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The 2 pointer equaliser Havern scored at the death in Breffni that wasn't awarded could see Cavan promoted and Down relegated.

It was over the post, correctly waved wide without any hesitation by the umpire who had the best view in Breffni for it.

Great win today. Leaves the Cork game with something riding on it.

Hurson inexplicably changed his interpretation of the impeding rule midway through the second half after giving Roscommon two 13 metre frees from midfield catches. Both Cavan and Roscommon blatantly impeded frees being taken in the last 5 minutes and he refused to bring it up.

The 50 metre penalty for touching a player that fields in the middle, impeding a free and not handing the ball back are a stain on the game. The crowd hate it, it slows down the game and goes against all natural competitive instincts of the players.
The rule won't be applied as stringently in higher profile games because refs would be crucified, get rid of it now.

Another narrow defeat for Down.. our boys are struggling to win pkaying well. Relagation beckons...

Down playing very well. Was a savage game, 2 teams out of it gassed last 10 mins after emptying the tank before that. Down had a nailed on 2 pointer waved wide late on

I was perfectly in line with it and felt it was over the post.

I was in line with it too, and myself and most Cavan people around me thought it was a score

Any idea why the 13m free was given to Cavan in front of the posts in the last few minutes having awarded R McEvoy the free in the first instance, very unlucky not to get a result in spite of the decisions against us I felt.

The Down player flung the ball on the ground and roared at the ref for bringing it back for the free. He looked to first go for a throw up and when the dissent continued he gave Cavan a 13m free.

Another narrow defeat for Down.. our boys are struggling to win pkaying well. Relagation beckons...

Down playing very well. Was a savage game, 2 teams out of it gassed last 10 mins after emptying the tank before that. Down had a nailed on 2 pointer waved wide late on

I was perfectly in line with it and felt it was over the post.

Crosserlough showed they are fine team and probably the best to come out cavan I have seen in last 15 years. They should dominate Cavan championship for a few years and have good go at winning Ulster in the near future. Kilcoo experience won it last night but know they have to improve if they are to compete to win any further games this year.

Not sure how you can say Crosserlough should be dominating Cavan for years to come when Gowna are there having been denied 3 in a row this year, a young side and have plenty of talent coming. They also have beaten Crosserlough in all of the big games they've met in over the last number of years.

Barry Cassidy should never referee a game involving a Cavan team. He has a long history of cheating Cavan sides, unquestionably biased against us. Disgraceful.

Beggan is the best kicking goalkeeper but at the fundamentals he is just average. Even with his forays up the pitch, while he has the ability to kick long range points with that right foot piston, he is quite slow and cumbersome in possession and got caught out yesterday not for the first time. You would have to question the judgement of a pundit who gave him MOTM yesterday after conceding 3 goals. That must be a first for a goalkeeper. I thought Paddy Lynch deserved it but Faulkner was very good too. 

It was Philly McMahon who gave it to him. I agree it was silly, but to give some context he gave it late into injury time and literally seconds before Lynch scored the 3rd one. He then even joked that he made the call too soon. Not sure why they need to make the call before the game is over though

It was a nonsense call from McMahon whether it was made just before or just after the goal.

Lynch gathering a pass and kicking to an empty net shouldn't have made a difference to the decision.

He had kicked 8/8 frees, got a beauty from play and his contribution won Cavan the game. Beggan had failed to make a save for 2/3 shots he faced up to that point, had missed a free and a 45. Was one excellent save, a couple of frees and one shot from play in a game they were losing by 3 with time up really enough? I don't think so.

Cavan beat Louth by a point in Ardee. After leading by 6 at one stage. Tight game, on a tight heavy field. Never saw such a poor reffing performance (hate talking about refs) but clear from early he was losing control of this match and it turned into farce at times. Huge brawl, off the ball hits and all sorts. 3 sent off. Happy to just get out of there with 2 points

A massive brawl with several strikes and headlocks with lads dragged to the ground dangerously.

Yet two of the red cards were for harmless tangles.

That said, James and Oisin only have themselves to blame. James in particular let the team down. We looked comfortable at that point.

Slightly harsh possibly. Look, they shouldn't have reacted. But both lads were targeted all game, especially when they got cards. Ref lost control that way. Louth lads knew they could go after and look for a reaction and ref would do nothing. Only did something once they got that reaction. Like what on earth was the keeper doing up inside our 45 going at Brady when he was trying to leave the field?

They'll know themselves they shouldn't have reacted. We'll support them and move on with a win. We're learning more and more every game

The linesmen are to blame too. James got a yellow for the reaction but the linesman clearly saw the Louth player cling to his leg on the ground and continually drag and push him off the ball in the few seconfs before he reacted, yet it went unpunished.

It's easy talking from the line, I appreciate that. But retaining composure off the ball and not giving the ref an easy decision to send you off should be a basic contribution to the team. And I'd say the same for Faulkner and Gunner last week.

Too the surprise of nobody Donegal v Armagh finishes in a draw.

Both sides will be happy with that result, should guarantee promotion for both. Cavan will feel as if they are still in with an outside chance but we have them at home so I'd expect to win that.

Has much changed from a Cavan point of view? We needed to beat Armagh to go up anyway, that hasn't changed.

It's still theoretically in Cavans hands if they win all their games. Providing we beat Cavan at home though we only need a draw from our 2 remaining matches to guarantee promotion.

I still don't see how the draw today should guarantee promotion for Armagh. If they lose to Cavan it was going to drastically reduce their chances of promotion. That was true regardless of their result today.

Too the surprise of nobody Donegal v Armagh finishes in a draw.

Both sides will be happy with that result, should guarantee promotion for both. Cavan will feel as if they are still in with an outside chance but we have them at home so I'd expect to win that.

Has much changed from a Cavan point of view? We needed to beat Armagh to go up anyway, that hasn't changed.

Cavan beat Louth by a point in Ardee. After leading by 6 at one stage. Tight game, on a tight heavy field. Never saw such a poor reffing performance (hate talking about refs) but clear from early he was losing control of this match and it turned into farce at times. Huge brawl, off the ball hits and all sorts. 3 sent off. Happy to just get out of there with 2 points

A massive brawl with several strikes and headlocks with lads dragged to the ground dangerously.

Yet two of the red cards were for harmless tangles.

That said, James and Oisin only have themselves to blame. James in particular let the team down. We looked comfortable at that point.

Teams faking injury to break momentum and run down the clock isn't new, but a referee not adding on that time and essentially rewarding the behaviour is annoying. It takes a special effort of bad refereeing to have both the winning and losing teams approaching the ref to complain at full time.

Cavan paid Donegal a bit too much respect I thought and we should have been more forceful on the press when they were down to 14. Instead we stood off them a bit and ended up a point further behind in that period. When we went at them in the second half, we caused lots of problems. A few mistakes and poor individual performances let us down. We just didn't have a forward of Gallen's calibre.

Cavan play Cork in 2 weeks in what will be a huge game for both sides.

How many quick kick outs for both teams did he stop because the ball wasn't lined up with the goals! Maybe 4 or 5 kickouts. He was terrible. And I'm not blaming him for the loss other than I think we would've got that score if he'd recorded the time properly. Cavan need to do some major work on retaining our own kick outs and we need to unearth a Full Back if Faulkner and Clarke are playing out the field.

Yeah we didn't compete well for breaking ball around the middle when we went long. A really good kickout strategy needs to be in place if we're going to play the type of football Ray is aiming for.

Are Eoin Clarke or Evan Crowe on the panel? Clarke clearly doesn't have the legs for midfield anymore. I'd leave him at full back.

Teams faking injury to break momentum and run down the clock isn't new, but a referee not adding on that time and essentially rewarding the behaviour is annoying. It takes a special effort of bad refereeing to have both the winning and losing teams approaching the ref to complain at full time.

Cavan paid Donegal a bit too much respect I thought and we should have been more forceful on the press when they were down to 14. Instead we stood off them a bit and ended up a point further behind in that period. When we went at them in the second half, we caused lots of problems. A few mistakes and poor individual performances let us down. We just didn't have a forward of Gallen's calibre.

Cavan play Cork in 2 weeks in what will be a huge game for both sides.

Then they aren't a division 1 side are they?

Bingo.

[It the same thing now in GAA at all levels]

you could stop the whole argument about intermediate and junior championships by scrapping them and  just giving the intermediate and junior  champions a place in the county's  senior championships so there is a pathway for them to be provincial or all ireland champions.

Intermediate champions already get a place (if they want it) in the counties senior championship I'd imagine in most counties

The competition serves up a great carrot, to win a final at Croke park with your teammates

People growing up as kids playing soccer in the streets, wanted to score the winner in the FA Cup final at Wembley. It the same thing now in GAA at all levels, scoring the winner at Croke park with your club, parish town or City

No it's not, junior and intermediate aren't fit for purpose

Tell that to Cullyhanna and Arva...

You're not within a country mile of the point

Its fit for purpose with one simple rule, no div 1 teams in intermediate or Junior for that matter and only div 3 or 4 teams can play Junior ..

Whatever way a county runs off its championship is up to them, but no team can enter the all Ireland series based on those simple enough rules, they must nominate a team, even Jimmy McGuinness could understand that set up!

That will encourage teams to actually play at their level ad not 'below'

Cork and Dublin could really mix it up with their A and B championships though, but to be fair to them as a county they haven't, Kerry are just ruining it

Seems fair. Say what you want about leagues but you wouldn't let a Div 1 inter county team play the Tailteann Cup

If a Div 1 side got relegated and ended up outside of the top 16 and didn't make a provincial final, where would you "put them"?