Down Club Hurling & Football

wobbller · July 30, 2021, 05:59:38 PM

Quote from: terrifictommy on July 30, 2021, 05:52:05 PM
I couldn't remember last year! Is it knockout this year?

Backdoor

befair · July 30, 2021, 08:09:21 PM

U20 game on TG$ btw; close at half-time.

Mourne Red · July 30, 2021, 08:34:25 PM

Laverty has got all the match ups right.. Boys are throwing it away with poor shooting

befair · July 30, 2021, 08:57:16 PM

Down should have won that comfortably; much the better team in the 2nd half, but forwards continually panicking in front of goals.

Nanderson · July 30, 2021, 09:46:38 PM

Quote from: redandblackareback on July 28, 2021, 11:30:57 PM
A day in the life of Down GAA, first we have the announcement of a new 5 man panel to pick the next Down manager but everyone knows only one name on that 5 man list will make the final call. Then we have the news that planing permission has been passed for our much needed center of excellence.

But to finish the day off in true Down fashion we go and get one of the biggest drubbings we have ever taken in underage championship, what an utter farce. Look at the great men who were overlooked for this job, hard questions must now start being asked and answered about the selection process, how the likes of Carr, Linden, Walsh, Hughes, were overlooked for this role is confusing. One of the biggest questions though has to be about our games manager, what progress are we making or what progress have we made with him in charge of development for over a decade now?

Get the white smoke out. Laverty and his team have come knocking on the door

Sheedy · July 30, 2021, 09:55:27 PM

Good win, better team from half time on and should've won in normal time only for some shocking misses. Great to get some underage success, been long time coming.

Walter Cronc · July 30, 2021, 09:55:59 PM

How did no 13 not start? The only natural forward on that Down side. Great work rate across the pitch but seem to lack shooters !

Mourne Red · July 30, 2021, 10:03:55 PM

Andrew Gilmore or Peter McMullan man of the match for me, both sensational.. Gilmore been tearing up underage for years for St Johns good to see him get the pay off

snoopdog · July 30, 2021, 10:18:28 PM

Great win. Looked like they might throw it away. But very professional in et saw the game out. Delighted. Long time for Down. Roscommon next sat. I assume Breffni or clones? Enniskillen maybe forma bigger crowd.

Sheedy · July 30, 2021, 10:21:04 PM

O'Hare had good game and probably deserved man of match, gilmore was very good and surely has to start next time. 2 midfielders were decent and won a lot of ball. Charlie Smyth picked up a lot of balls, supported play and scored a few crucial frees. For forwards that are so highly thought of some of the shooting was criminal.

Blowitupref · July 30, 2021, 10:27:33 PM

Quote from: snoopdog on July 30, 2021, 10:18:28 PM
Great win. Looked like they might throw it away. But very professional in et saw the game out. Delighted. Long time for Down. Roscommon next sat. I assume Breffni or clones? Enniskillen maybe forma bigger crowd.

It's Breffni apparently.

Johnnysboys · July 30, 2021, 10:38:38 PM

Dundrum wise a proposal was brought forward by the then committee a few years ago about amalgamation with Kinlar and all football be moved over to the centre of excellence when built but was strongly opposed by the players. Don't know if Ballymartin or Stone would be keen on an amalgamation but Glassdrumman look to be struggling senior panel down until they get to u11s for numbers, could be bleak few years for them. Hopefully they can keep the ship afloat until they get numbers coming through
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Tell me this folks

Looking at other counties like Galway, Dublin, Armagh, Cork. Kerry, Monaghan, Mayo etc they allow clubs to have a team in the senior league and Junior league.. For example Corofin have a team that is playing in Senior. Intermediate and Junior leagues.. Nemo Rangers the same.. others like Crossmaglen and killeavy are in senior and junior league in Armagh.. I'm sure the likes of CPN, Kilcoo, Burren, Clonduff, Mayobridge could all field in division 4 and make it more competitive.. Surely the likes of Dundrum, Dromara, St Paul's etc would relish the chance of going to these clubs and showcasing their talent rather than the same old same old each year.. Teams in division 4 target who they will beat before a ball is kicked and know the 1 or 2 games that will be tough.. surely if there were 5,6,7 tough games per season the quality of player they have would improve - thus county representatives..

These teams can get promoted but only to division 3 not beyond.. If their seniors were to be relegated then they won't play each other in division 2.. but if they go another division their junior team has to go to division 4... name a top 20 players that are never allowed to play in juniors and if a junior player for kilcoo goin well in division 4 and plays for seniors after a couple of weeks - he cannot go back to junior again that year.. I think it could work if we had open minded people in certain clubs..

Thoughts???

Mourne Red · July 30, 2021, 11:05:44 PM

Quote from: Johnnysboys on July 30, 2021, 10:38:38 PM

Dundrum wise a proposal was brought forward by the then committee a few years ago about amalgamation with Kinlar and all football be moved over to the centre of excellence when built but was strongly opposed by the players. Don't know if Ballymartin or Stone would be keen on an amalgamation but Glassdrumman look to be struggling senior panel down until they get to u11s for numbers, could be bleak few years for them. Hopefully they can keep the ship afloat until they get numbers coming through

Tell me this folks

Looking at other counties like Galway, Dublin, Armagh, Cork. Kerry, Monaghan, Mayo etc they allow clubs to have a team in the senior league and Junior league.. For example Corofin have a team that is playing in Senior. Intermediate and Junior leagues.. Nemo Rangers the same.. others like Crossmaglen and killeavy are in senior and junior league in Armagh.. I'm sure the likes of CPN, Kilcoo, Burren, Clonduff, Mayobridge could all field in division 4 and make it more competitive.. Surely the likes of Dundrum, Dromara, St Paul's etc would relish the chance of going to these clubs and showcasing their talent rather than the same old same old each year.. Teams in division 4 target who they will beat before a ball is kicked and know the 1 or 2 games that will be tough.. surely if there were 5,6,7 tough games per season the quality of player they have would improve - thus county representatives..

These teams can get promoted but only to division 3 not beyond.. If their seniors were to be relegated then they won't play each other in division 2.. but if they go another division their junior team has to go to division 4... name a top 20 players that are never allowed to play in juniors and if a junior player for kilcoo goin well in division 4 and plays for seniors after a couple of weeks - he cannot go back to junior again that year.. I think it could work if we had open minded people in certain clubs..

Thoughts???
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Transferred from an Div 4 club due to moving out of the parish but they talked about restructuring leagues a few years ago and players in club I was in wanted that.. No offence too them but you learn nothing and don't improve beating Aghaderg, St Michaels, Mitchell's by 20 points. You've it right too Johnny games are targeted so you'd base trainings on playing Finn/St Paul's etc the stronger teams and that's how the league is done. Also going up to Kilcoo, Burren etc gives teams who've no chance of playing at those venues a taste of what it's like and bigger crowd to play in front off too..

But too my mind only thing stopping this would be senior managers want to keep everyone who is on their panel playing senior football, wouldn't lend them to the "2s". Other thing would be shortage of referees, don't think we have the capacity to put more games on a Friday night

Smurfy123 · July 30, 2021, 11:24:18 PM

What a win for Down tonight
Fair play to all involved
A great achievement

The division 4 teams voted against seconds teams entering division 4 3 years ago. That's why it never happened. The senior clubs wanted it

Mourne Rover · July 30, 2021, 11:51:16 PM

Quite a performance tonight from what is clearly the best underage team we have produced since the 2005 AI minor champions. They were a brilliantly organised side, with every player comfortable on the ball and confident in the system. Monaghan put in a massive effort in the most difficult of circumstances, but just a little more calmness by our forwards would have finished the contest comfortably in normal time. However, extra time was a clinical exercise with our ability to retain possession and use our pace hugely impressive. O'Hare was a well deserved man of the match, and his interview afterwards was also exceptional, but there were plenty of other fine performances and Gilmore coming off the bench was a game changer. While the AI semi against Roscommon is only a week away, we have a serious management unit and the squad will be well up for it.