All Ireland Club Championships 2024

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shark

Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on September 25, 2024, 11:27:07 AMSee below surely is a first; If Clann Eireann win intermediate in Armagh its probably within the rules to field two teams in senior; may not be healthy for the club though.

https://hoganstand.com/Article/Index/333696




I'm pretty sure St.Brigid's had two teams in Dublin senior football, about 15 years ago. They drew each other in the first round.

Armagh18

Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on September 25, 2024, 11:27:07 AMSee below surely is a first; If Clann Eireann win intermediate in Armagh its probably within the rules to field two teams in senior; may not be healthy for the club though.

https://hoganstand.com/Article/Index/333696



Not sure if they'd even want to, they're an average league team that bring lads in come championship time. Finished 5th or 6th in 2b this year and were in 3b league the year before

lurganblue

Quote from: Armagh18 on September 25, 2024, 03:24:34 PM
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on September 25, 2024, 11:27:07 AMSee below surely is a first; If Clann Eireann win intermediate in Armagh its probably within the rules to field two teams in senior; may not be healthy for the club though.

https://hoganstand.com/Article/Index/333696



Not sure if they'd even want to, they're an average league team that bring lads in come championship time. Finished 5th or 6th in 2b this year and were in 3b league the year before

What does this mean?

Armagh18

Quote from: lurganblue on September 25, 2024, 03:35:33 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on September 25, 2024, 03:24:34 PM
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on September 25, 2024, 11:27:07 AMSee below surely is a first; If Clann Eireann win intermediate in Armagh its probably within the rules to field two teams in senior; may not be healthy for the club though.

https://hoganstand.com/Article/Index/333696



Not sure if they'd even want to, they're an average league team that bring lads in come championship time. Finished 5th or 6th in 2b this year and were in 3b league the year before

What does this mean?
Lads coming down from first team from the league, minors coming in after their season finishes up. Belleek ran away with the 2b league this year and hammered ce twice. Clann Eireann then beat Belleek in the championship. Would be fairly sure they'd a different team out.

lurganblue

Quote from: Armagh18 on September 25, 2024, 04:00:14 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on September 25, 2024, 03:35:33 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on September 25, 2024, 03:24:34 PM
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on September 25, 2024, 11:27:07 AMSee below surely is a first; If Clann Eireann win intermediate in Armagh its probably within the rules to field two teams in senior; may not be healthy for the club though.

https://hoganstand.com/Article/Index/333696



Not sure if they'd even want to, they're an average league team that bring lads in come championship time. Finished 5th or 6th in 2b this year and were in 3b league the year before

What does this mean?
Lads coming down from first team from the league, minors coming in after their season finishes up. Belleek ran away with the 2b league this year and hammered ce twice. Clann Eireann then beat Belleek in the championship. Would be fairly sure they'd a different team out.

How many players do CE have to name as senior players?

Armagh18

Quote from: lurganblue on September 25, 2024, 04:14:10 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on September 25, 2024, 04:00:14 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on September 25, 2024, 03:35:33 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on September 25, 2024, 03:24:34 PM
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on September 25, 2024, 11:27:07 AMSee below surely is a first; If Clann Eireann win intermediate in Armagh its probably within the rules to field two teams in senior; may not be healthy for the club though.

https://hoganstand.com/Article/Index/333696



Not sure if they'd even want to, they're an average league team that bring lads in come championship time. Finished 5th or 6th in 2b this year and were in 3b league the year before

What does this mean?
Lads coming down from first team from the league, minors coming in after their season finishes up. Belleek ran away with the 2b league this year and hammered ce twice. Clann Eireann then beat Belleek in the championship. Would be fairly sure they'd a different team out.

How many players do CE have to name as senior players?
Is it 24? Not 100% sure.

tonto1888

Quote from: Armagh18 on September 25, 2024, 04:00:14 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on September 25, 2024, 03:35:33 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on September 25, 2024, 03:24:34 PM
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on September 25, 2024, 11:27:07 AMSee below surely is a first; If Clann Eireann win intermediate in Armagh its probably within the rules to field two teams in senior; may not be healthy for the club though.

https://hoganstand.com/Article/Index/333696



Not sure if they'd even want to, they're an average league team that bring lads in come championship time. Finished 5th or 6th in 2b this year and were in 3b league the year before

What does this mean?
Lads coming down from first team from the league, minors coming in after their season finishes up. Belleek ran away with the 2b league this year and hammered ce twice. Clann Eireann then beat Belleek in the championship. Would be fairly sure they'd a different team out.

They were in 3b as it was their first year. Tell us how many came down from the first team after the league

general_lee

Quote from: tonto1888 on September 25, 2024, 09:41:04 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on September 25, 2024, 04:00:14 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on September 25, 2024, 03:35:33 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on September 25, 2024, 03:24:34 PM
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on September 25, 2024, 11:27:07 AMSee below surely is a first; If Clann Eireann win intermediate in Armagh its probably within the rules to field two teams in senior; may not be healthy for the club though.

https://hoganstand.com/Article/Index/333696



Not sure if they'd even want to, they're an average league team that bring lads in come championship time. Finished 5th or 6th in 2b this year and were in 3b league the year before

What does this mean?
Lads coming down from first team from the league, minors coming in after their season finishes up. Belleek ran away with the 2b league this year and hammered ce twice. Clann Eireann then beat Belleek in the championship. Would be fairly sure they'd a different team out.

They were in 3b as it was their first year. Tell us how many came down from the first team after the league
There are fellas I'm nearly sure played for the seniors during the league and are named in the junior panel.

The squads are all on the Armagh website, and there looks to be a bit of a crossover of half a dozen or so. What exactly is the criteria? I take it they don't have to name two standalone panels then?

Armagh18

Quote from: general_lee on September 25, 2024, 10:38:12 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on September 25, 2024, 09:41:04 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on September 25, 2024, 04:00:14 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on September 25, 2024, 03:35:33 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on September 25, 2024, 03:24:34 PM
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on September 25, 2024, 11:27:07 AMSee below surely is a first; If Clann Eireann win intermediate in Armagh its probably within the rules to field two teams in senior; may not be healthy for the club though.

https://hoganstand.com/Article/Index/333696



Not sure if they'd even want to, they're an average league team that bring lads in come championship time. Finished 5th or 6th in 2b this year and were in 3b league the year before

What does this mean?
Lads coming down from first team from the league, minors coming in after their season finishes up. Belleek ran away with the 2b league this year and hammered ce twice. Clann Eireann then beat Belleek in the championship. Would be fairly sure they'd a different team out.

They were in 3b as it was their first year. Tell us how many came down from the first team after the league
There are fellas I'm nearly sure played for the seniors during the league and are named in the junior panel.

The squads are all on the Armagh website, and there looks to be a bit of a crossover of half a dozen or so. What exactly is the criteria? I take it they don't have to name two standalone panels then?
I think they have to name x amount (24?) who can only play senior and the test can go between as needed.

Their league and championship team must have changed a fair bit whether that's minors coming in or first team players coming down. Surely the squad that finished middle of 2b didn't suddenly beat the 2b winners (who hammered them twice) and then a team that came 3rd in 2a and the team who won 2a?

Either way, they've a fair chance of making an intermediate and senior final, have 3 starters on the all ireland winning team and a few more panelists, 2 all star nominations and the likely footballer of the year.

Something seriously being done right down there, must be something special in the buckfast these days! ;)

armaghniac

Quote from: Armagh18 on September 25, 2024, 10:52:55 PMSomething seriously being done right down there, must be something special in the buckfast these days! ;)

Clann Eireann have done admirable work in the last 15-20 years.
MAGA Make Armagh Great Again

Ball Hopper

Kerry at the semi-final stage 12/13 Oct.

Dr. Crokes v St. Brendan's

Dingle v East Kerry.

For the Munster Club Championship, Kerry's entrant will be Dingle if Dingle win the County Championship, otherwise it will be Dr. Crokes.

St. Brendan's team can be best described as Austin Stacks backs and Kerins O'Rahilly's forwards, with one of each midfield (Joe O'Connor and David Moran).

Blowitupref

From the Irish Examiner

Due to player welfare concerns, and the threat of burnout, it has been decided that most members of the Kerry senior football squad will not line out in district board championships over the next two months.
With the split-season leading to elite players being constantly in action, a break from competitive fare is now on the agenda.

Kerry is an unusual case in having three different championships taking place after the conclusion of the inter-county campaign — club championships, county championship, and district championships.
At Tuesday night's Kerry County Board meeting, Beaufort delegate Ken O'Sullivan asked chairman Patrick O'Sullivan if the executive was aware of an instruction to county senior players not to make themselves available for the forthcoming District Board Championships and if the executive is aware of the request, then what is their opinion.
The chairman confirmed that the executive had been given the heads-up by a number of clubs that a letter was circulating.

"Basically it is not county board policy to prevent any player for turning out to play for his club," O'Sullivan said. "I spoke to Jack O'Connor about it and he assured me that he had not issued any instructions to Kerry players not to play for their clubs. I spoke to the Kerry captain and he told me that, yes they were hoping (the players) that they would not be asked to line out this year in the local championships.
"Because of the length of the season in Kerry, burnout fears that lead to injuries and the fact that the players felt they needed some down time before they return to collective training again with Kerry on December 7th. This is also in line with "zero contact" month sought by the player's body for November.
"The danger of burnout for the intercounty player and dual player was well flagged before any decision was taken on the introduction of the split season. The split season was supported by this county and this is one of the downsides of it."
He added: "It would be wrong in my view to force players to play in the district board championships when they need a break. The request by the players should be respected. Their service and commitment to the county and to their clubs from underage to senior level has surely earned them the right to have their request to be supported and understood.
O'Sullivan also responded to a similar query from Mid Kerry secretary Mike Sayers, who said the stance taken by Kerry players was causing disquiet around the county.

"Players' welfare must come first," the chairman added. "We have three stages for a player during the season — 1, full break, 2 pre-season and 3, season."
He emphasised that just 12 clubs would be affected, eight senior and that only the Mid Kerry and East Kerry competitions would be affected. He also reminded that delegates that Dingle or Dr Crokes players will be involved in Munster Club competitions in November anyway, while Austin Stacks or Laune Rangers players will also be in provincial action.
The Chairman repeated it was not board policy to prevent players playing, rather a request from the players themselves to have their welfare considered.
"Some of the top players carry the heaviest load in regards to game time. No player is prevented from playing, all players in the squad face the same demands as regards training and playing.
"In 2024, Kerry panel members and the extended squad played 18 competitive games plus had 100 training sessions and all players play AvB games on the weekends that they are not playing competitive games. Some of these games are as demanding as any club championship games.

"I want to emphasise again that no player is being prevented from playing with anyone; it's the player's decision. If he feels that he is tired or wants a break for his mental health reasons, then the Kerry players want to ensure that he is not left isolated or subjected to undue pressure by a coach or manager to play when he clearly wants a break at this time of the year.
"No players from any other county are asked to play three championships once they exit the All-Ireland, whether it's early or late, and to the credit of our players turn out for their clubs in the championships when fresh, fit and free of injury.

"I think on the flip side if a player is feeling burnout and is feeling that either physically or mentally that he needs a break, then on welfare grounds he should be allowed this considering he has to play in three championships."
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

Ciarrai_thuaidh

While the pulling of county players from district board championships will cause some disquiet I think in a lot of cases it's badly needed. The Cliffords for one thing have been flogged these past 2 years. Not helped by Jack calling on them for Rd2 of the league in Clones last year either when they were meant to have half the league off.

I think/hope that it will be players who are still in County Senior Championship that get pulled or "decide" not to play. But it will cause trouble in certain cases as the district championships have big tradition and interest in them.
"Better to die on your feet,than live on your knees"...

armaghniac

Perhaps there should be a rule that county players not play in at least one of the the district championships or in the
amalgamated teams in the county championships. This would give others a chance and would reduce burnout
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