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Counties who have published their teams so far.

Dubs changing up the keeper again.

Don't think the 2nd/3rd reds where reds imo

You won't be alone in your thinking.

Var is going completely ruin this world cup ridiculous decision. Then some eejit yank woman who no one heard of on itv says it's a read and violent conduct.

Meath footballer Ruairí Kinsella has suffered an ACL injury and is out for the year.  Happened a few days ago at training.

Same injury for Killian McGinnis of Dublin he was subbed off v Louth last weekend with that injury

Big loss for Meath that. 

Jordan Morris also a doubt too.

Very hard to see us win unless others step up their performance massively.

If Meath go out on Saturday will Brennan still have support?

After last year beating Dublin/Galway the championship has been very uninspiring to date.  Well beaten by Westmeath and couldn't beat a 14 man Cork team. 

There'll be questions to answer but I don't think we'll see a serious push against him. We got promoted to division 1 which we clearly put a lot of effort into. However we needed to find another level in the championship and it just hasn't materialised.

I think going out in the first round of Leinster really set us back. We naively thought we could build through the rounds of it when in reality we needed to be on fire from the start.

That being said reports from challenge games have always been positive if you can put much stock in them.

Given the injuries we'll need the lads to dig deep for the win. Jack O'Connor has to have a big game now, Lynch and Conlon might both start now. Costello has to be able to put in a 70+ minute performance - same for our whole midfield (except for Menton, who can go for at least 55mins).

Defence and kickouts are still our Achilles heel though. Haven't unearthed any serious talent there and Rafferty isn't quite hitting the heights of last year. There are questions being asked now about what Aaron Kernan is bringing to the table as a defensive coach.

Interesting that Aaron came in as defensive coach, when his better attributes playing were actually going forward. 

Defence seems to have been an issue as you say Rafferty seems to not have been at the heights of last year and the team seems very easy to score against. 

Whoever comes through this one should get great confidence and you wouldn't want them coming out of the hat in next round. 

[theyre going through the motions]

Ive been to all 3 games in Tailtean to date and theyre going through the motions. Sat win wasnt impressive either, longford were poor. Whole Down controlled the game the soft goals kept them ahead. Somme poor wides. Granted the beeeze was cross field. Laois beat them in the dead rubber league game in Newry so Down will need to up theyre game. Mooney should start his direct running tore through Longford.

Entirely understandable under the circumstances. Down are plainly above the Tailteann cup, and the players know it. Expect another comfortable victory on Saturday in what should be this squads last year in the tournament.

The game they needed to win to get into the AI series would suggest otherwise. 

Meath footballer Ruairí Kinsella has suffered an ACL injury and is out for the year.  Happened a few days ago at training.

Same injury for Killian McGinnis of Dublin he was subbed off v Louth last weekend with that injury

Big loss for Meath that. 

Jordan Morris also a doubt too.

Very hard to see us win unless others step up their performance massively.

If Meath go out on Saturday will Brennan still have support?

After last year beating Dublin/Galway the championship has been very uninspiring to date.  Well beaten by Westmeath and couldn't beat a 14 man Cork team. 

Meath footballer Ruairí Kinsella has suffered an ACL injury and is out for the year.  Happened a few days ago at training.

Same injury for Killian McGinnis of Dublin he was subbed off v Louth last weekend with that injury

Big loss for Meath that. 

Saturday June 13

Tailteann Cup Quarter-Finals

Offaly v Wexford, O'Connor Park, 1pm, GAA+

Antrim v Wicklow, Corrigan Park, 2pm

Laois v Down,O'Moore Park, 4pm, GAA+

Fermanagh v Sligo, Brewster Park, 5pm

The scheduling on GAA+ could have been looked at also, the Down Laois game will run into the Monaghan/Roscommon game and most neutrals will turn over at half time in Down game you would expect. Could the game not have been at 3.00pm?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cy828v7r5ydo

[A chara]

Email from the CCC on 3rd June. Clann na nGael senior team fielding 13 a side, and clubs just expected to go with it. Just another change to the league that has been forced on junior clubs without discussion or a vote, just like the division 3 split to 3 and 3A.

A few years back there was a proposal for Tyrone to be split into 4 even division of 12 teams. This went to a vote and clubs said no.
Then a year later they implement the division 3 split without any discussion or vote because who cares about junior football.

This year there was a proposal to alter the league points system, this was again discussed and voted down.
Now we have a 13 aside game forced onto junior clubs without discussion or a vote.

It seems that matters that effect Division 1 and 2 clubs are discussed and voted on, but matters which only effect junior clubs? Who cares, just change it and they can just accept it.


A chara

It has been made known to the CCC that at least one Club in Division 3A, due to low player numbers, may, going forward, find themselves in  a position  where they can only field at 13-a-side.

In order to facilitate the players available and to sustain the future of this Club, we ask that you all comply with the situation on match days and therefore also field at 13-a-side if the situation arises.

We will be making our Referees aware of the situation meaning everyone will be informed and there will be no objections accepted.

We appreciate your cooperation on this as it is important that we all do what we can for the better of all our Clubs going forward.

Is mise le meas

Mícheáilín Nic an Choiligh

Response from Tattyreagh club to said email.


A Chara
 
We refer to your email sent by the CCC to our club secretary last night  Wednesday 3rd June at 21.31pm, to advise us that an unnamed club in division 3A may only be able to field 13 players in future senior games and that you have without consultation to any other club in that league agreed that this is ok and must be accepted with a pre warning that no objections will be considered.
 
We reject this advice and register an immediate objection to challenge it and demand a hearing and response before any of this Friday nights planned fixtures take place. We also challenge the short notice provided in this matter i.e. less than 48 hours before the next official fixture.
 
We now have a panel of 30 plus players and a management team preparing for a double fixture weekend of games not knowing if it will be against a team fielding either 13 or 15 players. To our knowledge to date no senior adult team across any of the Tyrone leagues has ever been forced to agree to play a 13 aside game at senior level. Your email basically gives 48 hours' notice of this change and as any reasonable person would expect our coaches and players have not had the opportunity to prepare for this unprecedented scenario in even one training session. Your new dictate is both unfair and disrespectful to the players and managers of the teams that will be directly affected by it.
 
We also question the rules that will govern a 13-sided game e.g. will the normal 4 players back rule stand or given that there will be 4 less players on the pitch will this be changed, again our players and coaches have not been afforded any time to prepare for this new scenario.  We have asked our club referees, and they confirm that their pre-season training and courses did not cover any such scenario.
 
You are already aware that our club has been very critical of the changes forced upon us by splitting the old division 3 league into an 8-team division 3 and an 11-team division 3A. The 3A league has been set up to pander to the larger clubs and allow them to have a 3rd team with no requirement to enter a reserve team, none of the junior clubs were consulted properly about these changes and with the 2nd year underway it is clear that the new format is not working and needs to be revisited with all the junior clubs properly involved and consulted about what happens going forward.
 
This latest dictate around 13-sided games is the final straw and alongside virtually no reserve football is going to cause long term damage to small but viable clubs like our own. We have a panel of 30-37 senior players and good numbers of youth players filtering into this panel in the years ahead. It is our county boards responsibility to make sure that these young gaels are included in a format and league that will provide them with the opportunity to play football regularly throughout the season just like the players in Division 1,2&3.
 
It is worth pointing out to the CCC the reality of the situation on the ground, 37 different players played some part in our reserve and senior games last weekend against Castlederg however if we happen to be playing this unnamed club this Friday night only 13 of those players will start that game with only another 3 or 4 playing a role as used substitutes with at least 20 to 21 players getting no football. In addition to this our next 3 games are against teams that do not have a reserve team resulting in those 20 to 21 players not playing any part in any of 4 consecutive games. This is a bigger threat to our club's sustainability than any demographic issues and it is an issue man made by the Tyrone CCC and the changes they have forced on clubs by splitting the league to accommodate the minority.
 
We pay at least the same level of fees if indeed not more as clubs like Errigal Ciaran, Donaghmore, Cookstown and Omagh but we seem to be at the back of the queue when it comes to fair and equitable treatment and value for money. We have been in discussions with 4 other division 3A clubs as recently as last night and they are equally as unhappy with the current situation and we would ask that rather than just try and enforce this on clubs to their long term detriment a proper discussion involving all the junior clubs is initiated and a long term acceptable solution is found.
 
We hope that some line in some regulation that isn't quite clear is not used in any "dear john" response to ignore our genuine concerns because we are now at the stage that this matter needs a proper solution and the TCB challenged if they continue to ignore our justifiable concerns. If the status quo is maintained against our will, we must challenge the decision makers to both the Ulster Council and Croke Park and the wider GAA community using whatever other outlets are available to us, as your decisions to protect the minority are now directly harming other clubs long term future .
 
We are now in a situation where our young club gaels are clearly being discriminated against versus players in other clubs and going for multiple weeks without the opportunity to play games and this may result in them being lost to the GAA forever if a solution or change is not made. This format is a race to the bottom and must be reviewed again, with the clubs being affected by your decisions involved properly in a finding a workable and sustainable solution not just dictated to by a small internal county committee which includes some vested interests. We want answers about who is driving this agenda to understand if there are alternative objectives at play which may benefit bigger clubs in the long term. We are weary of being dictated to by committees led by people with little knowledge of how small clubs operate, the challenges they face and how important a role they play in their communities.
 
We provided the county with a chairman for 5 years who showed leadership and put all clubs not just the larger ones at the centre of the Tyrone GAA during his term. We now expect this current board to do the same and you will probably ascertain from this email that we have decided to coin a phrase "enough is enough"  and we are going to allocate some considerable time and effort highlighting these issues to all gaels both in Tyrone and outside Tyrone including penning a detailed letter to Jarlath Burns requesting a hearing with him to advise and discuss with him our issues and seek help from him on how we should go about trying to find a solution.
 
We are also exploring the idea of association with leagues in other counties in an attempt to get football for all our players, as at present the Tyrone county board is not meeting this need. We believe that this issue will gain considerable interest and momentum among the wider community both inside and outside our county and it needs to be highlighted if it is ignored anymore.
 
We have suggestions and solutions to all the above problems, but we need a forum organised by yourselves alongside a willingness to listen to bring these forward for consensus, agreement, and action.
 
We would appreciate a response before Friday night's game.
 
 
Regards
 
 
Secretary and Committee – Tattyreagh St Patrick Mens and Ladies football and camogie club.

This seems to be a bit of a shambles.

If Clan NaGael were struggling to field or this was going to be the case should this not have been assessed before the league started? 

When are opposition/referres notified if the game will be 13 or 15 a side. 

The integrity of the competition has gone if can decide if playing 13 or 15 a side when suits them.   

Without knowing the size of the area or the circumstances around loss of numbers, it is sad to see an area that has produced players of the calibre of Stephen O'Neill and Brian Dooher in this situation.

Any word on how Down are looking on the injury front for next weekend? McEvoy, Crimmins or Kerr back? Danny Magill must have had a set back? He was named as a reserve for the armagh game but nothing since then.

Id say those guys have gone back to the clubs, any point risking them for next year. Shoukd be looking at squad and new players.
If they play like they did in Offaly they couod be gone tomorrow night. Cant keep sleepwalking through games.

Down should be going all out to win the TC again so they are assured of playing in AI series next year. They will have a McKenna cup and league next year to find a few players.

Division 2 is a mindfield next year, by winning the TC Down have their destiny in own hands if play AI football, this year got caught short with an extremely difficult draw within Ulster and then having to rely on others to do them a favour which did not transpire as they would like.

Laverty needs to wrestle back the momentum they had after winning Division three and beating Donegal, if they fail to win TC looks like one step forward and two back. 

I don't see what sending some of their better players back to the clubs will achieve longer term. What does that say to the rest of the panel?  Magill is coming back after a serious injury, understand that his minutes would need managed. Sending him back to Burren for the rest of the year wouldn't be the right thing to do imo. 

Bringing a new style to an established style won't take two years to bed in, will it?

Also coming from a club that had players that were not as well known and lesser ego's will take time too

He's done a brilliant job and these years in the PL will defo make the transition better, was he first choice?

It's all very coincidental that he was leaving at the end of the year, after the season he had and then getting 'tapped' up by Liverpool 

There will be a big turnover of players for him to deal with I suspect, which will be difficult in it's self.  Alot of big personalities going out the door also so new leaders will need to be bought or established from within. 

The football should be more watchable, but the appointment is a risk given no experience of Europe and playing every three days.   

If the rumours are true he spoke with Ac Milan, Crystal Palace and Leverkusen in relation to their vacancies.   

Seeing a list that long is just another reminder that our festival of football has become a festival of greed, with football providing the window dressing.

I see FIFA has this week banned anyone from bringing water bottles into any stadium. They're citing player safety from missiles as their reason.

Saudi, Qatar, Russia, USA and FIFA, they're all in it together, determined to f**k everybody and everything in pursuit of another billion.

Hard to argue with that. The 16 extra teams and extra round dilutes the product and leads to saturation - that said, it's amazing for the likes of cape Verde and curacao to get their to the big stage!
Re the water situation, it's similar to most stadia to some degree and the same rationale is always applied. That said, I see more and more venues are now providing free refill facilities as part of their sustainability credentials. You'd hope (but suspect they don't) that venues have will have such facilities.

Makes you wonder how Barca fans where able to bring a Pigs head into the stadium to throw at Figo!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c2020rr6pggo

Mad money that Brighton are looking for someone with a year left on contract. 

[Frank unrealistic and don't think you'd want Frank after the Spurs fiasco. Maloney, Brown no experience.]

I am not sure there is a big pool of managerial prospects Celtic can entice - Internet top 10 Robbie Keane, Martin O'Neill, Craig Bellamy, Roberto Martínez, Oliver Glasner, Thomas Frank, Shaun Maloney, Kieran McKenna, Steve Clarke, Scott Brown.
Bellamy staying at Wales, McKenna Premier League to go at and Martinez World Cup all unavailable (unless Portugal balls up the World Cup completely). Glasner and Frank unrealistic and don't think you'd want Frank after the Spurs fiasco. Maloney, Brown no experience. Steve Clarke it is a resounding no from me but has arguably made the most of a limited Scotland team. That leaves us were we are Keane and O'Neill
I'd go with McKenna if it was a free choice seems to have commitment to a club and has achieved above or at the level you would expect at Ipswich.

If Celtic got Frank it would be an excellent appointment. Spurs is a complete mess of a club and he had an awful run of injuries with his better players.  He developed players at Brentford and sold them on for big profit and repeated this time and time again. Given the finances of the Scottish league the successful candidate would be expected to do the same. 

Frank wasn't the first good manager to not be successful at Spurs.  Unlikely to happen given what he was getting paid against what Celtic are likely to offer. 

It wasn't just Frank at Brentford, the club already had a whole set up to support him when he was promoted from within, the same set up that now supports a promoted Keith Andrews . At Spurs he didn't have that and was thrown into a mess of a club and with injured players. Probably would be the same story at Celtic seeing as the club is extreme dysfunction.

Very well run club for sure.