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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
November 24, 2025, 02:55:04 PM
Quote from: WeeDonns on November 24, 2025, 11:02:15 AM
Quote from: DownFanatic on November 24, 2025, 09:15:58 AMWould Clogher be a small club in terms of playing numbers, membership etc?
4th smallest football club in the county, going by 2024 figures
Divisions if sorted by total membership would be;

CLUB FULL YOUTH CLUB FULL YOUTHAdultYouthTotal
An Ómaigh 481427908
Aireagal Chiaráin 596248844
An Gallbhaile 560254814
An Charraig Mhór 373324697
Ard Bó 313295608
Domhnach Mór 350233583
Coill an Chlochair 306274580
Eoghan Ruadh 324230554
An Srath Bán 267281548
Dún Geanainn 351186537
Fionntamhnach 216305521
Oileán an Ghuail 329182511
An Mhaigh 344148492
E R Uí Néill 265226491
Cill Íseal 232246478
Div2
Caisleán na Deirge 239224463
An Droim Mór 307149456
Loch Mhic Ruairí 284165449
Cabhán a�Chaortainn 297138435
Trí Leac 281154435
An Caisleán Glas 203231434
Cluain Eo 295132427
Breac an Bhíle 294110404
Droim Ratha 211192403
An Eaglais208191399
Cill Dreasa 206193399
An Charraig 211183394
Bearach 185197382
Éadan na dTorc 266111377
Achadh Uí  Áráin 247122369
An Chorr Chríochach 163186349
Div 3
An Goirtín 192145337
Droim Caoin 221115336
Achadh Lú194137331
Gleann Eallaigh 159153312
Naomh Eoghan 207103310
Eochar 190114304
Eiscreach163132295
Baile na Móna 168119287
Doire Lochain 22856284
Brocach 17195266
Cill na mBán 18773260
Urnaí126132258
Clann na nGael 18246228
Clochar 11499213
An Craobh 83124207
Doire Treasc 10688194
An Taite Riabhach 9657153


Whats your source for this?
#2
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
October 17, 2025, 09:56:12 PM
Quote from: Yourman66 on October 17, 2025, 09:46:40 PM"No Mr.Sheen No cup to clean 20yrs & Counting..."



"McEhlome again ole ole "



😎
Some shootout in the end between Mcelholm and loughran. I've a feeling we'll be seeing that more in years to come.
#3
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
October 17, 2025, 10:03:06 AM
Quote from: keep_low_through_ardboe on October 17, 2025, 09:57:23 AM
Quote from: alwaysbackthedraw on October 17, 2025, 09:34:06 AM
Quote from: PastThePost on October 17, 2025, 09:23:25 AM
Quote from: pintandgaaman on October 17, 2025, 08:19:29 AM
Quote from: PastThePost on October 16, 2025, 10:44:02 PM
Quote from: White Goodman on October 16, 2025, 10:22:52 PM
Quote from: PastThePost on October 16, 2025, 10:12:58 PM
Quote from: White Goodman on October 16, 2025, 10:00:36 PM
Quote from: PastThePost on October 16, 2025, 09:38:23 PMI see this North Tyrone Coaching programme is taking place, no disrespect to the clubs taking part in it, but surely it's a bit condescending to the clubs in north Tyrone that they're being told how to coach their teams, I know a lot of excellent coaches who are from these clubs, I can't see how the lack of knowledge is a problem?
Clubs need to be run properly, right people in the right places, regardless of who likes who or who is related to who, the ability of club committees to run their clubs properly and ensure they are getting the right people involved, isn't going to be sorted by a North Tyrone coaching programme...
Sensible people in the club committees is something the successful clubs tend to be able to get right...
It's not really condescending. All north Tyrone teams bar aghyaran and Owen rows play junior football. Something needs to change, if you watch some of those teams play it is evident that players are nowhere near the standard of decent sides both skills wise or conditioning. Coaching guys how to properly prepare and develop players is a forward step.

What is condescending is saying that none of these clubs have anybody sensible involved in their committee.

To make the argument that a team and club are struggling because of their committee rather than the fact half the lads playing are filling out jerseys in the wrong areas is just plain stupid.

I'm sure you've heard the term junior club mentality, it's a true fact, and not a geographical problem...
Hope you get reelected at the AGM next month btw

It does seem to be a geographical problem though. You'd think all these excellent coaches in north Tyrone that you speak of would maybe share their knowledge instead of keeping it to themselves. None of these team have 5 or more guys in any sort of shape to play football. Maybe start there. If you mentioned barbell to some of the urney lads they'd probably think it was a bit of cheese in red wax FFS.

Derrytresk, Brackaville, Brocagh, Killyman...a few cheese experts possibly in these 3B clubs, a fair dander to North Tyrone no?

It's extremely important who is steering your club, you need coaches involved who know how to condition a team, age specific training is delivered, to do this you have to move away from the mindset of getting all your mates to coach teams, this mentality is killing teams, not just in north Tyrone...
Strange how this programme has a lot of the sessions delivered by coaches from north Tyrone clubs, and some of them aren't even coaches...

Personalities are the biggest problem in most clubs, the ones who let it impact them to the detriment of their players and teams, are the ones with the junior club mentality, as stated, this is most definitely not a geographical issue.
A lot of these clubs coaches aren't the issue, football is a numbers game and when they might have 10 landing to training no coach will be able to get a proper session in.
Clubs in 3b need to take the senior team out of focus and focus on youth for a number of years, only way to get proggression into the seniors then

My point is a very similar one, no point in clubs paying a fortune for an outside manager, hoping he's going to perform a miracle, when the supply you have coming into your senior team from underage, is poorly coached and poorly prepared from a discipline perspective, to play adult football...
I'm referring to getting coaches in place at underage level who are competent, the family and friends approach is killing a lot of clubs, not specifically north Tyrone clubs.
Your chairman, coaching officer, or whoever it is that's appointing coaches to the underage teams, need to want the right people in these positions, if they just put their mates and relatives in then that's what I mean by junior club mentality...decisions need to be made with the best interest of the club in mind, getting it right at underage is a must if you want to progress as a club.
Agreed majority of the clubs down there are mostly made up from the one family, if anyone outside shows an opinion a fall out will be caused, everything ends up taking a step backwards cause change is requested. Some clubs have broke this Fintona being one of them all though they are back in junior after a bad year. They are consistently now in grade 1 and 2 in every underage team now. No players now coming into a senior team for them has ever played grade 3 football this makes a huge difference as they have a winning mentality. Starts from the top this though chairman and coaches all focusing on the youth. There are a few other clubs in the county doing this also.
Would have to agree with you there as many Junior clubs are stuck in this cycle of mediocrity due to the lobbying of power through families in these clubs. Fintona is a great example of a Junior club who are attempting to break this cycle as they remind me of Loughmacrory in the early 2010s when they were relegated to Junior, as they began to buy into youth development aswell as restructuring within the club. Youth players for the Pearses such as the Coltons (Peter, Eugene and Oliver) and others like young Maguire and Goodman will prove to be the difference within the next 5/10 years as they will be pushing for the intermediate championship and potientally re enter the first tier.
Agree with this completely. That maguire fella I hear is promising and has gone completely under the radar. I hear he is paret of the macrory cup team for omagh along with numerous other pearses men.
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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
October 17, 2025, 09:46:47 AM
Quote from: Derrytresk Til I Die on October 17, 2025, 09:44:09 AMToo much talk about Fintona on this board for a team that went out first round of the intermediate championship.
And that will be playing junior football next year. Pint and GAA man needs to focus more on the GAA than the pints. clown.