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#1
GAA Discussion / Re: GPA exceptionalism
October 08, 2026, 07:58:21 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on October 08, 2026, 07:42:40 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on October 08, 2026, 07:24:04 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on October 08, 2026, 07:16:59 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on October 08, 2026, 06:42:37 PMYou think two grand per player will improve the quality of Gaelic games?
Potentially. Same as any other grant to a sports person.
And Olympic hopeful being able to take 2 years off work to train full time is not the same as paying for a weekend break for a hurler.
You think an Olympic could take 2 years off on 8k?
What?
#2
GAA Discussion / Re: GPA exceptionalism
October 08, 2026, 07:24:04 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on October 08, 2026, 07:16:59 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on October 08, 2026, 06:42:37 PMYou think two grand per player will improve the quality of Gaelic games?
Potentially. Same as any other grant to a sports person.
And Olympic hopeful being able to take 2 years off work to train full time is not the same as paying for a weekend break for a hurler.
#3
GAA Discussion / Re: GPA exceptionalism
October 08, 2026, 07:14:20 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on October 08, 2026, 07:00:35 PMDeflecting from your original incorrect "cut" at the GAA, that it was getting money off the State and giving it to players rather than coaching.

I stand over that because it is true.
#4
GAA Discussion / Re: GPA exceptionalism
October 08, 2026, 06:42:37 PM
You think two grand per player will improve the quality of Gaelic games?
#5
GAA Discussion / Re: GPA exceptionalism
October 08, 2026, 05:52:15 PM
So GAA players shouldn't get paid but how dare you say it?

We all ignored your rant about soccer the first time. But it puts how huge 8m is into context
#6
GAA Discussion / Re: GPA exceptionalism
October 08, 2026, 03:13:56 PM
Quote from: In hiding on October 08, 2026, 02:54:44 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on October 08, 2026, 02:40:51 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on October 08, 2026, 12:32:53 PMIs it any different from the international carding scheme? That provides grants to international athletes to help with the athletes living allowance. There's no requirement for the athlete to be professional/ full time. It's a performance based grant.
There is no ban on them taking money though. Athletics isn't amateur.

But funding Olympic athletes is to have a stronger olympic teams. We win more medals now. Giving the Sligo hurling sub keeper €2k won't improve hurling. And the GAA money is from that fund.

Very arrogant stuff here. Should only the best Olympic athletes get funded then ?
That's how it works...

8m goes a long way in preparing Olympians. It does hee haw in terms of GAA standards.
#7
GAA Discussion / Re: GPA exceptionalism
October 08, 2026, 02:40:51 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on October 08, 2026, 12:32:53 PMIs it any different from the international carding scheme? That provides grants to international athletes to help with the athletes living allowance. There's no requirement for the athlete to be professional/ full time. It's a performance based grant.
There is no ban on them taking money though. Athletics isn't amateur.

But funding Olympic athletes is to have a stronger olympic teams. We win more medals now. Giving the Sligo hurling sub keeper €2k won't improve hurling. And the GAA money is from that fund.
#8
GAA Discussion / Re: GPA exceptionalism
October 08, 2026, 11:57:24 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on October 08, 2026, 11:37:15 AMSeanie's not arguing for anything of the sort.
He explained why the State is giving grants to inter County GAA players.

As usual your prejudices are blinding you.


And that explanation is arguing for semi professionalism.

If you think wanting to preserve the amateur ethos of the GAA is a prejudice, good for you
#9
GAA Discussion / Re: GPA exceptionalism
October 08, 2026, 11:21:39 AM
If we want to retain top players in Ireland offer them tax back. Works in rugby more than soccer.

Again, you are arguing for semi professionalism in the GAA. Not a tax payers problem.
#10
GAA Discussion / Re: GPA exceptionalism
October 08, 2026, 10:53:48 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on October 08, 2026, 10:38:30 AM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on October 08, 2026, 10:35:51 AMWhy? Professionals get paid. Amateurs don't.

If you want to argue for professionalism, or semi professionalism in the GAA, crack on. But it shouldn't be on the taxpayer.

Why do they deserve tax breaks though? GAA players inspire young people etc in exactly the same ways and arguably moreso as they are in every corner of the country.
Because they are professional. GAA players aren't.

Why do GAA players deserve taxpayer funded pay over amateurs in other sports?
#11
GAA Discussion / Re: GPA exceptionalism
October 08, 2026, 10:35:51 AM
Why? Professionals get paid. Amateurs don't.

If you want to argue for professionalism, or semi professionalism in the GAA, crack on. But it shouldn't be on the taxpayer.
#12
GAA Discussion / Re: GPA exceptionalism
October 07, 2026, 03:59:17 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on October 07, 2026, 02:33:23 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on October 07, 2026, 01:35:30 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on October 07, 2026, 12:41:15 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on October 06, 2026, 05:16:53 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on October 06, 2026, 05:12:25 PMIsn't that €8 specifically for the players?

Greyhound racing should be abolished!
Yes. But how the GAA split the 11 was their call.

I don't think that is true. The GAA has no involvement in the Grants/additional expenses scheme.

And soccer is getting €4m per annum for the sham that is LoI academies.
The GAA has no control over where it's grants go? Good one.

I don't know what point you are trying to make but this is a government scheme supposedly to recognise the contribution of elite amateur GAA players as they do not qualify for the significant tax breaks professional sports people get. The grants are for intercounty players male and female. The GAA has no say in how they are allocated. They provide oversight but the GPA administers it.
The GAA has the ultimate say in it's existence and what % of their headline grant it takes up.

My point is the taxpayer shouldn't be on the hook to pay GAA players. It isn't a good use of public funds.
#13
GAA Discussion / Re: GPA exceptionalism
October 07, 2026, 02:19:50 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on October 07, 2026, 01:49:15 PMThose are player grants from State to the individual players (via GPA?)
Via GAA.
#14
GAA Discussion / Re: GPA exceptionalism
October 07, 2026, 01:35:30 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on October 07, 2026, 12:41:15 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on October 06, 2026, 05:16:53 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on October 06, 2026, 05:12:25 PMIsn't that €8 specifically for the players?

Greyhound racing should be abolished!
Yes. But how the GAA split the 11 was their call.

I don't think that is true. The GAA has no involvement in the Grants/additional expenses scheme.

And soccer is getting €4m per annum for the sham that is LoI academies.
The GAA has no control over where it's grants go? Good one.
#15
GAA Discussion / Re: GPA exceptionalism
October 07, 2026, 12:00:58 PM
Quote from: oakleafgael on October 07, 2026, 11:35:08 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on October 06, 2026, 05:12:25 PMIsn't that €8 specifically for the players?

Greyhound racing should be abolished!

Why?
It's cruel and serves no function beyond gambling.

Whatever about banning, there is no justification for taxpayer funding.

Youghal track got 759k in funds to redo the stand and an annual 50k in running fees. Average crowd - 3. They have run meetings with no paying punters. Remember that next time your club is denied a grant.