General Election 2024

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trileacman

Quote from: Snapchap on November 22, 2024, 10:16:37 AMFor that above little piece of sarcasm to be true, that would require both the north to have always voted for the same two parties, and for it to have not changed in any significant way in recent times. Since the GFA, the FM and DFM positions have been held by both an SDLP/UUP combination, and a DUP/SF combination (with three of those four parties having been top dog in the last 25 years), so that rules out the former. And it's generaly regarded as having been one of the best examples of a transformative post-conflict peace processes in the world, which most definitely rules out the latter.

I suppose if I really wanted to press the point home, I could also argue that anyone who attempts to draw a serious parallel between a regional assembly with no tax raising powers, and an actual government; ought to be sat down and told to wise the head before Micheál Martin comes along and offers them a senior position in FF, given it's precisely the line of dishonest sh!ite he absolutely loves to spout.

That's bullshit to be honest. The NI Assembly distributes 14.1 billion and if the Shinners were half as smart as they thought they were they'd figure out some smart ways to use it. But they don't have any. The only idea they have is turning up at No. 10 every so often and rattle the beggars bowl. Then complain they haven't got more taxpayers money to waste.

In truth there is no comparison between what Irish governments have achieved in the last 14 years and what the NI Executive is responsible for. From a situation where the government required an IMF bailout to the position of running a massive tax surplus and having one of the worlds highest modified GNI per capita is quite an achievement.

Sinn Fein like to pretend they have great ideas for being in government and that they're going to change things for the better. If Northern Ireland is an example of this then God help us. The simple fact is that SF are like many political parties, they simply crave power for power's sake.
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Captain Scarlet

How dare you! How dare Mary Lou!! How dare anyone accuse Simon of faux compassion...

Meanwhile on the campaign trail...

https://x.com/rtenews/status/1860065445295890495?t=P6Hq_Irx-DKlej96TRgaLA&s=19

They need to get him off the streets and back to the safety of TikTok and friendly journos...

When a punter dares question him he discusses it as them having an issue and being rude.
them mysterons are always killing me but im grand after a few days.sickenin aul dose all the same.

From the Bunker

Independent Ireland candidate in Kerry Tom MacEllistrim with an add in today's Kenmare News looking specifically for a number 2 vote.

Has anyone ever seen a political ad that wasn't looking for a number 1 or next highest preference


Armagh18

Quote from: Captain Scarlet on November 23, 2024, 12:28:14 AMHow dare you! How dare Mary Lou!! How dare anyone accuse Simon of faux compassion...

Meanwhile on the campaign trail...

https://x.com/rtenews/status/1860065445295890495?t=P6Hq_Irx-DKlej96TRgaLA&s=19

They need to get him off the streets and back to the safety of TikTok and friendly journos...

When a punter dares question him he discusses it as them having an issue and being rude.
Just about to post that one

How anyone could vote for that snake I don't know

marty34

Quote from: Armagh18 on November 23, 2024, 08:46:43 AM
Quote from: Captain Scarlet on November 23, 2024, 12:28:14 AMHow dare you! How dare Mary Lou!! How dare anyone accuse Simon of faux compassion...

Meanwhile on the campaign trail...

https://x.com/rtenews/status/1860065445295890495?t=P6Hq_Irx-DKlej96TRgaLA&s=19

They need to get him off the streets and back to the safety of TikTok and friendly journos...

When a punter dares question him he discusses it as them having an issue and being rude.
Just about to post that one

How anyone could vote for that snake I don't know

Slimey Harris. His handshake with the woman was like Roy Keane/Mick Mc Carthy one after the Holland game.

No wonder he doesn't want to take part in debates. Not a people person. FG may hide Harris away until next Friday. Coming a few days after his huge 'Children's Hospital' gaff.

At least MLM, for all of her faults, will chat and show a bit of empathy.

They say a week is a long time in politics but there's a lot of undecided voters out there and with the 3 main parties neck and neck, the campaign really kicks off this week. 

Armagh18

Quote from: marty34 on November 23, 2024, 09:13:37 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on November 23, 2024, 08:46:43 AM
Quote from: Captain Scarlet on November 23, 2024, 12:28:14 AMHow dare you! How dare Mary Lou!! How dare anyone accuse Simon of faux compassion...

Meanwhile on the campaign trail...

https://x.com/rtenews/status/1860065445295890495?t=P6Hq_Irx-DKlej96TRgaLA&s=19

They need to get him off the streets and back to the safety of TikTok and friendly journos...

When a punter dares question him he discusses it as them having an issue and being rude.
Just about to post that one

How anyone could vote for that snake I don't know

Slimey Harris. His handshake with the woman was like Roy Keane/Mick Mc Carthy one after the Holland game.

No wonder he doesn't want to take part in debates. Not a people person. FG may hide Harris away until next Friday. Coming a few days after his huge 'Children's Hospital' gaff.

At least MLM, for all of her faults, will chat and show a bit of empathy.

They say a week is a long time in politics but there's a lot of undecided voters out there and with the 3 main parties neck and neck, the campaign really kicks off this week. 
Surely the leader of a party should be able to at least pretend to give a f**k about people? You'd imagine thats pretty basic stuff.

Snapchap

Quote from: trileacman on November 22, 2024, 10:38:01 PM
Quote from: Snapchap on November 22, 2024, 10:16:37 AMFor that above little piece of sarcasm to be true, that would require both the north to have always voted for the same two parties, and for it to have not changed in any significant way in recent times. Since the GFA, the FM and DFM positions have been held by both an SDLP/UUP combination, and a DUP/SF combination (with three of those four parties having been top dog in the last 25 years), so that rules out the former. And it's generaly regarded as having been one of the best examples of a transformative post-conflict peace processes in the world, which most definitely rules out the latter.

I suppose if I really wanted to press the point home, I could also argue that anyone who attempts to draw a serious parallel between a regional assembly with no tax raising powers, and an actual government; ought to be sat down and told to wise the head before Micheál Martin comes along and offers them a senior position in FF, given it's precisely the line of dishonest sh!ite he absolutely loves to spout.

That's bullshit to be honest. The NI Assembly distributes 14.1 billion and if the Shinners were half as smart as they thought they were they'd figure out some smart ways to use it. But they don't have any. The only idea they have is turning up at No. 10 every so often and rattle the beggars bowl. Then complain they haven't got more taxpayers money to waste.

In truth there is no comparison between what Irish governments have achieved in the last 14 years and what the NI Executive is responsible for. From a situation where the government required an IMF bailout to the position of running a massive tax surplus and having one of the worlds highest modified GNI per capita is quite an achievement.

Sinn Fein like to pretend they have great ideas for being in government and that they're going to change things for the better. If Northern Ireland is an example of this then God help us. The simple fact is that SF are like many political parties, they simply crave power for power's sake.

The only idea "SF" (forgetting its a power sharing executive are we?) have is to ask Downing St for money? That's how devolution functions. To suggest there is no difference between a local assembly with no fiscal powers, run by a with a power sharing executive; and an actual government, is whats bullsh1t. I think you're simply allowing your bitterness towards SF cloud your judgement.

As for the achievements of FFG, in 2011 there were 3,808 people homeless in the 26 counties. Now there are 14,760. A third of them children. Is that one of their achievements too?

RedHand88

Quote from: Captain Scarlet on November 23, 2024, 12:28:14 AMHow dare you! How dare Mary Lou!! How dare anyone accuse Simon of faux compassion...

Meanwhile on the campaign trail...

https://x.com/rtenews/status/1860065445295890495?t=P6Hq_Irx-DKlej96TRgaLA&s=19

They need to get him off the streets and back to the safety of TikTok and friendly journos...

When a punter dares question him he discusses it as them having an issue and being rude.

Jesus what a handless heure. He had no answer for her at all.

03,05,08

Quote from: RedHand88 on November 23, 2024, 11:05:07 AM
Quote from: Captain Scarlet on November 23, 2024, 12:28:14 AMHow dare you! How dare Mary Lou!! How dare anyone accuse Simon of faux compassion...

Meanwhile on the campaign trail...

https://x.com/rtenews/status/1860065445295890495?t=P6Hq_Irx-DKlej96TRgaLA&s=19

They need to get him off the streets and back to the safety of TikTok and friendly journos...

When a punter dares question him he discusses it as them having an issue and being rude.

Jesus what a handless heure. He had no answer for her at all.

He's got absolutely zero social skills, and I suspect he's Autistic.

Armagh18

Quote from: Snapchap on November 23, 2024, 10:47:57 AM
Quote from: trileacman on November 22, 2024, 10:38:01 PM
Quote from: Snapchap on November 22, 2024, 10:16:37 AMFor that above little piece of sarcasm to be true, that would require both the north to have always voted for the same two parties, and for it to have not changed in any significant way in recent times. Since the GFA, the FM and DFM positions have been held by both an SDLP/UUP combination, and a DUP/SF combination (with three of those four parties having been top dog in the last 25 years), so that rules out the former. And it's generaly regarded as having been one of the best examples of a transformative post-conflict peace processes in the world, which most definitely rules out the latter.

I suppose if I really wanted to press the point home, I could also argue that anyone who attempts to draw a serious parallel between a regional assembly with no tax raising powers, and an actual government; ought to be sat down and told to wise the head before Micheál Martin comes along and offers them a senior position in FF, given it's precisely the line of dishonest sh!ite he absolutely loves to spout.

That's bullshit to be honest. The NI Assembly distributes 14.1 billion and if the Shinners were half as smart as they thought they were they'd figure out some smart ways to use it. But they don't have any. The only idea they have is turning up at No. 10 every so often and rattle the beggars bowl. Then complain they haven't got more taxpayers money to waste.

In truth there is no comparison between what Irish governments have achieved in the last 14 years and what the NI Executive is responsible for. From a situation where the government required an IMF bailout to the position of running a massive tax surplus and having one of the worlds highest modified GNI per capita is quite an achievement.

Sinn Fein like to pretend they have great ideas for being in government and that they're going to change things for the better. If Northern Ireland is an example of this then God help us. The simple fact is that SF are like many political parties, they simply crave power for power's sake.

The only idea "SF" (forgetting its a power sharing executive are we?) have is to ask Downing St for money? That's how devolution functions. To suggest there is no difference between a local assembly with no fiscal powers, run by a with a power sharing executive; and an actual government, is whats bullsh1t. I think you're simply allowing your bitterness towards SF cloud your judgement.

As for the achievements of FFG, in 2011 there were 3,808 people homeless in the 26 counties. Now there are 14,760. A third of them children. Is that one of their achievements too?
You have to caveat whatever shortcomings SF have in the north (and I know there are plenty) with the fact that they are in government with a crowd of Neanderthals.

Kidder81

Quote from: Snapchap on November 23, 2024, 10:47:57 AM
Quote from: trileacman on November 22, 2024, 10:38:01 PM
Quote from: Snapchap on November 22, 2024, 10:16:37 AMFor that above little piece of sarcasm to be true, that would require both the north to have always voted for the same two parties, and for it to have not changed in any significant way in recent times. Since the GFA, the FM and DFM positions have been held by both an SDLP/UUP combination, and a DUP/SF combination (with three of those four parties having been top dog in the last 25 years), so that rules out the former. And it's generaly regarded as having been one of the best examples of a transformative post-conflict peace processes in the world, which most definitely rules out the latter.

I suppose if I really wanted to press the point home, I could also argue that anyone who attempts to draw a serious parallel between a regional assembly with no tax raising powers, and an actual government; ought to be sat down and told to wise the head before Micheál Martin comes along and offers them a senior position in FF, given it's precisely the line of dishonest sh!ite he absolutely loves to spout.

That's bullshit to be honest. The NI Assembly distributes 14.1 billion and if the Shinners were half as smart as they thought they were they'd figure out some smart ways to use it. But they don't have any. The only idea they have is turning up at No. 10 every so often and rattle the beggars bowl. Then complain they haven't got more taxpayers money to waste.

In truth there is no comparison between what Irish governments have achieved in the last 14 years and what the NI Executive is responsible for. From a situation where the government required an IMF bailout to the position of running a massive tax surplus and having one of the worlds highest modified GNI per capita is quite an achievement.

Sinn Fein like to pretend they have great ideas for being in government and that they're going to change things for the better. If Northern Ireland is an example of this then God help us. The simple fact is that SF are like many political parties, they simply crave power for power's sake.

The only idea "SF" (forgetting its a power sharing executive are we?) have is to ask Downing St for money? That's how devolution functions. To suggest there is no difference between a local assembly with no fiscal powers, run by a with a power sharing executive; and an actual government, is whats bullsh1t. I think you're simply allowing your bitterness towards SF cloud your judgement.

As for the achievements of FFG, in 2011 there were 3,808 people homeless in the 26 counties. Now there are 14,760. A third of them children. Is that one of their achievements too?

How many "new Irish" have we received in those 13 years ?

Snapchap

Quote from: Kidder81 on November 23, 2024, 01:06:35 PM
Quote from: Snapchap on November 23, 2024, 10:47:57 AM
Quote from: trileacman on November 22, 2024, 10:38:01 PM
Quote from: Snapchap on November 22, 2024, 10:16:37 AMFor that above little piece of sarcasm to be true, that would require both the north to have always voted for the same two parties, and for it to have not changed in any significant way in recent times. Since the GFA, the FM and DFM positions have been held by both an SDLP/UUP combination, and a DUP/SF combination (with three of those four parties having been top dog in the last 25 years), so that rules out the former. And it's generaly regarded as having been one of the best examples of a transformative post-conflict peace processes in the world, which most definitely rules out the latter.

I suppose if I really wanted to press the point home, I could also argue that anyone who attempts to draw a serious parallel between a regional assembly with no tax raising powers, and an actual government; ought to be sat down and told to wise the head before Micheál Martin comes along and offers them a senior position in FF, given it's precisely the line of dishonest sh!ite he absolutely loves to spout.

That's bullshit to be honest. The NI Assembly distributes 14.1 billion and if the Shinners were half as smart as they thought they were they'd figure out some smart ways to use it. But they don't have any. The only idea they have is turning up at No. 10 every so often and rattle the beggars bowl. Then complain they haven't got more taxpayers money to waste.

In truth there is no comparison between what Irish governments have achieved in the last 14 years and what the NI Executive is responsible for. From a situation where the government required an IMF bailout to the position of running a massive tax surplus and having one of the worlds highest modified GNI per capita is quite an achievement.

Sinn Fein like to pretend they have great ideas for being in government and that they're going to change things for the better. If Northern Ireland is an example of this then God help us. The simple fact is that SF are like many political parties, they simply crave power for power's sake.

The only idea "SF" (forgetting its a power sharing executive are we?) have is to ask Downing St for money? That's how devolution functions. To suggest there is no difference between a local assembly with no fiscal powers, run by a with a power sharing executive; and an actual government, is whats bullsh1t. I think you're simply allowing your bitterness towards SF cloud your judgement.

As for the achievements of FFG, in 2011 there were 3,808 people homeless in the 26 counties. Now there are 14,760. A third of them children. Is that one of their achievements too?

How many "new Irish" have we received in those 13 years ?

That's it. Blame it all on the immigrants.

You're being played like a fiddle. You and all your other little racist friends.

Kidder81

Quote from: Snapchap on November 23, 2024, 01:11:37 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on November 23, 2024, 01:06:35 PM
Quote from: Snapchap on November 23, 2024, 10:47:57 AM
Quote from: trileacman on November 22, 2024, 10:38:01 PM
Quote from: Snapchap on November 22, 2024, 10:16:37 AMFor that above little piece of sarcasm to be true, that would require both the north to have always voted for the same two parties, and for it to have not changed in any significant way in recent times. Since the GFA, the FM and DFM positions have been held by both an SDLP/UUP combination, and a DUP/SF combination (with three of those four parties having been top dog in the last 25 years), so that rules out the former. And it's generaly regarded as having been one of the best examples of a transformative post-conflict peace processes in the world, which most definitely rules out the latter.

I suppose if I really wanted to press the point home, I could also argue that anyone who attempts to draw a serious parallel between a regional assembly with no tax raising powers, and an actual government; ought to be sat down and told to wise the head before Micheál Martin comes along and offers them a senior position in FF, given it's precisely the line of dishonest sh!ite he absolutely loves to spout.

That's bullshit to be honest. The NI Assembly distributes 14.1 billion and if the Shinners were half as smart as they thought they were they'd figure out some smart ways to use it. But they don't have any. The only idea they have is turning up at No. 10 every so often and rattle the beggars bowl. Then complain they haven't got more taxpayers money to waste.

In truth there is no comparison between what Irish governments have achieved in the last 14 years and what the NI Executive is responsible for. From a situation where the government required an IMF bailout to the position of running a massive tax surplus and having one of the worlds highest modified GNI per capita is quite an achievement.

Sinn Fein like to pretend they have great ideas for being in government and that they're going to change things for the better. If Northern Ireland is an example of this then God help us. The simple fact is that SF are like many political parties, they simply crave power for power's sake.

The only idea "SF" (forgetting its a power sharing executive are we?) have is to ask Downing St for money? That's how devolution functions. To suggest there is no difference between a local assembly with no fiscal powers, run by a with a power sharing executive; and an actual government, is whats bullsh1t. I think you're simply allowing your bitterness towards SF cloud your judgement.

As for the achievements of FFG, in 2011 there were 3,808 people homeless in the 26 counties. Now there are 14,760. A third of them children. Is that one of their achievements too?

How many "new Irish" have we received in those 13 years ?

That's it. Blame it all on the immigrants.

You're being played like a fiddle. You and all your other little racist friends.

Has the population increased in the last 13 years & do you think there would have been an increased demand for social housing ? I just want you to be clear

AustinPowers

Quote from: Captain Scarlet on November 23, 2024, 12:28:14 AMHow dare you! How dare Mary Lou!! How dare anyone accuse Simon of faux compassion...

Meanwhile on the campaign trail...

https://x.com/rtenews/status/1860065445295890495?t=P6Hq_Irx-DKlej96TRgaLA&s=19

They need to get him off the streets and back to the safety of TikTok and friendly journos...

When a punter dares question him he discusses it as them having an issue and being rude.

He's a f××king slimy wee  weasel.

Snapchap

Quote from: Kidder81 on November 23, 2024, 01:29:01 PMHas the population increased in the last 13 years & do you think there would have been an increased demand for social housing ? I just want you to be clear

Not too worried what you want. I have a policy of not engaging in serious discussion with little racists.