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How does everyone see the remaining games in division 1 going?
The boys from the Lough shore surely relegated.
That wee small village team gortin bound to go down too. Or does anyone reckon they will survive the drop. I'd fancy any of the teams in top end of division 2 too beat them considering some of the scorelines they have had.
I'm guessing it was just a case of playing division 1 football as some achievement. Probably see them in division 3 after next year.
Pomeroy surely safe too, but wouldn't want to be too hungover from mcgearys wedding.
Hopefully next year we aren't scrapping round the bottom and can pick up some points early.

Derrylaughan - dromore(a), carrickmore (a), pomeroy (a) and moortown(h)

Cant see them getting a point outa these games. Everyone all need the points here.

Gortin - killyclogher (h), errigle (a),carrickmore(h)

Similar to above, cant see them getting points here. Maybe carrickmore on their last game of the league but it's before a championship run meaning its likely they will be ramping up.

Moortown - killyclogher(h), ardboe (h), omagh (a), derrylaughan

Could turn omagh perhaps who aren't going well, will beat derrylaughan on the last round who will more than likely be relegated. So likely 4 more points.

Pomeroy - Edendork(a), derrylaughan (h), loughmacrory (h)

Edendork is a possibility if they went all out for it. Edendork wont be pushing for top four. Loughmacrory on the last day... would need to see how lough do against ardoe and gabaly to see of their in for a top four finish but again championship prep means this will likely go loughs way. 2 points with a possible dubious 4 depending on loughs circumstances.


Either way the current bottom four placements i don't see changing from now.
Outside chance off pomeroy and moortown finishing strong and omagh dropping into that third last spot. Slim though.

[Is it really that hard for some people to not understand how there could possibly be a rivalry between 2 clubs from the same parish and attend the same schools/chapels/community centre/gyms/shops etc?]

I think people are mixing up derby and rivalry. If anything the lough played their rivals last friday...

Do people think it's either a derby game or rivalry but it can't be both? Would they argue that Celtic vs rangers isn't a rivalry as they are from the same city so it's therefore just a derby game.

Every derby game is a rivalry on the basis of it being a derby. But obviously not all rivalries are derbys


Ardboe vs moortown, Galbally vs donaghmore, Coalisland vs clonoe etc are all rivalries because they are derby games. Errigal vs carrickmore or omagh vs dromore are rivalries but aren't derbys.

Rivalry - "competition for the same objective or for superiority in the same field." straight off google fyi

Yes you can have both derby and rivalry. Like Celtic/rangers and coalisland/clone

They are great rivalries because they've competed loads of times against each other for the same prize and both have bested each other.

With reference to Loughmacrory and Carrickmore with was my original point, They are a derby game, but a rilvary is pushing it. Id say in the last 20/30 years they've played 2 or 3 championship games and a handful of league games with Loughmacory winning only 2 (of the last 3) but traditionally Loughmacrory hasnt competed with Carrickmore and therefore wouldn't have a traditional rivarly. Give it a few more years however and i think it'll be fair to call it a rivalry then.

Donaghmore/Gabally could fit this dynamic as-well ( albeit they've competed at the same level alot more consistently over the last 10 years)

Ardoe/moortown are the exception to prove my rule. They've not competed at the same level much in recent years but have a historical rivalry from 40/50 years ago. So i guess when does an old rivalry become irrelevant?

Im not sure you understand the argument I'm making. I'm saying that derbies regardless of how little/often they've faced each other in the past or regardless how little/much success they've had in the past will always be a rivalry when facing each other in the same competition.

Is it really that hard for some people to not understand how there could possibly be a rivalry between 2 clubs from the same parish and attend the same schools/chapels/community centre/gyms/shops etc?

What you're explaining here is a derby. A derby will always be a rivalry but a rivalry isn't always a derby.

A derby is geographic and a rivalry is traditional/historic.

Durmragh/omagh is a derby. It's not a rivalry.

My original post was that people use these terms incorrectly... I stand by that and will move on.

I think people are mixing up derby and rivalry. If anything the lough played their rivals last friday...

Do people think it's either a derby game or rivalry but it can't be both? Would they argue that Celtic vs rangers isn't a rivalry as they are from the same city so it's therefore just a derby game.

Every derby game is a rivalry on the basis of it being a derby. But obviously not all rivalries are derbys


Ardboe vs moortown, Galbally vs donaghmore, Coalisland vs clonoe etc are all rivalries because they are derby games. Errigal vs carrickmore or omagh vs dromore are rivalries but aren't derbys.

Rivalry - "competition for the same objective or for superiority in the same field." straight off google fyi

Yes you can have both derby and rivalry. Like Celtic/rangers and coalisland/clone

They are great rivalries because they've competed loads of times against each other for the same prize and both have bested each other.

With reference to Loughmacrory and Carrickmore with was my original point, They are a derby game, but a rilvary is pushing it. Id say in the last 20/30 years they've played 2 or 3 championship games and a handful of league games with Loughmacory winning only 2 (of the last 3) but traditionally Loughmacrory hasnt competed with Carrickmore and therefore wouldn't have a traditional rivarly. Give it a few more years however and i think it'll be fair to call it a rivalry then.

Donaghmore/Gabally could fit this dynamic as-well ( albeit they've competed at the same level alot more consistently over the last 10 years)

Ardoe/moortown are the exception to prove my rule. They've not competed at the same level much in recent years but have a historical rivalry from 40/50 years ago. So i guess when does an old rivalry become irrelevant?

I think people are mixing up derby and rivalry. If anything the lough played their rivals last friday...

There aren't many that live in Omagh St Enda's catchment any more. Omagh was always a big soccer town which coexisted with lads playing GAA on Sundays.

The Dromore Road side has been gobbled up by Drumragh.
The East of Omagh suburban side of the town has been gobbled up by Killyclogher who, when they were set up, were a village club  on the edge of town.

I've officially lived long enough to see Omagh complain that peripheral clubs are taking from their talent pool. Unbelievable

Sorry I'm late to the post match debrief! Have we compared everything to Tyrone yet or have I missed the boat?

Looking like Derrytresk will the first team to lift silverware... doesn't look like they'll be caught now...unbeaten too

Not much of an achievement lifting that Micky mouse cup

Glenellys biggest achievement in their history would be lifting that Mickey Mouse cup.

Aren't we living in the Glenelly golden age at the moment? Been hearing this Glenelly team are up and coming for the last 10 years.

10 years? It's been nearly 20. 2008 hogan cup stars Tim Harney, Liam Nicholas, Conal McCullagh and Seamus Harkin are going to bring Glenelly to the heights of grade one football.