely

Which team has the best wildcard from the bench, maybe someone who isn't the first sub or 2 in, maybe someone we haven't seen yet? A veteran county man to do a bit of boxing around the middle or a bear in the square? Or a young whippersnapper that no-one knows anything about that could make hay for a spell?

[Armagh18]

Winter football and teams that are operating at a high level will mean theres unlikely to be much more than a kick of a ball either way. (Kilcoo vs Scotstown would be the exception not the rule). Will come down to the fine margins, a bit of luck and who shows up on the day.

Kilcoo probably slight favourites for me but EC have the talent to hurt them. There will definitely be big plans for the Canavans anyway- I'd say the abuse TK got will look like an underage game by the time Kilcoo are finished with them!

[downtothecore]

Winter football and teams that are operating at a high level will mean theres unlikely to be much more than a kick of a ball either way. (Kilcoo vs Scotstown would be the exception not the rule). Will come down to the fine margins, a bit of luck and who shows up on the day.

Kilcoo probably slight favourites for me but EC have the talent to hurt them. There will definitely be big plans for the Canavans anyway- I'd say the abuse TK got will look like an underage game by the time Kilcoo are finished with them!

Kilcoo agree like many teams  maybe in the past dished out verbals but not this team under Karl lacey. He has instilled a better level of discipline in this lot and his team can't be accussed of this s hite this year.

[gallsman]

Tell that to the Carryduff lad Eugene Brannigan hit a box last year. Leopards, spots.