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#1
Quote from: Fuzzman on June 29, 2015, 12:15:33 AM
The Burner, did we meet ye in The SilverBirches b4 the game.
Had you Tyrone done at -10

Not me but my mate had! I was the tallest one of the 3! Great banter with ye before the match!!! All roaring on Westmeath! Very enjoyable trip just a pity we couldnt get accomodation in omagh on saturday night! Made to feel very welcome all day and would genuinely love to see ye do well this year. Limerick football supporters are short in supply so it was great to have the bit of banter before the game and be treated with a bit of respect. Would love to be back!
#2
Limerick gave it there all and cant ask for more than that. missed 5 scoreable frees and hegarty unlucky when he hit the post. Referee was deplorable for both teams. Darragh Tracey black card a joke. Enjoyable trip and had good banter with the tyrone lads in the silverbirch before hand. Best of luck for the rest of the year
#3
Quote from: twohands!!! on June 16, 2015, 10:20:58 PM
Was talking to my Kerry source today and he was saying that as part of their warmup a few weeks back the Kerry Juniors played the Limerick senior team and hammered them off the pitch.

He did said that it is a very strong Kerry Junior team this year (and said they will be very hard beat in terms of the Junior All-Ireland) but that this was basically something like their first or second session together as a team but they took Limerick apart.

He was if the opinion that if Tyrone don't cut them to pieces like a hot knife through butter, Tyrone can pack up their tents and go home for the year.
Your kerry source is talking shite
#4
Quote from: Fuzzman on June 08, 2015, 09:38:57 AM
Thank God we missed the other Ulster teams and I'd say Limerick will be a tough enough nut to crack
Good to get home advantage for a change to and it suits me as I'm up home that weekend.

Wonder how Mickey will approach this game? Will he throw in a smattering of U21's or play it safe with the Donegal starting 15.

Have we met before in the championship? 2007 League I see.


To be honest it is the perfect game for Tyrone. A game ye will win with 6-7 points to spare but id expect us to put it up to ye for periods of the game so it wont be a complete stroll in the park for ye. Ian Ryan and Seanie Buckley should be back to full fitness which is a big plus as it think both were struggling pre clare game. Id expect the team that started the second half against Clare to start from the beginning in this game. Looking forward to the trip to omagh and hopeful of a good performance.
#5
Awful, no other way to describe it. No plan, players out there who clearly aren't fit. The attack is utterly inept without Ian Ryan and sadly this looks to be the end of john galvin, he just isn't fit. Just so disappointing
#6
Up and about, the sun is out and the championship is upon us and I am buzzing with anticipation.

What's this you say, There is another match on this weekend apart from Donegal Vs Tyrone?

Yes there certainly is and this could potentially be the game of the weekend. Limerick go into the game being completely written off as usual but that wont phases the boy's one bit. I am please with the starting team announced. The middle 3rd will be a battle royal with a lot of big men battling for possession. Limerick have gone with a similar approach to the league final and are starting with Tom lee a Centre Forward. Tom Usually plays at midfield so the hope is he can help out in the fight for Primary possession. Cork though are playing Canty at centre back so expect the middle 3rd to be very congested.

This Limerick team is a battle hardened experienced outfit and with Cork starting 5 newcomers there is a pontential to exploit some of the relative inexperience in the Cork ranks. The loss of Ian Ryan is a massive blow to our chances, He is the one top class forward in our ranks and is just irreplaceable from A limerick perspective. Cork also have a number of very direct runners which has caused Limerick problems in the past.

The heart says we can do it, The head however says otherwise. Cork will likely eek out a 3-4 point win, but maybe, just maybe today could be our day.


Luimneach abĂș
#7
Limerick Football.

Defeat to Cork in Munster Quarter Final but will give them a fright

Qualifiers, Draw dependant obviously but I reckon we could win 2 games

Hurlers

Anniliated by Tipp, Scrap past Antrim in qualifiers, Before give a reasonable performace against an established team but end up losing as usual.

The contrast between the hurlers and footballers is marked. Footballer get the maximum out their ability, The hurlers continually under achieve and this year will be no different
#8
The most infuriating bullshit I have ever listened to. The Ulster Championsip analysis was basically all about Tyrone vs Donegal, and as for the Munster championship, Well my views on the lack of respect my county gets is well know but I was utterly astounded by the level of ignorance and downright degrading remarks made in that programme. Im am looking forward to 2 weeks time even more now and I can only imagine what some of the Limerick players would of thought listening to it. I full expect of to have a right crack off Cork, Its such a pity Ian Ryan is injured though
#9
General discussion / Re: The IRISH RUGBY thread
April 17, 2013, 02:50:24 PM
Quote from: deiseach on April 17, 2013, 02:30:57 PM
Quote from: The Burner on April 17, 2013, 02:25:40 PM
But you made a statement based on what O Connell said. If you had put up the article, said nothing and I then commented critically on the article you would then be entitled to say "Dont shoot the messenger"

But you delivered your own verdict hence the response "dont shoot the messenger" makes no sense!

I don't think I misrepresented O'Connell's position, and the fact you need to make assumptions that he must have made an apology without any evidence of one suggests to me that his stated position is not a flattering one. Still, I did editorialise (and am doing it again!) so I take your point.

Well he did check on his welfare in the immediate aftermath of the incident. As for you not misrepresenting O Connell' position, perhaps you havent, but you will also have to consider that he may have been responding to the question "Were you worried about a possible citing?" In which case i dont really see anything wrong with what he has said. Like you said its based on assumptions but by the same token you could be misrepresenting O Connell because we dont exactly know what question he was asked.
#10
General discussion / Re: The IRISH RUGBY thread
April 17, 2013, 02:25:40 PM
Quote from: deiseach on April 17, 2013, 02:20:17 PM
Quote from: The Burner on April 17, 2013, 02:06:21 PM
Quote from: deiseach on April 17, 2013, 01:56:45 PM
Quote from: The Burner on April 17, 2013, 01:55:03 PM
Quote from: deiseach on April 17, 2013, 01:47:11 PM
I don't see anyone claiming Paul O'Connell kicked Dave Kearney deliberately, not even Joe Schmidt. If O'Connell meant it, he needs locking up. But since no one has made that argument, bringing it up is a straw man. I notice you don't address the "obstinate indifference to the consequences of one's acts" part of the rules. And by his own words, Paul O'Connell has demonstrated that in spades. He kicks a man in the head and when he looks at the footage his only concern is that he might get cited at an awkward time of the season? Shameful.

Ah come on now Deiseach, Immediately after the incident he checked if he was ok and Id be fairly sure he has apologised for it to Kearney. There is nothing wrong with what O Connell said so dont be making an issue out of nothing

Don't shoot the messenger.

Your not the messenger!

I gave a link to what Paul O'Connell said.

But you made a statement based on what O Connell said. If you had put up the article, said nothing and I then commented critically on the article you would then be entitled to say "Dont shoot the messenger"

But you delivered your own verdict hence the response "dont shoot the messenger" makes no sense!
#11
General discussion / Re: The IRISH RUGBY thread
April 17, 2013, 02:06:21 PM
Quote from: deiseach on April 17, 2013, 01:56:45 PM
Quote from: The Burner on April 17, 2013, 01:55:03 PM
Quote from: deiseach on April 17, 2013, 01:47:11 PM
I don't see anyone claiming Paul O'Connell kicked Dave Kearney deliberately, not even Joe Schmidt. If O'Connell meant it, he needs locking up. But since no one has made that argument, bringing it up is a straw man. I notice you don't address the "obstinate indifference to the consequences of one's acts" part of the rules. And by his own words, Paul O'Connell has demonstrated that in spades. He kicks a man in the head and when he looks at the footage his only concern is that he might get cited at an awkward time of the season? Shameful.

Ah come on now Deiseach, Immediately after the incident he checked if he was ok and Id be fairly sure he has apologised for it to Kearney. There is nothing wrong with what O Connell said so dont be making an issue out of nothing

Don't shoot the messenger.

Your not the messenger!
#12
General discussion / Re: The IRISH RUGBY thread
April 17, 2013, 01:55:03 PM
Quote from: deiseach on April 17, 2013, 01:47:11 PM
Quote from: highorlow on April 17, 2013, 01:25:59 PM
Thanks for that deiseach.

For the Law 10.4 to be applied the first test is to question was the play both Dangerous and Misconduct as the heading explicitly states.

On POC's part it was perhaps dangerous, as for misconduct this is where POC played within the Law's "A misconduct is a legal term meaning a wrongful, improper, or unlawful conduct motivated by premeditated or intentional purpose or by obstinate indifference to the consequences of one's acts".

It is obvious from the footage that POC neither intended or premeditated the act.

Of course kicking a player is unacceptable but only, as proven above, if  the play is deemed dangerous and misconduct. This is where Joe Smidth needs to learn the rules and laws of the game!

Penny was probably foolish to make any comment at all and I don't know the exact context of his comment was but he is actually more correct than the palaver Smidth is coming out with.

Bit of reading for you below.

14.1 Players on the ground
(a)
A player with the ball must immediately do one of three things:
Get up with the ball
Pass the ball
Release the ball.
Sanction: Penalty kick

(b)
A player who passes or releases the ball must also get up or move away from it at once.
Sanction: Penalty kick

(c)
A player without the ball must not lie on, over, or near the ball to prevent opponents getting possession of it.
Sanction: Penalty kick

(d)
A player on the ground must not tackle or attempt to tackle an opponent.
Sanction: Penalty kick

I don't see anyone claiming Paul O'Connell kicked Dave Kearney deliberately, not even Joe Schmidt. If O'Connell meant it, he needs locking up. But since no one has made that argument, bringing it up is a straw man. I notice you don't address the "obstinate indifference to the consequences of one's acts" part of the rules. And by his own words, Paul O'Connell has demonstrated that in spades. He kicks a man in the head and when he looks at the footage his only concern is that he might get cited at an awkward time of the season? Shameful.

Ah come on now Deiseach, Immediately after the incident he checked if he was ok and Id be fairly sure he has apologised for it to Kearney. There is nothing wrong with what O Connell said so dont be making an issue out of nothing
#13
General discussion / Re: The IRISH RUGBY thread
April 17, 2013, 01:45:35 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 17, 2013, 12:15:01 PM
Quote from: The Burner on April 17, 2013, 12:11:15 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 17, 2013, 12:09:37 PM
Quote from: highorlow on April 17, 2013, 11:49:09 AM
QuoteOf course he's anti munster, he's Leinster manager for Christ's sake!

I'm still trying to make sense of that.

The ball was close to Kearney's head. There is no rule against challenging for the ball. It was unfortunate that O'Connell's shin made slight contact with Kearneys head.

Whether you think it was reckless or not and everyone will have a different opinion is not the point. The point is if the shoe was on the other foot and O'Driscoll was involved I doubt you would hear any snid bullshit comments from the Munster camp.

May Smidth go back to where he came from after his comments for all I care.

Slight contact - he was knocked out for Gods sake.

Joe Schmidt is right to highlight that his player David Kearney is still in hospital yet the perpetrator is deemed by an Irish citing officer not to have a case. He needs to stand up for his player and the spirit of the game.

And a bit of casual racism to boot.

Again, He is not still in Hospital

Take it up with Fergus McFadden

QuoteFergus McFadden ‏@fergmcfadden 16 Apr

Nice gesture but don't think he is out of hospital yet... #CarelessCoffee pic.twitter.com/9fOI9aqh79
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Think Ill take the word of the official Leinster website on this Dinny

http://www.leinsterrugby.ie/news/9641.php
#14
General discussion / Re: The IRISH RUGBY thread
April 17, 2013, 12:11:15 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 17, 2013, 12:09:37 PM
Quote from: highorlow on April 17, 2013, 11:49:09 AM
QuoteOf course he's anti munster, he's Leinster manager for Christ's sake!

I'm still trying to make sense of that.

The ball was close to Kearney's head. There is no rule against challenging for the ball. It was unfortunate that O'Connell's shin made slight contact with Kearneys head.

Whether you think it was reckless or not and everyone will have a different opinion is not the point. The point is if the shoe was on the other foot and O'Driscoll was involved I doubt you would hear any snid bullshit comments from the Munster camp.

May Smidth go back to where he came from after his comments for all I care.

Slight contact - he was knocked out for Gods sake.

Joe Schmidt is right to highlight that his player David Kearney is still in hospital yet the perpetrator is deemed by an Irish citing officer not to have a case. He needs to stand up for his player and the spirit of the game.

And a bit of casual racism to boot.

Again, He is not still in Hospital
#15
General discussion / Re: The IRISH RUGBY thread
April 17, 2013, 11:52:15 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 17, 2013, 11:17:31 AM
It was a cover up. A simple disgrace. O'Connell should have been cited period, while I agree there was no intent it was reckless, dangerous and stupid.

David Kearney is still in hospital.

No he isnt.

O connell should have been cited though in my opinion.

As for schmidt, A little naive on his part to allianate Munster supporters given that he could get the ireland job. Should have been a little more diplomatic.

I agree largely with a lot of the points he makes.

Penney should have kept the trap shut aswell