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Did he not say the referee was against United?

Any inferences to referees bias always leads to an FA charge no matter if its Mourinho, Wenger or whoever.

Twas a stupid thing to come out with

If a cheque that i wrote is cashed, so its showing up on my online account today, can i phone the bank and tell them to cancel it or not pay it?

When is this Co Board meeting and vote, if anything once the proposal is inevitably rejected, at least it'll put an end to the repetitve posts on this board that have been put on over the past 3 weeks or so


Plenty of Divison 3 and 4 players have been given a chance with the county football team over the past few years, whether it be trials at senior, U21 or minor level, or as part of the panel. Truth is, the vast majority of them just aren't good enough

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a few points -

1) it isnt up to the county board to stop certain clubs failing at football, if teams are in Division 4 its because they haven't been good enough, its up to themselves through hard work and training to get out of it, not the county board

2) there are hammerings in all divisions, in all leagues and sports the world over

3) Division 3 dragged on this season because of poor organisation from county board, there weren't enough Monday night matches, as well as Kilcliefs (unpredicted) success in both codes. This can be looked at and learnt from for future years, i dont think leagues have to be restructured again to address the fact that Division 3 dragged on a few weeks more

How does relegation from Division 2 work under the new proposal? will one team go into 3A and one into 3B, and how do they decide?

is there promotion or relegation from 3A to 3B? or will, Aughlisnafin for example never realistically get to play Ballykinlar in a league game again?

There seem to be a lot of grey areas and question marks over this, its badly explained in the proposal.

Someone said that the beauty of this is every club is only 2 years away from playing senior football, i think half of the clubs in 3A and 3B will admit themselves they have very little chance of playing senior football in the foreseeable future, those clubs that would fancy their chances of playing SFC are only one year away from it anyway - if they have a good season and win the IFC like Kilclief have done! Other than that they're 2 years away if good enough the way the league structures are at present anyway

heard today from a fairly good source that several decent replacements are to be approached this week informally. so thats good.. my man doesnt know if geezer was on the list.. so thats not so good. fingers crossed

Forget about Geezer we can't afford him.

why what level of 'expenses' is Geezer on?

I think it was a half forward who was brought down or tripped when going through the middle after winning a break ball
It was a yellow by the letter of the law, but i think in context of being late on in a hard hitting close championship game it could have been let go, however the fact is the said player was spoken to by the ref at least 5 times for petty incidents and  left the ref with little choice

Clann na Banna are favourites for the IFC with the Newry bookmakers

Shamrocks have a few players to come back in and should get past Kilclief in the replay and i think they'll be hard to stop

Two great games in Newry tonight
2nd match was exciting, with Annaclone just scraping home against Darragh Cross by a point, Aiden Fegan getting a sublime point to win it for the Clone in the last minute
The game turned on a red card with 4 minutes left when Darragh were a point up, their midfielder had been walking on thin ice all night and was sent off for constant fouling, think Darragh would have won had it not been for the sending off, they were exceptional in the 2nd half and came from 6 points behind at HT.

Annaclone will need to improve in later rounds
Bosco missed their chance tonight i think, Glenn will win the replay
Definitely worth the admission fee anyway after these 2 cliffhangers!

Chris Killen, Luke Howard, Darren O'Hagan and John McAreavey would be my 4, although there were a couple of teams that i didn't get to watch this year and Burren were one of them so i can't comment on any of their players.

Laverty, Alder and Jason Brown could be on the fringes of the Down Panel, with a few run outs in the league but i wouldn't start any of them in the heat of championship battle.
In truth there aren't many places up for grabs as i think its a pretty strong county squad with plenty of competition for places.

Apres Match, i saw Darragh Cross play a couple of times this year - in castewellan against the Clone, and in Glassdrumman, and 3 times last season as well. Maybe i caught you on a bad day but the day in question in Castewellan most of your team were better boxers than footballers! 

Chief - I am not saying that any of the Darragh players are ready to walk in to the county set-up but if players as previously mentioned are on the squad then tey should be there.

In Castlewellan against the clone, Darragh Cross were terrible. However even playing badly they still only managed to lose by a score and kicked themselves out of it. Annaclone, even with strong county players couldnt play in the second half. They registered one point from about 4 attacks. They beat Drumgath, Attical, Glassdrumman this year and there was one forward in particular looked well worth a trail and that was young Miskelly.

I think these players need to be watches as stated previously, several times a year and possibly worked on over several weeks to see if they can make it as they have further more work to do to get to tough competitive level of fitness. It is easier for division one players as they have the benefit of superb trainers, something lower divions dont usually (but not always).

Would be interesting to see three select division 3 , 2 & 1 teams which has been worked on for a month under county guidance, play each other to see the gap in standard if it exists. I would say there is very little between them all.

Your probably right WWW - some of the players trialled would have been no better than a few of Darragh Cross players, my main gripe was that the vast majority of those at the trials are not and will never be county standard, but as was already been said on here you need to get 30 to make it worthwhile and you need to appease the smaller clubs to make it be shown that everyone is getting a fair crack at it.
My main point was that very few players at the trials will be on the panel come next February or March

Miskelly has been a regular scorer over the years going on reports i read in the lMourne Observer - but on this day against Annaclone he didn't stand out at all. In truth the McArdles ran the show and you could see they were a cut above the rest in what was a poor spectacle

as for your last point what exactly do u mean? are you saying if - for example Bryansford, Loughinisland and Carryduff are each trained by county coaches for a month, and then played each other they would all be close games??
i think not

5 to get -

numbers - 30, 40, 46, 48 and 55

answers please??

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GARETH GATES IS BEFORE CULTURE CLUB - DONT KNOW IF ITS BEEN SAID YET

can anyone provide me with a quick summary of how the re-structuring of the 4 divisions in down is going

how many will be in each league in 2011
how many will be promoted and relegated from each league in 2011

??

thanks

Chris Killen, Luke Howard, Darren O'Hagan and John McAreavey would be my 4, although there were a couple of teams that i didn't get to watch this year and Burren were one of them so i can't comment on any of their players.

Laverty, Alder and Jason Brown could be on the fringes of the Down Panel, with a few run outs in the league but i wouldn't start any of them in the heat of championship battle.
In truth there aren't many places up for grabs as i think its a pretty strong county squad with plenty of competition for places.

Apres Match, i saw Darragh Cross play a couple of times this year - in castewellan against the Clone, and in Glassdrumman, and 3 times last season as well. Maybe i caught you on a bad day but the day in question in Castewellan most of your team were better boxers than footballers! 

[Gary McArdle]

The following players are invited to attend a Down senior Football
Trial on Monday 22nd November in Pairc Esler at 6.15pm. Club are asked
to notify their players and to ensure that they are in attendance.
Players are asked to confirm their attendance before 5.00pm on Monday
by contacting me on either of the numbers below.

An Riocht - Chris Killen
Annaclone - Gary McArdle, Kevin Anderson
Ardglass - Michael Magee
Atticall - Louis Sloan
Ballyholland - Joe Murphy
Ballymartin - Gavin Joyce
Bredagh - Eoin Costello
Bryansford - Philip Bonny, Luke Howard, Joe Ireland
Burren - Cathal Murdock, Gerard McCartan, Sean Murdock, Eamonn Toner,
Anton McArdle
Carryduff - Declan Alder
Clann na Banna - Malachy Magee
Clonduff - Darren O'Hagan, Jason Brown, Paul McPolin, Arthur McConville
Downpatrick - Peter Telford
Drumgath - Jackie Lynch, Stephen Parsons, Declan Sheerin, Packie Downey
Glasdrumman - Conor Harrison
Glenn - Niall McParland
Kilcoo - Conor Laverty, Paul Devlin
Liatroim - Michéal McCartan
Longstone - Conor Poland
Mayobridge - Shane O'Hare, Ryan Brady, Cathal Magee
Mitchels - Shane Cooney
Rostrevor - Sean Parr
Saval - Rory Digney, Fergal McConville
St John Bosco - Chris Duggan
St Johns - Gerard McAnulty
Tullylish - Gareth Johnson, Niall Donnelly, Shannon Drainey, John McAreavey
Warrenpoint - John Boyle

I believe the players above in bold are the only ones who would be up to the required standard especially considering Down are playing top flight football next year. Some of the younger players need a year or two yet with their clubs and county under 21s imo. Conor Laverty should not have to be trialled also, played in 15 of Downs games from January to September last year including friendlys. Darren OHagan likewise who featured in two championship matchs. What are they going to see in a trial that they have not seen from this duo in matchs and in training this year.

Mid Down Geal would you not also add Like Howard to that list

I think this is a good idear, we have to keep the competition up in the squad, and i think some of these players are definitely worth a look at

In all the games i watched in Div 3 and Intermediate Championship this year, i never seen too many footballers capable of playing for Down probably bar Paul McC. Fair enough they need to be given a chance as someone special may be uncovered but majority of those boys just wouldnt cut the mustard.

If i was able to pick one player to throw into the mix it would be Declan SHerrin. I have seen no one compete with him in the games i have watched. Unfortunately because he is playing Div 3 we dont know how he could compete with the likes of Ambrose etc but i would go to the trials just to see if he could be useful. Probably age gets in his way.

They should have a couple of games between these boys and pick there best 18 and then play Downs strongest. Maybe 5 will be worth taking on board I would think but as another poster has said this is just an exercise to keep a few boys happy. Were these players nominated by their clubs or did James ask for them. I have seen a couple of players from Darragh Cross put in big performances this year and i am suprised they are not in the same league as Lynch, Harrison, Cooney, Dougan.

I still think the DOwn squad need another few members.

each club's manager nominated players to go to the trials

ive watched a lot of those players who were trialled in action in league games this year and not many of them are good enough for the step up to county football - 4 at the most! - and 'when we win' - i watched Darragh Cross in the championship in Castlewellan recently and sorry to say none of your team is good enough either