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Bogman

Quote from: Armagh18 on June 11, 2024, 10:28:02 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on June 11, 2024, 10:26:31 PMLooks like ETH will be staying on. David Orstein reporting.
Great news.
The rest of Premier League agrees with you.
Tomorrow is not guaranteed

lurganblue

A little surprised by this. Perhaps you can argue that he has had a bad hand dealt with the injury hit defence and he has still won the FA Cup. But then you consider the real lack of any discernible style of play, his management of players like Sancho, Rashford etc, and his big money spend on Anthony and I just dont see how the board think he's still the right man. Perhaps the options were limited.  I'm sure they put the feelers out.   

nrico2006

Quote from: snoopdog on June 12, 2024, 08:29:10 AMIt's hard to justify sacking a man who won more than anyother manager in the PL this past 2 seasons. Yes the league last season was a disaster, I'm just worried that rathcliffe is waiting on Southgate for next summer.

Won more than any other manager?
'To the extreme I rock a mic like a vandal, light up a stage and wax a chump like a candle.'

Armagh18

Quote from: Turf on June 12, 2024, 09:51:17 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 11, 2024, 10:28:02 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on June 11, 2024, 10:26:31 PMLooks like ETH will be staying on. David Orstein reporting.
Great news.
The rest of Premier League agrees with you.
Was waiting on that one ;)

Look-Up!

I don't think he's the man but I don't see too many other ready options. He won the cup and had an excuse list as long as your arm for the rest of the season, which they've bought and given him a stay. But it will be his last stay you'd imagine.
 What he'll be let do now in the transfer window will be telling. Of course he could turn it all around and become a legend, but if I had to put the house on it, he'll do well to see out the season.

Maroon Manc

Quote from: lurganblue on June 12, 2024, 10:01:53 AMA little surprised by this. Perhaps you can argue that he has had a bad hand dealt with the injury hit defence and he has still won the FA Cup. But then you consider the real lack of any discernible style of play, his management of players like Sancho, Rashford etc, and his big money spend on Anthony and I just dont see how the board think he's still the right man. Perhaps the options were limited.  I'm sure they put the feelers out. 

Sancho is a disgrace, club didn't do their due diligence on his mentality. You won't find a match going fan happy to have him back. As for Rashford he's got a lot going on in the background affecting his play, hope he can sort that out over the summer which is not ETH's fault!

As for Antony he should have pulled the plug on the deal but when you're desperate and you'd idiots running the club you can see why he didn't! Murtough, Arnold & Co are more too blame, they were told by the scouting department his value was no more then £30m!

I've no idea if he's the right man yet but given the alternatives like the majority of fans I wanted him to stay.


AustinPowers

Quote from: Look-Up! on June 12, 2024, 10:20:01 AMI don't think he's the man but I don't see too many other ready options. He won the cup and had an excuse list as long as your arm for the rest of the season, which they've bought and given him a stay. But it will be his last stay you'd imagine.
 What he'll be let do now in the transfer window will be telling. Of course he could turn it all around and become a legend, but if I had to put the house on it, he'll do well to see out the season.

I'd say he'll do well  to see the new year

Armagh18

Quote from: Maroon Manc on June 12, 2024, 10:21:13 AM
Quote from: lurganblue on June 12, 2024, 10:01:53 AMA little surprised by this. Perhaps you can argue that he has had a bad hand dealt with the injury hit defence and he has still won the FA Cup. But then you consider the real lack of any discernible style of play, his management of players like Sancho, Rashford etc, and his big money spend on Anthony and I just dont see how the board think he's still the right man. Perhaps the options were limited.  I'm sure they put the feelers out. 

Sancho is a disgrace, club didn't do their due diligence on his mentality. You won't find a match going fan happy to have him back. As for Rashford he's got a lot going on in the background affecting his play, hope he can sort that out over the summer which is not ETH's fault!

As for Antony he should have pulled the plug on the deal but when you're desperate and you'd idiots running the club you can see why he didn't! Murtough, Arnold & Co are more too blame, they were told by the scouting department his value was no more then £30m!

I've no idea if he's the right man yet but given the alternatives like the majority of fans I wanted him to stay.


His head is up his hole similar to Sancho. If Ferguson or Roy Keane were still about they'd have got the finger out or been long gone.

Spot on with the last paragraph, don't rate Southgate or Poch, not sure Tuchel is the right man either for a rebuild.

Cunny Funt

Quote from: NAG1 on June 12, 2024, 08:36:29 AMThe chat I have read and seen is that Southgate is seen as a viable candidate once he is away from England. So unless ETH has a seriously improved start to the league he will be under pressure instantly.



INEOS and the Glazers are one of the same if he was appointed at any stage.


Quote from: AustinPowers on June 12, 2024, 10:30:28 AMI'd say he'll do well  to see the new year
You said the same when he first arrived.

AustinPowers

Quote from: Cunny Funt on June 12, 2024, 02:05:40 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 12, 2024, 08:36:29 AMThe chat I have read and seen is that Southgate is seen as a viable candidate once he is away from England. So unless ETH has a seriously improved start to the league he will be under pressure instantly.



INEOS and the Glazers are one of the same if he was appointed at any stage.


Quote from: AustinPowers on June 12, 2024, 10:30:28 AMI'd say he'll do well  to see the new year
You said the same when he first arrived.

I probably did

But was his first  season any better than Poch at Chelsea?  I thought yhat first season  was  very overhyped.  And last season  was shambolic.

My only conclusion is, like John O Shea with Ireland , is that they put the feelers out  and nobody obviously wanted  the  job , so the board  are now "backing the manager ". In reality , they  had no other choice

PS.  I expect O Shea to  be named Ireland manager for the same reason

Cunny Funt

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Quote from: AustinPowers on June 12, 2024, 02:13:29 PMBut was his first  season any better than Poch at Chelsea? 
Yes would be the answer to that.

Poch with Chelsea this season 6th in the league 63 points, one cup final and managed to lose it against a injury hit Liverpool who was there for the taking

Ten Hag first season with United 3rd in the league 75 points, two cup finals losing one narrowly to City and winning the other one.


NAG1

Quote from: Cunny Funt on June 12, 2024, 02:44:01 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on June 12, 2024, 02:13:29 PMBut was his first  season any better than Poch at Chelsea? 
Yes would be the answer to that.

Poch with Chelsea this season 6th in the league 63 points, one cup final and manged to lose it against a injury hit Liverpool who was there for the taking

Ten Hag first season with United 3rd in the league 75 points, two cup finals losing one narrowly to City and winning the other one.

I would say you will see this summer how much they are going to back him or wait for the next one through the door.

The targets have apparently already been set for a CB, CMF and another CF, to get 3 top quality targets in each of these areas would have a massive affect on the team.

J70

According to the article in the Athletic today, they were close to sacking him after the Palace game and got as far as salary discussions with Tuchel and De Zerbi.

How can Ten Hag feel secure at all in this job? I know its part and parcel of the manager game, but the obvious fact is that if they had found someone they perceived to be better and more affordable, he'd be out. Or maybe that's a positive for him - there IS no better option out there!

NAG1

Quote from: J70 on June 12, 2024, 03:27:48 PMAccording to the article in the Athletic today, they were close to sacking him after the Palace game and got as far as salary discussions with Tuchel and De Zerbi.

How can Ten Hag feel secure at all in this job? I know its part and parcel of the manager game, but the obvious fact is that if they had found someone they perceived to be better and more affordable, he'd be out. Or maybe that's a positive for him - there IS no better option out there!

TBF they had to stop the hire and fie approach of the last few years for a period of some stability, it is just whether ETH can keep the wolves from the door, a big start to the season would be a huge help.

A poor start and he is in bother regardless.

An Watcher

Everyone will know from the first game how things will pan out.  If Onana and Antony play, they are fecked