Belfast rioting over removal of Union Jack

[Redhand Santa]

Frazer must be the most hypocritical person in Ireland. Champions himself as a victims campaigner on the one hand and on the other stands hand and hand with loyalist paramilitaries and says he can understand why there'd be trouble over the flag. The media could have some craic with him if they wanted to. He can't be wise in the head!

[T Fearon]

 Cliftonville (Fenian team from N.BElfast) supporters (On Sky tonight during match with Glentoran (East Belfast team) "Your flag your flag, wherever it may be,it's no longer in our City" to tune of Lord of the Dance!

[Denn Forever]

What will happen if the Flag decision is reversed? 

[imtommygunn]

Lurgan will riot...

I don't think it will be reversed however I think a lot of other council buildings will have their flag flying days increased from designated days to every day of the year. Craigavon look to be heading that way.

[brokencrossbar1]

If the decision is reversed or amended then it would be one of the most depressing situations in our troubled history, a clear indication that democracy only works one way.

[NAG1]

If the decision is reversed or amended then it would be one of the most depressing situations in our troubled history, a clear indication that democracy only works one way.

Democracy will only ever work one way in this part of the world, one 'half' of the population do not want to share power or to give equal rights or recognition of culture to the other. I cant see this changing any time soon so were are in a cycle of perpetual violence and unrest.

[Applesisapples]

Craigavon only went to designated days after equality advice from their solicitors, they are not renowned for unilaterally being inclusive.
Nolan this morning continued the BBC policy of recent days by giving Jim Wilson a platform and loads of air time to voice his anti equality anti nationalist agenda. Gerry Kelly's response such as it was was pathetic. Conal McDevitt hit the nail on the head though. They then proceeded to let a head case from the short Strand spout about the RUC incoherently...has the Beeb an agenda? Why do SF politicians not spell out that equality means and a shared future means respect for the divided indentity in NI. Unionists of all hues as Conal McDevitt says always give way to the lowest common bigoted denominator. And why does no Protestant Clergyman not challenge the right of these people to speak on behalf of a religion?

[fitzroyalty]

Lurgan will riot...

I don't think it will be reversed however I think a lot of other council buildings will have their flag flying days increased from designated days to every day of the year. Craigavon look to be heading that way.

Lurgan surprisingly doesn't seem interested. There was a 'protest' on 21st Dec and we were out for our Christmas do that evening, there were more of us (16/17) than there were Loyalist protesters.

Portadown's Unionist community on the other hand, has been collectively pissing itself over the flag. Craigavon Council has a disproportionate number of Unionist Councillors and a proud track record of backward thinking and is generally stuck in a time-warp of which the place is named after. So their motion to review flag policy is not at all surprising.

[Ulick]

If Craigavon does this, what odds on Derry, Newry etc hoisting the Tricolour? Nationalists are usually much too sensible for such infantile moves but such a dose of reality might be what these pricks need.

[ziggysego]

If Craigavon does this, what odds on Derry, Newry etc hoisting the Tricolour? Nationalists are usually much too sensible for such infantile moves but such a dose of reality might be what these pricks need.

Best thing to do is sit back and let these idiots dig themselves into a bigger hole for all the world to see.

[imtommygunn]

If Craigavon does this, what odds on Derry, Newry etc hoisting the Tricolour? Nationalists are usually much too sensible for such infantile moves but such a dose of reality might be what these pricks need.

Best thing to do is sit back and let these idiots dig themselves into a bigger hole for all the world to see.

Precisely though my worry would be that a lot of "republican" chumps will come out and undo all that if they come out and riote when Wullie visits. Very strong possibility too.

[armaghniac]

Frazer must be the most hypocritical person in Ireland.

All politics is hypocritical to some extent. But Unionism is entirely without any sense of shame about demanding things for themselves that they do not offer to others. They don't admit, even in principle, to any need for symmetry in dealings with people which is a prerequisite for democracy. So 55% of the voters in Craigavon can do what they like, but if 85% of the voters in Newry and Mourne did the opposite then this would be an "outrage".

Their basic problem is this census map.

[fitzroyalty]

So 55% of the voters in Craigavon can do what they like, but if 85% of the voters in Newry and Mourne did the opposite then this would be an "outrage".

*48% 

[Rois]

If Craigavon does this, what odds on Derry, Newry etc hoisting the Tricolour? Nationalists are usually much too sensible for such infantile moves but such a dose of reality might be what these pricks need.

I have a feeling that this would not be legally permitted as the tricolour doesn't have any legal status in the official state in which Newry, Derry, Strabane etc find themselves and would require planning permission.

If I'm right, it could be a blessing for nationalism/republicanism if any meatheads try to do it. 

[armaghniac]

I have a feeling that this would not be legally permitted as the tricolour doesn't have any legal status in the official state in which Newry, Derry, Strabane etc find themselves and would require planning permission.

Surely a flag does not require planning permission,  once the flagpole has such permission.
Are you suggesting that the fleg crowd should take a case that Belfast City Hall needs permission for a change of use!