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burdizzo

Quote from: clonadmad on August 15, 2024, 11:05:04 PM
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Quote from: whitey on August 15, 2024, 01:05:41 PMThe government are not enforcing our own immigration laws at a cost of hundreds of millions of Euro to the Irish citizens -(maybe over a Billion at this point)

It doesn't kick people out who have been through every appeal known to mankind who are criminals

We have a government minister who actively encouraged people to come without consideration to availability of services

We had the most overly generous benefits to Ukrainians in the entire EU-(ever year the term "Treasure Island"?) which caused a massive influx-above and beyond what we could handle or afford

When it comes to immigration there are factors of push (what's happening in other countries) and pull (what we're doing to encourage people to come)

The entire thing is a bloody shambles of our own making

Why do You use words such as "we" and "our own making"

When the reality is you are a migrant in another country

You contribute nothing to the Republic of Ireland


I'm a dual citizen who's grandfather fought in the War of Independence

I have as much right to share my opinions on what's happening in Ireland as you do

And I'm actually thinking of bilocating during retirement

The bang of entitlement off you

Your grandfather is long gone and so is his opinion

I live here,employ people,pay tax and vote

You don't

You are a migrant in another country

And stay in the states for your retirement

We don't want you freeloading and clogging our healthcare system which you didn't contribute a cent towards during your working life.




Yeah, and what's more, we want to keep bringing in the world of entitled migrant freeloaders who have no ancestral link to the country to clog up our healthcare system, towards which they didn't contribute a single cent.

Yes all those freeloading migrants in the healthcare system with their nursing and medical degrees.....


Oh yeah, all our future doctors and engineers in the direct provision centres with their discount degrees.

It must kill you to see people coming into this country with all the disadvantages any foreign worker has in terms of not knowing the country,having no support networks

And still passing you by

All the welfare, hotels, medical cards, free legal aid for endless appeals... The prize for getting here illegally! You gotta love it!

And yet they will all pass you by

And you living here all your life

It must kill ya

The more the merrier. They'll piss on you, too - don't worry. But you'll probably lap it up!

Milltown Row2

The state of these people!

It must be tough squinting out the blinds every night
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

Rossfan

The valley of the squinting fascists?
Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.

tonto1888

Quote from: whitey on August 15, 2024, 10:08:20 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on August 15, 2024, 09:03:18 PM
Quote from: whitey on August 15, 2024, 02:00:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 15, 2024, 01:44:49 PMHow long has these two parties been in power in Ireland? But you are blaming SF? I'm not exactly a SF supporter but feck me lad, that's a serious stretch, as far as I'm aware the opposition party is not in government.

As for not bashing migrants you don't have to bash them physically, as the that 53 year mother/grandmother in England is wondering now, she shouldn't have had that extra glass of vino and went on a rant on Facebook.

Plenty time to reflect on her words, not actions.

You've (and others) tried to tar everyone from these places as murders/rapists and because their way of life is different (no shit Sherlock) its wrong to bring them in. Vetted or unvetted that's down to those who look after that side of things.

As for people flying in from other countries, then its down to ensuring details are correct on entry to airport that they are leaving from and to retain peoples documents before they fly, when they land, hand over to customs to process. That would automatically shut down that argument on no passports



100% false

All I've ever asked for is that the law be enforced

I also explained that people have justified anger towards asylum fraudsters and fake refugees.

Big difference

Why are you still making excuses for people arriving without documents? They were doing it because Ireland was seen as a soft touch.

When we started enforcing the law the numbers miracously collapsed-ever wonder why?

On top of that we had one of the shortest (if not the shortest) list of "safe countries" in the entire EU....why aren't you furious about that?

All this lack of enforcement is taking resources away from those in real need and creating a lot of ill will towards genuine asylum seekers and refugees

If you genuinely care about those people you claim to care about, you should be absolutely livid....instead all I see is a bunch of self congratulatory virtue signaling and woke tripe


More people arrive into the uk without docs than Ireland. Many many more. How do they know who are so called asylum fraudsters and fake refugees?

I don't really understand your question

I assume there is a thorough vetting process but if Ireland is anything to go by I have my doubts it's very thorough

Interesting you use the term "so called" ....I assume that by that you are implying that everyone who attempts to claim asylum/refugee status is legit-which 100% is not the case

One could make the case that the existence of lists of "safe countries" is an acknowledgment by a country that fraud is occurring

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-expands-list-of-safe-countries-allowing-more-removals

It's really not that hard to understand. You said 'asylum fraudsters and fake refugees' which is why I said so called - again not hard to understand. How do you know they are fraudsters or fake as at this stage their asylum claim has not been processed?

tonto1888

In my experience people who boast about how much and how hard they work are usually those who do neither

whitey

Quote from: tonto1888 on August 16, 2024, 08:08:02 AM
Quote from: whitey on August 15, 2024, 10:08:20 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on August 15, 2024, 09:03:18 PM
Quote from: whitey on August 15, 2024, 02:00:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 15, 2024, 01:44:49 PMHow long has these two parties been in power in Ireland? But you are blaming SF? I'm not exactly a SF supporter but feck me lad, that's a serious stretch, as far as I'm aware the opposition party is not in government.

As for not bashing migrants you don't have to bash them physically, as the that 53 year mother/grandmother in England is wondering now, she shouldn't have had that extra glass of vino and went on a rant on Facebook.

Plenty time to reflect on her words, not actions.

You've (and others) tried to tar everyone from these places as murders/rapists and because their way of life is different (no shit Sherlock) its wrong to bring them in. Vetted or unvetted that's down to those who look after that side of things.

As for people flying in from other countries, then its down to ensuring details are correct on entry to airport that they are leaving from and to retain peoples documents before they fly, when they land, hand over to customs to process. That would automatically shut down that argument on no passports



100% false

All I've ever asked for is that the law be enforced

I also explained that people have justified anger towards asylum fraudsters and fake refugees.

Big difference

Why are you still making excuses for people arriving without documents? They were doing it because Ireland was seen as a soft touch.

When we started enforcing the law the numbers miracously collapsed-ever wonder why?

On top of that we had one of the shortest (if not the shortest) list of "safe countries" in the entire EU....why aren't you furious about that?

All this lack of enforcement is taking resources away from those in real need and creating a lot of ill will towards genuine asylum seekers and refugees

If you genuinely care about those people you claim to care about, you should be absolutely livid....instead all I see is a bunch of self congratulatory virtue signaling and woke tripe


More people arrive into the uk without docs than Ireland. Many many more. How do they know who are so called asylum fraudsters and fake refugees?

I don't really understand your question

I assume there is a thorough vetting process but if Ireland is anything to go by I have my doubts it's very thorough

Interesting you use the term "so called" ....I assume that by that you are implying that everyone who attempts to claim asylum/refugee status is legit-which 100% is not the case

One could make the case that the existence of lists of "safe countries" is an acknowledgment by a country that fraud is occurring

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-expands-list-of-safe-countries-allowing-more-removals

It's really not that hard to understand. You said 'asylum fraudsters and fake refugees' which is why I said so called - again not hard to understand. How do you know they are fraudsters or fake as at this stage their asylum claim has not been processed?

Its really not that hard to understand

If 60% of applications are denied.......then 60% are frauds/fakes

https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/social-affairs/2024/02/15/nearly-600-asylum-seekers-refused-refugee-status-in-january/

Instead of directing your ire towards me for pointing this out, you should be absolutely furious at theses fraudsters for taking resources from those genuinely in need........unless of course you are an advocate of open borders which i think you are

tonto1888

Quote from: whitey on August 16, 2024, 09:06:21 AM
Quote from: tonto1888 on August 16, 2024, 08:08:02 AM
Quote from: whitey on August 15, 2024, 10:08:20 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on August 15, 2024, 09:03:18 PM
Quote from: whitey on August 15, 2024, 02:00:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 15, 2024, 01:44:49 PMHow long has these two parties been in power in Ireland? But you are blaming SF? I'm not exactly a SF supporter but feck me lad, that's a serious stretch, as far as I'm aware the opposition party is not in government.

As for not bashing migrants you don't have to bash them physically, as the that 53 year mother/grandmother in England is wondering now, she shouldn't have had that extra glass of vino and went on a rant on Facebook.

Plenty time to reflect on her words, not actions.

You've (and others) tried to tar everyone from these places as murders/rapists and because their way of life is different (no shit Sherlock) its wrong to bring them in. Vetted or unvetted that's down to those who look after that side of things.

As for people flying in from other countries, then its down to ensuring details are correct on entry to airport that they are leaving from and to retain peoples documents before they fly, when they land, hand over to customs to process. That would automatically shut down that argument on no passports



100% false

All I've ever asked for is that the law be enforced

I also explained that people have justified anger towards asylum fraudsters and fake refugees.

Big difference

Why are you still making excuses for people arriving without documents? They were doing it because Ireland was seen as a soft touch.

When we started enforcing the law the numbers miracously collapsed-ever wonder why?

On top of that we had one of the shortest (if not the shortest) list of "safe countries" in the entire EU....why aren't you furious about that?

All this lack of enforcement is taking resources away from those in real need and creating a lot of ill will towards genuine asylum seekers and refugees

If you genuinely care about those people you claim to care about, you should be absolutely livid....instead all I see is a bunch of self congratulatory virtue signaling and woke tripe


More people arrive into the uk without docs than Ireland. Many many more. How do they know who are so called asylum fraudsters and fake refugees?

I don't really understand your question

I assume there is a thorough vetting process but if Ireland is anything to go by I have my doubts it's very thorough

Interesting you use the term "so called" ....I assume that by that you are implying that everyone who attempts to claim asylum/refugee status is legit-which 100% is not the case

One could make the case that the existence of lists of "safe countries" is an acknowledgment by a country that fraud is occurring

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-expands-list-of-safe-countries-allowing-more-removals

It's really not that hard to understand. You said 'asylum fraudsters and fake refugees' which is why I said so called - again not hard to understand. How do you know they are fraudsters or fake as at this stage their asylum claim has not been processed?

Its really not that hard to understand

If 60% of applications are denied.......then 60% are frauds/fakes

https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/social-affairs/2024/02/15/nearly-600-asylum-seekers-refused-refugee-status-in-january/

Instead of directing your ire towards me for pointing this out, you should be absolutely furious at theses fraudsters for taking resources from those genuinely in need........unless of course you are an advocate of open borders which i think you are

LOL. I am not directing any ire at you, I was asking a question and you have shown, with your answer, that you are prejudging asylum seekers. Cheers for that

Rossfan

The oul' far right mantra -
All black/brown/muslims are criminals or spongers.
Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.

whitey

Quote from: tonto1888 on August 16, 2024, 09:39:40 AM
Quote from: whitey on August 16, 2024, 09:06:21 AM
Quote from: tonto1888 on August 16, 2024, 08:08:02 AM
Quote from: whitey on August 15, 2024, 10:08:20 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on August 15, 2024, 09:03:18 PM
Quote from: whitey on August 15, 2024, 02:00:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 15, 2024, 01:44:49 PMHow long has these two parties been in power in Ireland? But you are blaming SF? I'm not exactly a SF supporter but feck me lad, that's a serious stretch, as far as I'm aware the opposition party is not in government.

As for not bashing migrants you don't have to bash them physically, as the that 53 year mother/grandmother in England is wondering now, she shouldn't have had that extra glass of vino and went on a rant on Facebook.

Plenty time to reflect on her words, not actions.

You've (and others) tried to tar everyone from these places as murders/rapists and because their way of life is different (no shit Sherlock) its wrong to bring them in. Vetted or unvetted that's down to those who look after that side of things.

As for people flying in from other countries, then its down to ensuring details are correct on entry to airport that they are leaving from and to retain peoples documents before they fly, when they land, hand over to customs to process. That would automatically shut down that argument on no passports



100% false

All I've ever asked for is that the law be enforced

I also explained that people have justified anger towards asylum fraudsters and fake refugees.

Big difference

Why are you still making excuses for people arriving without documents? They were doing it because Ireland was seen as a soft touch.

When we started enforcing the law the numbers miracously collapsed-ever wonder why?

On top of that we had one of the shortest (if not the shortest) list of "safe countries" in the entire EU....why aren't you furious about that?

All this lack of enforcement is taking resources away from those in real need and creating a lot of ill will towards genuine asylum seekers and refugees

If you genuinely care about those people you claim to care about, you should be absolutely livid....instead all I see is a bunch of self congratulatory virtue signaling and woke tripe


More people arrive into the uk without docs than Ireland. Many many more. How do they know who are so called asylum fraudsters and fake refugees?

I don't really understand your question

I assume there is a thorough vetting process but if Ireland is anything to go by I have my doubts it's very thorough

Interesting you use the term "so called" ....I assume that by that you are implying that everyone who attempts to claim asylum/refugee status is legit-which 100% is not the case

One could make the case that the existence of lists of "safe countries" is an acknowledgment by a country that fraud is occurring

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-expands-list-of-safe-countries-allowing-more-removals

It's really not that hard to understand. You said 'asylum fraudsters and fake refugees' which is why I said so called - again not hard to understand. How do you know they are fraudsters or fake as at this stage their asylum claim has not been processed?

Its really not that hard to understand

If 60% of applications are denied.......then 60% are frauds/fakes

https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/social-affairs/2024/02/15/nearly-600-asylum-seekers-refused-refugee-status-in-january/

Instead of directing your ire towards me for pointing this out, you should be absolutely furious at theses fraudsters for taking resources from those genuinely in need........unless of course you are an advocate of open borders which i think you are

LOL. I am not directing any ire at you, I was asking a question and you have shown, with your answer, that you are prejudging asylum seekers. Cheers for that

So now people can't have opinions when
the actual data proves that the majority of asylum applicants are frauds

Interesting

You should be absolutely furious that the government have let these fraudsters take valuable resources away from genuine asylum seekers


tonto1888

Quote from: whitey on August 16, 2024, 11:47:17 AM
Quote from: tonto1888 on August 16, 2024, 09:39:40 AM
Quote from: whitey on August 16, 2024, 09:06:21 AM
Quote from: tonto1888 on August 16, 2024, 08:08:02 AM
Quote from: whitey on August 15, 2024, 10:08:20 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on August 15, 2024, 09:03:18 PM
Quote from: whitey on August 15, 2024, 02:00:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 15, 2024, 01:44:49 PMHow long has these two parties been in power in Ireland? But you are blaming SF? I'm not exactly a SF supporter but feck me lad, that's a serious stretch, as far as I'm aware the opposition party is not in government.

As for not bashing migrants you don't have to bash them physically, as the that 53 year mother/grandmother in England is wondering now, she shouldn't have had that extra glass of vino and went on a rant on Facebook.

Plenty time to reflect on her words, not actions.

You've (and others) tried to tar everyone from these places as murders/rapists and because their way of life is different (no shit Sherlock) its wrong to bring them in. Vetted or unvetted that's down to those who look after that side of things.

As for people flying in from other countries, then its down to ensuring details are correct on entry to airport that they are leaving from and to retain peoples documents before they fly, when they land, hand over to customs to process. That would automatically shut down that argument on no passports



100% false

All I've ever asked for is that the law be enforced

I also explained that people have justified anger towards asylum fraudsters and fake refugees.

Big difference

Why are you still making excuses for people arriving without documents? They were doing it because Ireland was seen as a soft touch.

When we started enforcing the law the numbers miracously collapsed-ever wonder why?

On top of that we had one of the shortest (if not the shortest) list of "safe countries" in the entire EU....why aren't you furious about that?

All this lack of enforcement is taking resources away from those in real need and creating a lot of ill will towards genuine asylum seekers and refugees

If you genuinely care about those people you claim to care about, you should be absolutely livid....instead all I see is a bunch of self congratulatory virtue signaling and woke tripe


More people arrive into the uk without docs than Ireland. Many many more. How do they know who are so called asylum fraudsters and fake refugees?

I don't really understand your question

I assume there is a thorough vetting process but if Ireland is anything to go by I have my doubts it's very thorough

Interesting you use the term "so called" ....I assume that by that you are implying that everyone who attempts to claim asylum/refugee status is legit-which 100% is not the case

One could make the case that the existence of lists of "safe countries" is an acknowledgment by a country that fraud is occurring

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-expands-list-of-safe-countries-allowing-more-removals

It's really not that hard to understand. You said 'asylum fraudsters and fake refugees' which is why I said so called - again not hard to understand. How do you know they are fraudsters or fake as at this stage their asylum claim has not been processed?

Its really not that hard to understand

If 60% of applications are denied.......then 60% are frauds/fakes

https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/social-affairs/2024/02/15/nearly-600-asylum-seekers-refused-refugee-status-in-january/

Instead of directing your ire towards me for pointing this out, you should be absolutely furious at theses fraudsters for taking resources from those genuinely in need........unless of course you are an advocate of open borders which i think you are

LOL. I am not directing any ire at you, I was asking a question and you have shown, with your answer, that you are prejudging asylum seekers. Cheers for that

So now people can't have opinions when
the actual data proves that the majority of asylum applicants are frauds

Interesting

You should be absolutely furious that the government have let these fraudsters take valuable resources away from genuine asylum seekers



youre pre judging people. Dress it up whatever way you want but that is what you are doing

Armagh18

Quote from: Truthsayer on August 16, 2024, 12:43:23 PM
Quote from: EmeraldOpal on August 16, 2024, 12:26:35 PMHave we just seen a pro hamas terror attack in galway bet sinn fein and pbp go quiet
We're in the twilight zone now... I can't see why Hamas would attack Galway... maybe you're being ironic?
However our country was attacked and taken over by imperialists similar to Israel and we fought back. And guess what... in 1986 Willie McCrea of the DUP proposed that Carrickmore, Crossmaglen, Dundalk and Drogheda be carpet bombed... as Israel are doing in GAZA now.. true
https://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/state-papers-dup-mp-william-mccrea-wanted-air-strikes-launched-on-the-republic-in-the-1980s/30867020.html
Eire-90 is back... wouldn't even bother lol

burdizzo

Quote from: Armagh18 on August 16, 2024, 12:46:49 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on August 16, 2024, 12:43:23 PM
Quote from: EmeraldOpal on August 16, 2024, 12:26:35 PMHave we just seen a pro hamas terror attack in galway bet sinn fein and pbp go quiet
We're in the twilight zone now... I can't see why Hamas would attack Galway... maybe you're being ironic?
However our country was attacked and taken over by imperialists similar to Israel and we fought back. And guess what... in 1986 Willie McCrea of the DUP proposed that Carrickmore, Crossmaglen, Dundalk and Drogheda be carpet bombed... as Israel are doing in GAZA now.. true
https://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/state-papers-dup-mp-william-mccrea-wanted-air-strikes-launched-on-the-republic-in-the-1980s/30867020.html
Eire-90 is back... wouldn't even bother lol

My thoughts exactly!

RedHand88

Quote from: EmeraldOpal on August 16, 2024, 12:26:35 PMHave we just seen a pro hamas terror attack in galway bet sinn fein and pbp go quiet

If you'd bothered yer hole to check you'd see the Sinn Fein TD for the area is already all over it.


Saffrongael

Let no-one say the best hurlers belong to the past. They are with us now, and better yet to come