NFL Division 1 2024

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RedHand88

Quote from: yellowcard on March 24, 2024, 05:52:38 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on March 24, 2024, 05:30:44 PMTyrone got tanked against Kerry down there in 2021 in a league game. Would read nothing into that today.

If it was in isolation then I'd agree with you but Tyrone are going nowhere this year and haven't been since they won the Covid AI title. You can't lose that many players and still remain competitive and they have done well to retain their division one status with practically a new team. They might come good in a few years time as they are still doing well at underage level but I expect that they will limp their way through the championship again and I'd be surprised if they make much of an impact.

The covid AI title?! Wasn't 2020 the covid all ireland title? WUM.

IronMike247

Quote from: RedHand88 on March 24, 2024, 06:02:01 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on March 24, 2024, 05:52:38 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on March 24, 2024, 05:30:44 PMTyrone got tanked against Kerry down there in 2021 in a league game. Would read nothing into that today.

If it was in isolation then I'd agree with you but Tyrone are going nowhere this year and haven't been since they won the Covid AI title. You can't lose that many players and still remain competitive and they have done well to retain their division one status with practically a new team. They might come good in a few years time as they are still doing well at underage level but I expect that they will limp their way through the championship again and I'd be surprised if they make much of an impact.

The covid AI title?! Wasn't 2020 the covid all ireland title? WUM.
They got it called off a couple of times due to "covid" and got a full squad back together did they not?

yellowcard

Quote from: RedHand88 on March 24, 2024, 06:02:01 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on March 24, 2024, 05:52:38 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on March 24, 2024, 05:30:44 PMTyrone got tanked against Kerry down there in 2021 in a league game. Would read nothing into that today.

If it was in isolation then I'd agree with you but Tyrone are going nowhere this year and haven't been since they won the Covid AI title. You can't lose that many players and still remain competitive and they have done well to retain their division one status with practically a new team. They might come good in a few years time as they are still doing well at underage level but I expect that they will limp their way through the championship again and I'd be surprised if they make much of an impact.

The covid AI title?! Wasn't 2020 the covid all ireland title? WUM.

Strictly speaking yes it was 2020 but it also applied to 2021 as they were both straight knock out championships. The Covid reference was also related more to the episode prior to the Kerry match.

I have seen nothing from Tyrone since then to suggest that they were not the most underwhelming champions in recent memory. I said that at the time and if they had backed that success up then I was prepared to be corrected. However just look at Tyrones results since then which have been mediocre and I'm not sure even Tyrone fans can argue any differently.   

Armagh18

Quote from: Wildweasel74 on March 24, 2024, 05:52:02 PMRead nothing into it, that always the forming line when a team hammered.  Tyrone aren't near to the level of Dublin. I read plenty into it.
Dublin are ahead of everyone at the minute,  that's probably obvious enough. Tyrone aren't as shite as that scoreline makes them look.

Captain Obvious

Quote from: yellowcard on March 24, 2024, 05:57:16 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on March 24, 2024, 05:49:09 PMDerry have a right good chance at winning the All Ireland this summer. Serious momentum from back to back Ulster titles and All Ireland semi final appearances and Glen winning the club top honour.  Were about 10% off last year and the appointment of Mickey Harte could prove a very good one.

Lets wait and see. I suspect that Dublin are still a bit ahead of them (and everybody else for that matter) particularly in the attacking department. Next week, despite it only being a League final, is a hugely significant game for Derry. If they can win that then it would be another big breakthrough for them and will give them the belief that they can compete to win Sam this year. 

Dublin playing too good too soon, they paced themselves last year and were in top shape for the All Ireland Quarter final.  Don't think the league final will count for a lot come championship time belief is already there for Derry.

yellowcard

Quote from: Captain Obvious on March 24, 2024, 06:14:35 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on March 24, 2024, 05:57:16 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on March 24, 2024, 05:49:09 PMDerry have a right good chance at winning the All Ireland this summer. Serious momentum from back to back Ulster titles and All Ireland semi final appearances and Glen winning the club top honour.  Were about 10% off last year and the appointment of Mickey Harte could prove a very good one.

Lets wait and see. I suspect that Dublin are still a bit ahead of them (and everybody else for that matter) particularly in the attacking department. Next week, despite it only being a League final, is a hugely significant game for Derry. If they can win that then it would be another big breakthrough for them and will give them the belief that they can compete to win Sam this year. 

Dublin playing too good too soon, they paced themselves last year and were in top shape for the All Ireland Quarter final.  Don't think the league final will count for a lot come championship time belief is already there for Derry.

I don't buy this pacing stuff. It was never a thing when Dublin were simultaneously hoovering up League and  AI titles for fun during their decade of dominance. They weren't producing their best to win those League titles but they didn't need to as they were just a good bit better than the opposition.

Dublin (along with Kerry) can afford the luxury of aiming to peak for the quarter final phase every year. So if you think that Dublin are going flat out at the minute then that is wishful thinking.   

JoG2

Quote from: Captain Obvious on March 24, 2024, 06:14:35 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on March 24, 2024, 05:57:16 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on March 24, 2024, 05:49:09 PMDerry have a right good chance at winning the All Ireland this summer. Serious momentum from back to back Ulster titles and All Ireland semi final appearances and Glen winning the club top honour.  Were about 10% off last year and the appointment of Mickey Harte could prove a very good one.

Lets wait and see. I suspect that Dublin are still a bit ahead of them (and everybody else for that matter) particularly in the attacking department. Next week, despite it only being a League final, is a hugely significant game for Derry. If they can win that then it would be another big breakthrough for them and will give them the belief that they can compete to win Sam this year. 

Dublin playing too good too soon, they paced themselves last year and were in top shape for the All Ireland Quarter final.  Don't think the league final will count for a lot come championship time belief is already there for Derry.

Ah here we go again... Too good too soon (insert green bokey emoji from WhatsApp) . Maybe, just maybe this is the level this version of Dublin play at. What happens when a few of the big hitters are back starting, will they regress??

From the Bunker

Why do Dublin get 5 out of 8 Home games in the League?

gallsman

Quote from: Armagh18 on March 24, 2024, 06:11:21 PMDublin are ahead of everyone at the minute,  that's probably obvious enough. Tyrone aren't as shite as that scoreline makes them look.

Absolutely, on both counts.

From the Bunker

#3654
Quote from: Armagh18 on March 24, 2024, 06:11:21 PMDublin are ahead of everyone at the minute,  that's probably obvious enough. Tyrone aren't as shite as that scoreline makes them look.

Dublin have been ahead of everyone for the last 7,358,400 minutes.

Cunny Funt

Quote from: Armagh18 on March 24, 2024, 06:11:21 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on March 24, 2024, 05:52:02 PMRead nothing into it, that always the forming line when a team hammered.  Tyrone aren't near to the level of Dublin. I read plenty into it.
Dublin are ahead of everyone at the minute,  that's probably obvious enough. Tyrone aren't as shite as that scoreline makes them look.


Didn't see the game today though in the recent past I've seen Tyrone get positive results against Dublin in the league. A trimming like today's 21-point demolition usual happens when the opposition drops the heads making it easy to clock up a big score against them.    Dublin five wins in a row after losing their two opening games. Before today they won by a margin 7,10,5,8 points I was not expecting them to clock a margin of victory like that until the leinster championship.

highorlow

Some achievement by Dublin, promoted from Division 2 and then follow up with a league final. I didn't see that coming and thought they'd be a team in transition for four or five years.
They get momentum, they go mad, here they go

omagh_gael

Was at the game today, no oneis going to touch the Dubs in this years AI race, imo.

Lamh Dhearg Alba

Quote from: Rois on March 24, 2024, 01:26:25 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on March 24, 2024, 12:54:51 PMMickey Harte absolutely wants to win it!
Agree - Tyrone won their first NFL in Mickey's first year in charge, 2002, which was proceeded by winning Sam the next year...

Mickey will want to win the league this year without doubt but the 2002 league was won by Art and Eugene. Mickey made a successful defence of it in his first year in 2003.

Bizarre to see people linking that grim Tyrone defeat today to winning the AI 3 years ago 😂. That team had been contending for years with 3 provincial titles, 1 AI final defeat and a number of semi-final appearances. Had a great summer and deserved their AI. Unfortunately never got back to those heights and now very much in transition, but still stayed in Division 1 with an awful lot of young players coming through. The concern is that even allowing for those new players they shouldn't be losing like that. Management have a bit of work to do to prove they are the right team to work with the talent coming through.

Rossfan

Goodbye Division 1.
If only games lasted 40 minutes...

Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.