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The derg - stephen mc hugh
Ferguson- Pomeroy
Gormley & leonard - greencastle
Naomh Eoghan - Owen devine

Heard very little others

Is it the start of April??

Martin Conroy must've been picked out of a hat to ref that game tonight. Brutal referee, can't understand how he ever got a senior semi final replay

You'd be unreal yourself.

Always thought Conroy was one of the better refs to be honest

I see this North Tyrone Coaching programme is taking place, no disrespect to the clubs taking part in it, but surely it's a bit condescending to the clubs in north Tyrone that they're being told how to coach their teams, I know a lot of excellent coaches who are from these clubs, I can't see how the lack of knowledge is a problem?
Clubs need to be run properly, right people in the right places, regardless of who likes who or who is related to who, the ability of club committees to run their clubs properly and ensure they are getting the right people involved, isn't going to be sorted by a North Tyrone coaching programme...
Sensible people in the club committees is something the successful clubs tend to be able to get right...

It's not really condescending. All north Tyrone teams bar aghyaran and Owen rows play junior football. Something needs to change, if you watch some of those teams play it is evident that players are nowhere near the standard of decent sides both skills wise or conditioning. Coaching guys how to properly prepare and develop players is a forward step.

What is condescending is saying that none of these clubs have anybody sensible involved in their committee.

To make the argument that a team and club are struggling because of their committee rather than the fact half the lads playing are filling out jerseys in the wrong areas is just plain stupid.

I'm sure you've heard the term junior club mentality, it's a true fact, and not a geographical problem...
Hope you get reelected at the AGM next month btw

It does seem to be a geographical problem though. You'd think all these excellent coaches in north Tyrone that you speak of would maybe share their knowledge instead of keeping it to themselves. None of these team have 5 or more guys in any sort of shape to play football. Maybe start there. If you mentioned barbell to some of the urney lads they'd probably think it was a bit of cheese in red wax FFS.

Derrytresk, Brackaville, Brocagh, Killyman...a few cheese experts possibly in these 3B clubs, a fair dander to North Tyrone no?

It's extremely important who is steering your club, you need coaches involved who know how to condition a team, age specific training is delivered, to do this you have to move away from the mindset of getting all your mates to coach teams, this mentality is killing teams, not just in north Tyrone...
Strange how this programme has a lot of the sessions delivered by coaches from north Tyrone clubs, and some of them aren't even coaches...

Personalities are the biggest problem in most clubs, the ones who let it impact them to the detriment of their players and teams, are the ones with the junior club mentality, as stated, this is most definitely not a geographical issue.

A lot of these clubs coaches aren't the issue, football is a numbers game and when they might have 10 landing to training no coach will be able to get a proper session in.
Clubs in 3b need to take the senior team out of focus and focus on youth for a number of years, only way to get proggression into the seniors then

My point is a very similar one, no point in clubs paying a fortune for an outside manager, hoping he's going to perform a miracle, when the supply you have coming into your senior team from underage, is poorly coached and poorly prepared from a discipline perspective, to play adult football...
I'm referring to getting coaches in place at underage level who are competent, the family and friends approach is killing a lot of clubs, not specifically north Tyrone clubs.
Your chairman, coaching officer, or whoever it is that's appointing coaches to the underage teams, need to want the right people in these positions, if they just put their mates and relatives in then that's what I mean by junior club mentality...decisions need to be made with the best interest of the club in mind, getting it right at underage is a must if you want to progress as a club.

I see this North Tyrone Coaching programme is taking place, no disrespect to the clubs taking part in it, but surely it's a bit condescending to the clubs in north Tyrone that they're being told how to coach their teams, I know a lot of excellent coaches who are from these clubs, I can't see how the lack of knowledge is a problem?
Clubs need to be run properly, right people in the right places, regardless of who likes who or who is related to who, the ability of club committees to run their clubs properly and ensure they are getting the right people involved, isn't going to be sorted by a North Tyrone coaching programme...
Sensible people in the club committees is something the successful clubs tend to be able to get right...

It's not really condescending. All north Tyrone teams bar aghyaran and Owen rows play junior football. Something needs to change, if you watch some of those teams play it is evident that players are nowhere near the standard of decent sides both skills wise or conditioning. Coaching guys how to properly prepare and develop players is a forward step.

What is condescending is saying that none of these clubs have anybody sensible involved in their committee.

To make the argument that a team and club are struggling because of their committee rather than the fact half the lads playing are filling out jerseys in the wrong areas is just plain stupid.

I'm sure you've heard the term junior club mentality, it's a true fact, and not a geographical problem...
Hope you get reelected at the AGM next month btw

It does seem to be a geographical problem though. You'd think all these excellent coaches in north Tyrone that you speak of would maybe share their knowledge instead of keeping it to themselves. None of these team have 5 or more guys in any sort of shape to play football. Maybe start there. If you mentioned barbell to some of the urney lads they'd probably think it was a bit of cheese in red wax FFS.

Derrytresk, Brackaville, Brocagh, Killyman...a few cheese experts possibly in these 3B clubs, a fair dander to North Tyrone no?

It's extremely important who is steering your club, you need coaches involved who know how to condition a team, age specific training is delivered, to do this you have to move away from the mindset of getting all your mates to coach teams, this mentality is killing teams, not just in north Tyrone...
Strange how this programme has a lot of the sessions delivered by coaches from north Tyrone clubs, and some of them aren't even coaches...

Personalities are the biggest problem in most clubs, the ones who let it impact them to the detriment of their players and teams, are the ones with the junior club mentality, as stated, this is most definitely not a geographical issue.

I see this North Tyrone Coaching programme is taking place, no disrespect to the clubs taking part in it, but surely it's a bit condescending to the clubs in north Tyrone that they're being told how to coach their teams, I know a lot of excellent coaches who are from these clubs, I can't see how the lack of knowledge is a problem?
Clubs need to be run properly, right people in the right places, regardless of who likes who or who is related to who, the ability of club committees to run their clubs properly and ensure they are getting the right people involved, isn't going to be sorted by a North Tyrone coaching programme...
Sensible people in the club committees is something the successful clubs tend to be able to get right...

It's not really condescending. All north Tyrone teams bar aghyaran and Owen rows play junior football. Something needs to change, if you watch some of those teams play it is evident that players are nowhere near the standard of decent sides both skills wise or conditioning. Coaching guys how to properly prepare and develop players is a forward step.

What is condescending is saying that none of these clubs have anybody sensible involved in their committee.

To make the argument that a team and club are struggling because of their committee rather than the fact half the lads playing are filling out jerseys in the wrong areas is just plain stupid.

I'm sure you've heard the term junior club mentality, it's a true fact, and not a geographical problem...
Hope you get reelected at the AGM next month btw

I see this North Tyrone Coaching programme is taking place, no disrespect to the clubs taking part in it, but surely it's a bit condescending to the clubs in north Tyrone that they're being told how to coach their teams, I know a lot of excellent coaches who are from these clubs, I can't see how the lack of knowledge is a problem?
Clubs need to be run properly, right people in the right places, regardless of who likes who or who is related to who, the ability of club committees to run their clubs properly and ensure they are getting the right people involved, isn't going to be sorted by a North Tyrone coaching programme...
Sensible people in the club committees is something the successful clubs tend to be able to get right...

Fitness of referees is a problem in the county, there was a bit of a handling a few years back when a ref claimed the fitness results were being doctored to allow refs to pass...looking at that today you'd tend to think that's the case indeed.
To be honest, I thought there was some very strange calls made that went against both teams, just a poor show by the officials from start to finish.

The officiating in the Errigal v Omagh game has been shocking to say the least

Not quite sure why OSEs are putting posts on social media re their 'comeback' v Donaghmore, sometimes you're just best saying nothing...

They also felt the need to give Moortown the win on Wednesday night. Result decided before throw in. Sore on the plunketts who should have went ahead of them with their win over derrylaughan.

What posts?

I'm sure you can access their social media pages yourself

Not quite sure why OSEs are putting posts on social media re their 'comeback' v Donaghmore, sometimes you're just best saying nothing...

They also felt the need to give Moortown the win on Wednesday night. Result decided before throw in. Sore on the plunketts who should have went ahead of them with their win over derrylaughan.

Agreed, no doubt a lot of arrangements...poor state of affairs when the so called bigger teams are having to resort to this to secure safety

Not quite sure why OSEs are putting posts on social media re their 'comeback' v Donaghmore, sometimes you're just best saying nothing...

Stewartstown relegated, done all they could bringing Gareth devlin back into the mix aswell.
 Fintona vs Killeshil play off.
 I reckon fintona take it.

Be a big blow in the grand scheme of things for Fintona if they went down. They have big plans next year with their latest input of young players and pushing towards the promotion picture in the next season or two. A year running about hammering everyone in 3A not be as beneifical as playing in Intermediate.

Would only be one year and they would have medals in their pockets

Ah lads, they will have 3 minors coming into the team, based on their performances in Div 2, I wouldn't be confident that they will get promoted out of 3a never mind hammer everyone...

Tyrone GAA has launched a targeted new pilot programme designed to bolster clubs in north Tyrone, addressing the unique challenges while seeking to build on the region's proud tradition of producing stars for the county team.

County Board obviously reading GAABoard ! Lol!

Without wanting to sound disrespectful, I saw something on social media regarding this, there was a photo of those in attendance...these clubs simply need to get proper coaches involved in their underage setups, having mothers and fathers taking basically all of the teams at underage, with no qualification other than being a parent, is killing these clubs. It's very simple, but having the right people in the right places is a must, club committees need to get their act together and do away with the 'family and friends' approach, and get the right people involved.
Historically North Tyrone clubs have had limited numbers, Strabane being the exception and the Derg to a lesser extent, expecting them to compete regularly in Grade 1 isn't realistic.
I believe a similar exercise was carried out around 7 or 8 years ago, if anything things have gotten worse since then, the only way things can improve is by running your club properly, with the right people making the decisions, pretty sure they'd see a good improvement if they tried it and ditched the family and friends approach.

I remember talking to a lad after he was on the team of the week, I congratulated him on it and he thought I was taking the pi$$, I wasn't at the game but he reckoned he was pretty poor on the day, nobody seemed to know how it was picked...and as I said there are 2; Tyrone GAA and We Are Tyrone

I look at the Teams of the Week and I often wonder who provides the input for the selections...
I think there's 2 different ones put up each week and it was always something that I couldn't figure out as I don't believe there are representatives at every game, but I could be wrong?