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Video doing the rounds of u16 league game today, not good viewing for either club. Disgrace if ccc don't take action the clubs should. Pantomime

What videos?

Gortin v Urney, an all out free for all by the looks of things. Adults panned out on the ground and what can only be described as 2 middle aged men partaking in WWE style combat. To make it worse one of them is wearing a high vis jacket that you'd see on the M1 surfacing. 🫣

Bad all round. Game played on a training pitch with no fence. Our neighbours let themselves down now, urney winning the game well Gortin manager started the whole thing I hear. Young lad from urney only 16 or 17 hit by Gortin coach, i think most parents would be on the pitch if the cub was hit by an adult

As it was an under 16 game you'd presume he was no more than 16...
I've seen some of the videos and they're very poor, for both clubs, the story I heard, from an Urney man, was that it started when a Gortin player, not manager, hit an Urney player, I believe it was a kick on the ground he said, but regardless, there is no justification for the shambles that followed, forget about the training ground and no fence excuses, the videos that are circulating would make you think a fence wouldn't have stopped this.

It started when an Urney lad and Gortin lad were throwing punches and both ended up on the ground. A second Gortin lad drew his boot off the Urney lad on the ground. A bit of pushing and shoving that was being settled by ref and linesman.

Unfortunately a group of Urney lads, including adults, who had been sitting in the second dug out on the far side ran across and starting battering all round them. One Gortin player in particular looked to get a serious facial injury. At that point it became a complete free for all with neither club covering themselves in glory.

The choice of the venue definitely contributed to what happened. The group who caused it to blow up wouldn't have been inside the wire at a normal pitch.

Amalgamations shouldn't be permitted for schools football at all.

Development monies for a sport which got off their behinds and worked  versus free handouts for a permanent moany whingy sport..

With that in mind......

How much hand out money do Horse Racing and the Dogs get?

Answer: Horse Racing €79.3 million and Greyhound Racing 20 million a year

How much to host the Ryder Cup - A one off event?

Answer: €58 million

Which is the more popular Soccer, Golf, Horse Racing or the Dogs?

Horse racing and golf are big employers, they bring money into the country. Greyhound racing shouldn't get as much.
Money for a Ryder Cup has a payback in marketing Ireland abroad.

Soccer is popular, but a lot of that is English soccer. It costs the Irish economy. Irish soccer fans spend millions on tv subscriptions and trips to England.

Both Horse and Greyhound Racing are net contributors to the economy and if you abolished the Horse and Greyhound Racing Fund in the morning there wouldn't be a single additional penny of that available for other sports.

Well in that case, let's just carry on with the status quo. No money for facilities for kids, but tens of millions prize money for billionaires.

You're convoluting two separate arguments.

 

Development monies for a sport which got off their behinds and worked  versus free handouts for a permanent moany whingy sport..

With that in mind......

How much hand out money do Horse Racing and the Dogs get?

Answer: Horse Racing €79.3 million and Greyhound Racing 20 million a year

How much to host the Ryder Cup - A one off event?

Answer: €58 million

Which is the more popular Soccer, Golf, Horse Racing or the Dogs?

Horse racing and golf are big employers, they bring money into the country. Greyhound racing shouldn't get as much.
Money for a Ryder Cup has a payback in marketing Ireland abroad.

Soccer is popular, but a lot of that is English soccer. It costs the Irish economy. Irish soccer fans spend millions on tv subscriptions and trips to England.

Both Horse and Greyhound Racing are net contributors to the economy and if you abolished the Horse and Greyhound Racing Fund in the morning there wouldn't be a single additional penny of that available for other sports.

The issue/rule on this is/was very clear. Unlike in the GAA organised go-games which are able to set their own age grades ie. U8.5, U10.5 & U12.5 to allow children to play in school years, the LGFA rules do not permit this and only allow full years. For a long time the LGFA go-games have been organised on the same basis as the GAA go-games. P3 & P4 played U8.5, P5 & P6 played U10.5 and P7 & Y8 played U12.5. The LGFA at national level became aware of this due to a complaint about a go-games tournament and advised Tyrone that the status quo could not continue and they must play in full year groups.

All clubs attended a meeting about this and the conclusion from the meeting was that Clubs would play U9, U11 & U13 but that only P3 & P4 girls should play U9, only P5 & P6 girls should play U11 and only P7 & Y8 girls should play U13. Girls would get to play with their school year groups and that competitive football from U14 onwards was time enough to split girls into age based groups. So in effect the same groupings as before but with a different name. Unfortunately like a lot of things, you rely on people/coaches/clubs respecting the spirit of this agreement.

Regarding the point made about allowing one 12 year old to play and not another. That's very easily answered, if they are both Y8s play away, if one is a Y9 she shouldn't be playing. It's not "an U13 comp" it's go-games and people/clubs should respect that. Their is a proper U13 competition to be run once the go-games programme is finished.

[From what I see there, there's not a All-Ireland in that Donegal team.]

McGuinness not the genius everybody makes out. Kept with zonal marking, didn't pick up P Clifford but Kerry simply better players and alot better team. From what I see there, there's not a All-Ireland in that Donegal team.

No there's not. Tyrone over the next few years probably the only team that will get close to Kerry.

Possibly, but will need to unearth a few more midfield options. The importance of it shown today.

Donegal not really built to chase games against elite opposition. Too ponderous and not enough pace. Kerry scoring blitz in the first half would have exhausted them.

Paudie MOTM for sure but they'll give it to David.

Gavin White MOTM for me.

And me

Me also. Closely followed by P Clifford.

Some gurning about the ref ffs. Anything he has given has been a foul.

McKernan a clinker footballer but gets in all the shit that a typical Coalisland footballer gets into.

McKernan is at it all the time. However, today when he came on his injured shoulder was blatantly targeted by Joe O'Connor who instigated the shit. Does anyone call O'Connor out?

David Clifford is not behind the door on the shithousery either btw. He's always a willing participant. But he's brilliant, and a forward so the halo remains.

If you saw that on TV I don't know how you can say that with any certainty whatsoever as it just cut to the pair of them and McKernan running into O'Connor. Given the way O'Connor was laughing at the whole situation, to me it seemed much more logical that he was the one being targeted.

For once McKernan the innocent party in that exchange. Clifford instigated a scuffle off the ball in the first half also, not sure if it was caught on tv cameras or not. That said the glaring difference between the two teams was that Kerry kicked inside at every opportunity. Tyrone refused it so many times when there was acres of space to play to. Wither that's management tactics or precious overcoaching im not sure. There was a severe lack of movement off the ball from the Tyrone inside forwards 

E60 and E10

What are the ticket prices likely to be for adults and kids?

Was that not a clear penalty?

No way that was overcarrying poor call!

Aye, and Donegal through on goal. Poor call.

Dreadful call.

And the Murphy mark called back, shocking rule.

Was his own fault shouldn't have called it!

Did he call it? I missed that

Yes he put his hand up. Ref had to call him back. He got the call correct on McHugh as well. He was well over the steps.

Gerry and Leo O'Neill both excellent footballers in the late 50s/early 60's for Derry. Their younger brother was better but went on to win the European Cup rather than the Anglo Celt or Sam Maguire.

Should play a prediction game. Here's my effort:

Kerry-Meath in Portlaoise
Roscommon-Cork in Limerick

Donegal-Mayo in Sligo
Tyrone-Cavan in Enniskillen

Down-Monaghan in Armagh
Louth-Clare in Portlaoise

Armagh-Galway in Cavan/Roscommon
Dublin-Derry in Clones

I think Markievicz Park is closed for a new surface. Armagh v Galway was in Carrick the last time but probably needs a bigger venue.

Big game from McFaul today. Every time he got ball, he purposefully went forward at pace instead of side to side.

Are you completely deluded? Slowed everything down and killed out attack time after time.