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#1
Quote from: JoG2 on June 13, 2024, 11:57:28 PM
Quote from: ONeill on June 13, 2024, 10:28:14 PMMR is the only one who can tell, on here, what might work from a ref's level but you'd like to think that's happening at HQ too.

Gianni too of course
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#2
I posted some images to explain myself better but the message was delete? Why? Could anyone help me?
#3
Well let's go in order.
A.

The problem with the rules here is that there is no definition of what a player in possession of the ball is.
Not everyone agrees that a player can dribble the ball like basketball. Infact the definition of caught is to keep the ball or to keep the ball from falling to the ground, I don't remeber verbatim. So if a player stops the ball with one hand to the side, he has technically caught the ball.
I mean when you can dribble the ball basketball style, not having caught the ball, and when you couldn't.
If you catch the ball with two hands? Or when? In basketball if you catch the ball then you can bounces the ball. Here not? If a player stops the ball, but but he doesn't catch the ball, but only stops it like a goalkeeper's save in football, would this be considered a catch?

It would be absolutely advantageous to dribble, one could run for a stretch much faster and then when danger arrives take the ball in his hands.

B.

Quote from: Gianni on June 07, 2024, 05:59:05 PM
Quotenot sure what the D means/is.
I mean holding the ball with hand/s and then hitting It with the head, should it be not legal? Is throwing the ball?
This?

C.
Quote from: Gianni on June 07, 2024, 05:59:05 PM
QuoteThese questions are obscure as are the rules. question 3 .. You can't switch the ball from hand to hand when in possession, if not fully in possession you can touch it as many times as you want in the 'air' if in possession of the ball he can't basketball style the ball up the pitch, as he's in possession of the ball.
I mean without catching the ball in flight you keep bounce the ball in air, like juggling, with one hand like this:



Or with two hands like this:

If you can touch the ball in the air as many times as you like could you continue to bounce the ball off your hand (like the ball on the Hurling bat)? With one hand  or with twoas in the pics?

The rule is To play the ball up with the hand(s) and catch it again before it touches the ground, another player, or goal-posts
Nobody talks about the player having to catch the ball or having to be in control of the ball. If the rule applies to the letter, a player could not touch the ball in the air and then touch it again until the ball touches the ground, a post, or another player. Or am I wrong?

D.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 07, 2024, 11:01:42 AMQuestion 5. anyone on the pitch that does the Sombrero trick (had to google what it was) I'd gladly turn a blind eye and let the defender mill him. but on the rules of play he can do all three. As he's not in possession

So you can touch the balls with feet or any part of the body except the hands and then you could:
1. Catch the ball, obviously.
2. Hit the ball with your hand/s to make it change direction.
3. Hit the ball many times on one hand(s).
4. Hit the ball with one hand(s) and then catch it?

I doubt 3 and 4 are legals.

E.
Rule: A player may toss up the ball with one hand and play it off with the same hand.

It is not a male or female question, but a lexical question.
I mean what play it off with the same hand mean?. So a player tosses up the ball with right hand, surpass a player and then he can catch it with right hand, legal?


#4
Regarding this aspect of the rules, i.e. dribbling like in basketball, I have read several ideas on this forum about it.
Those who say it would be legal:

Quote from: tyroneman on August 13, 2009, 06:03:00 PMMy understanding is that you can hop the ball as many times as you want to gain control of it initially. Up to ref then to decide when you deemed to have control

Quote from: Louth Exile on August 14, 2009, 12:06:03 AM
Quote from: David McKeown on August 13, 2009, 04:54:25 PMMy understanding is that you were correct until last year or the year before when they changed the interpretation on the rule so that even if your attempting to control the ball referees are supposed to now award a free against

Do you know, was it a foul "under the old rule" if you changed the bouncing hand?

Quote from: Smokin Joe on August 13, 2009, 05:43:25 PMDoes that mean then that under the "old rules" that you could bounce the ball basketball style the whole length of the pitch?

Technically yes, but you try doing that against 15 Meathmen!!

Quote from: Hardy on August 14, 2009, 10:18:11 AMThis is all the Official Guide says abut it - interpret as you will:

Rule 1.5: When the ball has not been caught, it may be
bounced more than once in succession.

Rune 4.6 (under technical fouls): To bounce the ball
more than once consecutively after catching it.


It doesn't mention anything about control - only catching the ball. So I'd interpret that as allowing a basketball type dribble the length of the field if you fancy trying it. The Meathmen couldn't do a thing about it these days, Louth Exile without provoking a concerto of multicoloured card waving.

Those who consider it illegal.
QuoteNot really, you still couldn't be 'not in possession' for the whole length of the pitch, technically or otherwise. In practice, the ref will give you three bounces max (maybe four), and if you haven't managed to control it by then and have it in your possession, you'll be whistled up for overcarrying. Unless you're playing in a snowstorm.

QuoteI vaguely recall some rule change alright or talk of it, can you or anyone confirm this ?

up until then it was allowed to bounce the ball (I deem a 'hop' the action of a ball that is under control) was allowed a few times until the player brought the ball under control.
I actually recall thinkig about this some 20 years ago to see if I would actually use this to solo up the field a wee bit while feigning lack of control.
Realised this was stupid and thought better of it.

A decent ref would spot when its under control anyhow, but if that rule had not been applied as DMcKeown says, then the ref was incorrect awarding a free against gardiner on sunday.

This, however, is doubtful.

Quote from: Hardy on August 14, 2009, 10:18:11 AMThis is all the Official Guide says abut it - interpret as you will:

Rule 1.5: When the ball has not been caught, it may be
bounced more than once in succession.

Rune 4.6 (under technical fouls): To bounce the ball
more than once consecutively after catching it.


It doesn't mention anything about control - only catching the ball. So I'd interpret that as allowing a basketball type dribble the length of the field if you fancy trying it. The Meathmen couldn't do a thing about it these days, Louth Exile without provoking a concerto of multicoloured card waving.
Technically the rule is poor written. What constitutes possession? If I stop the ball from the side is it caught?


#5
Quotenot sure what the D means/is.
I mean holding the ball with hand/s and then hitting It with the head, should it be not legal? Is throwing the ball?

QuoteQuestion 2 you can 'basketball' the ball all the way up the pitch, as you have not taken the ball in with both hands or in 'control' of the ball, not used as a play as the ball is exposed and easy to tackle
So if you stop the ball with hand/s buy not catch It could you bounce the ball?

QuoteThese questions are obscure as are the rules. question 3 .. You can't switch the ball from hand to hand when in possession, if not fully in possession you can touch it as many times as you want in the 'air' if in possession of the ball he can't basketball style the ball up the pitch, as he's in possession of the ball.
I mean without catching the ball in flight you keep bounce the ball in air, like juggling, with one hand like this:



Or with two hands like this:
#6
Could anyone help me understand these rules? Please! I beg you! I'm also willing to pay.

1. When the player is in possession of the ball, the ball is held in his hands, he could:
  A. throw the ball in the air and catch it again with your hands? I think not, right?
  B. throw the ball in the air, hit it with any part of the body except arms and hands and then catch it in the hands? I don't think so, am I right?
  C. throw the ball and hit it with any part of the body, maybe like someone throws the ball in the air and then hits it with his head, legal?
  D. Bringing the ball with the hands at head height and then, without either throwing or releasing it, hitting the ball with the head or any part of the body except the hands, legal?

2. Rule: 1.5 When the ball has not been caught, it may be bounced more than once in succession.. So a player could control the ball with one hand (or two?) and play it basketball style as far as he wants? It would be much easier than soloing so how come we don't see it? The reason I expect is that 'caught' does not infer with both hands?

3. When a player tries to catch a ball in the air he may touch the ball several times with his hands as long as he has control of it. But could he continue to bounce the ball from his hand into the air as Hurling players do with stick and ball?
Rule: To play the ball up with the hand(s) and catch it again before it touches the ground, another player, or goal-posts
But, according to the rule, a player, once he touches the ball once in the air, cannot touch it a second or third time?
I believe as long as he can't control the ball the player could do it, but if we interpret the rule literally this wouldn't be legal, would it?

4. Situation: a player takes possession and hops the ball.

 A. After the hop he flicks it up in the air and catches it before it bounces the ground, a posts or a player.
 B. he flicks it to pass the ball to someone else.
 C. he flicks it to score a goal.
are A, B, C legals?

5. Situation: a player with the foot or with other parts of body but the hands tries a "Sombrero trick" and:
 A. in the air he strikes the ball with hand/s to an other direction.
 B. in the air he strikes the ball with hand/s and then he caught it.
 C. in the air he caught it with hand/s and goes on.

6. Ladies Gaelic football allows this:
Rule: A player may toss up the ball with one hand and play it off with the same hand.
So a player toss up the ball with right hand, surpass a player and then he can catch it with right hand, legal?
What does play it off mean


Thanks
#7
Well, let's go in order.

1. When the player is in possession of the ball, the ball is held in his hand/s, he could:
  A. throw the ball in the air and catch it again with his hands? I think not, right?
  B. throw the ball in the air, hit it with any part of the body except arms and hands and then catch it in the hands? I don't think so, am I right?
  C. throw the ball and hit it with any part of the body, maybe like someone throws the ball in the air and then hits it with his head, legal?
  D. Bringing the ball with the hands at head height and then, without either throwing or releasing it, hitting the ball with the head or any part of the body except the hands, legal?

Quote from: Lucifer on May 17, 2024, 11:55:08 AM"Showing the ball" is when the ball handler moves the ball away from their body whilst still in their hand/s, usually as a dummy/fake to deceive an opponent.  A nuance to understand with this, is that some more skillful players might do this with one hand.  Show the ball to one side and then step to the opposite side in an attempt to evade an opponent.  Again this is perfectly fine.  However when passing the ball from one hand and back to the other then the "original" hand needs to maintain contact with the ball as it moves from one hand to the other.  You can't throw the ball from one hand to the other. There needs to be an exchange from one hand to the other or a point, no matter how brief, where both hands are on the ball.  I believe the lack of understanding of this led to the belief "showing the ball" is a foul play.

"Turning twice" is generally a situation where a player attempts to evade an opponent by going one direction and then turning the opposite way and going a different direction, without ever playing the ball (taking a bounce or solo.)  Again, this is perfectly fine.  Generally, this action will border on the 4 steps rule (which isn't policed stringently in any case.
So is this Showing the ball?
0.26
Instead Turning twice is 0.51
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72hTyTj2bao
Am I right?
Thanks
#8
Quote from: JoG2 on May 16, 2024, 10:57:46 AMGianni - Google GAA Official Guide 2024 part 2. Download the pdf. Football rules from page 60 to 122.
The problem is that the manual does not help solve all my situations that I have written. I have already read it but it didn't help me.

QuoteBare in mind as we've seen on here, the referee's handbook within the GAA Learning Portal has more important detail on some rules #minefield
Is there a referee manual? Maybe a casebook but where could I find it?

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 16, 2024, 11:02:12 AMOther question:
The ball may be knocked from an opponent's
hand(s) by flicking it with the open hand
But when the ball is released or is bouncing or soccer juggling, i.e. I mean when the ball is not in contact with the hand, can it be stolen by touching it or grabbing it with both hands?

You can't wrestle the ball away from an opponent if he has it in his possession (both hands) if the ball is open/unprotected then it can be tackled/flicked punched away or taken cleanly
So if a player holds the ball with two hands or even with one hand and his chest, can the ball only be stolen with an open hand? I notice a real difficulty in stealing the ball in this game, because being able to hold the ball in your hands makes it almost impossible to steal the ball, because in football there is more precarious control, whereas in rugby the control is absolute but there is tackle.

What do you think of my other doubts?

Please could anyone explain me what do Showing the Ball and Turning Twice with the ball mean?
#9
Quote from: JoG2 on May 15, 2024, 10:47:14 AM
Quote from: Gianni on May 15, 2024, 10:24:42 AM
Quote from: Gianni on May 13, 2024, 10:48:14 AM
Quote from: Gianni on May 12, 2024, 10:47:35 AMHi men! I am Giovanni from Italy, I come from Rome. I am an amateur soccer player and now I discover this new sport, i.e. Gaelic Football.
I have already read all the rules but I still have doubts.
Ok, let's get started.

1. When the player is in possession of the ball, the ball is held in his hands, he could:
  A. throw the ball in the air and catch it again with your hands? I think not, right?
  B. throw the ball in the air, hit it with any part of the body except arms and hands and then catch it in the hands? I don't think so, am I right?
  C. throw the ball and hit it with any part of the body, maybe like someone throws the ball in the air and then hits it with his head, legal?
  D. Bringing the ball with the hands at head height and then, without either throwing or releasing it, hitting the ball with the head or any part of the body except the hands, legal?

2. Rule: 1.5 When the ball has not been caught, it may be bounced more than once in succession.. So a player could control the ball with one hand (or two?) and play it basketball style as far as he wants? It would be much easier than soloing so how come we don't see it? The reason I expect is that 'caught' does not infer with both hands?

3. When a player tries to catch a ball in the air he may touch the ball several times with his hands as long as he has control of it. But could he continue to bounce the ball from his hand into the air as Hurling players do with stick and ball?
Rule: To play the ball up with the hand(s) and catch it again before it touches the ground, another player, or goal-posts
But, according to the rule, a player, once he touches the ball once in the air, cannot touch it a second or third time?
I believe as long as he can't control the ball the player could do it, but if we interpret the rule literally this wouldn't be legal, would it?

4. Situation: a player takes possession and hops the ball.

 A. After the hop he flicks it up in the air and catches it before it bounces the ground, a posts or a player.
 B. he flicks it to pass the ball to someone else.
 C. he flicks it to score a goal.
are A, B, C legals?

5. Situation: a player with the foot or with other parts of body but the hands tries a "Sombrero trick" and:
 A. in the air he strikes the ball to an other direction.
 B. in the air he strikes the ball and then he caught it.
 C. in the air he caught it and goes on.

6. Ladies Gaelic football allows this:
Rule: A player may toss up the ball with one hand and play it off with the same hand.
So a player toss up the ball with right hand, surpass a player and then he can catch it with right hand, legal?
What does mean this Rule: Showing the Ball or Turning Twice with the ball is NOT a foul providing it is done within the 4 step rule.
I mean what are the showing the ball or turning twice.


Thanks
I add also these questions

Handpass
When a player makes a legal handpass (with one or two hands) he may do:
  A. After he makes a legal handpass, can he catch or just touch the ball on the fly, without waiting for the ball to touch the ground, a post or another player?
I imagine a scenario in which, to overcome an opponent, the player makes a legal hand pass, then goes around him, and finally catches the ball on the fly. But would it be legal?

  B. After legal handpass, can he touch the ball with any part of his body (are arms also considered hands?) except his hands, without waiting for the ball to touch the ground, a post or another player?
That is, imagine a player who makes a handpass and then hits the ball on the fly with a foot, a thigh or with the head or, much more spectacularly, with the chest, to pass the ball to a teammate or even to score a goal or a point. Would it be legal?

C. After a legal handpass, can the player touch the ball with any part of his body and then catch it with his hands?

Point with handpass
We know that to score a point is possible either by kicking or handpassing the ball over the crossbar. But with a handpass does the ball have to be hit with a closed fist or can it be hit with an open hand?
Now we have this:


A fist pass may be used to score a point, a Hand Pass may not.

But in the GAA Rules we have it is legal to score a point with a handpass in which the ball is hit with both a fist and an open hand.
Rule:
A player on the team attacking a goal and who
is in possession of the ball may not score:
(i) by carrying the ball over his opponents'
goal line;
(ii) a goal with his hands except as provided
in Rule 1.2, Exception (ii) but may score a
point with the open hand(s) or fist.


Other question:
The ball may be knocked from an opponent's
hand(s) by flicking it with the open hand

But when the ball is released or is bouncing or soccer juggling, i.e. I mean when the ball is not in contact with the hand, can it be stolen by touching it or grabbing it with both hands?


Sorry for my long time but I hope you can help me understand all my doubts. We can't play without understanding all of this.
Thanks

Could anyone help me understand these doubts?

Thanks

Can we assume all the passes are legal!!

A. Yes as long as the ball bounces before collecting

B. Yes

C. Yes as long the hands don't touch the ball on the ground

Point with handpass : open or closed fist are both allowed

Are you sure?

QuoteYes as long as the ball bounces before collecting

A. So if a player makes a legal handpass he can only touch the ball again if it hits the ground, right? But the ball will be legally touchable even when it touches a post or another player, correct? However, if the player makes a handpass and catches the ball without it having touched the ground, a post or another player, would it be a foul?

QuoteYes
B. So if a player makes a hand pass could he touch the ball with any part of his body except his hands without waiting for the ball to touch the ground, a post or another player? We have a situation where the player handpasses and then, without the ball touching the ground, touches the ball again on the fly with his head, chest or leg, would it be legal as long as he doesn't touch it with his hands?

QuoteYes as long the hands doesn't touch the ball on the ground

C. But in this situation we have a player who makes a handpass then he touches the ball with any part of his body except his hands and then catches or touches the ball again with his hands. Wouldn't it still be a foul since the ball never touched the ground, a post or another player in the passage from hands to body parts to hands?
Also, does the term hands mean the hand or also the arm?

QuotePoint with handpass
But in the card it says that the point can only be scored with a fist pass but not with a handpass, in the GAA rules, however, it is not very clear, it only says that you could do it with an open hand and with a closed hand. Why this difference?


What do you think of my other questions written in red that no one has answered yet?
Could anyone else help me understand my doubts?
Thanks

#10
Quote from: Gianni on May 13, 2024, 10:48:14 AM
Quote from: Gianni on May 12, 2024, 10:47:35 AMHi men! I am Giovanni from Italy, I come from Rome. I am an amateur soccer player and now I discover this new sport, i.e. Gaelic Football.
I have already read all the rules but I still have doubts.
Ok, let's get started.

1. When the player is in possession of the ball, the ball is held in his hands, he could:
  A. throw the ball in the air and catch it again with your hands? I think not, right?
  B. throw the ball in the air, hit it with any part of the body except arms and hands and then catch it in the hands? I don't think so, am I right?
  C. throw the ball and hit it with any part of the body, maybe like someone throws the ball in the air and then hits it with his head, legal?
  D. Bringing the ball with the hands at head height and then, without either throwing or releasing it, hitting the ball with the head or any part of the body except the hands, legal?

2. Rule: 1.5 When the ball has not been caught, it may be bounced more than once in succession.. So a player could control the ball with one hand (or two?) and play it basketball style as far as he wants? It would be much easier than soloing so how come we don't see it? The reason I expect is that 'caught' does not infer with both hands?

3. When a player tries to catch a ball in the air he may touch the ball several times with his hands as long as he has control of it. But could he continue to bounce the ball from his hand into the air as Hurling players do with stick and ball?
Rule: To play the ball up with the hand(s) and catch it again before it touches the ground, another player, or goal-posts
But, according to the rule, a player, once he touches the ball once in the air, cannot touch it a second or third time?
I believe as long as he can't control the ball the player could do it, but if we interpret the rule literally this wouldn't be legal, would it?

4. Situation: a player takes possession and hops the ball.

 A. After the hop he flicks it up in the air and catches it before it bounces the ground, a posts or a player.
 B. he flicks it to pass the ball to someone else.
 C. he flicks it to score a goal.
are A, B, C legals?

5. Situation: a player with the foot or with other parts of body but the hands tries a "Sombrero trick" and:
 A. in the air he strikes the ball to an other direction.
 B. in the air he strikes the ball and then he caught it.
 C. in the air he caught it and goes on.

6. Ladies Gaelic football allows this:
Rule: A player may toss up the ball with one hand and play it off with the same hand.
So a player toss up the ball with right hand, surpass a player and then he can catch it with right hand, legal?
What does mean this Rule: Showing the Ball or Turning Twice with the ball is NOT a foul providing it is done within the 4 step rule.
I mean what are the showing the ball or turning twice.

Thanks
I add also these questions

Handpass
When a player makes a legal handpass (with one or two hands) he may do:
  A. After he makes a legal handpass, can he catch or just touch the ball on the fly, without waiting for the ball to touch the ground, a post or another player?
I imagine a scenario in which, to overcome an opponent, the player makes a legal hand pass, then goes around him, and finally catches the ball on the fly. But would it be legal?

  B. After legal handpass, can he touch the ball with any part of his body (are arms also considered hands?) except his hands, without waiting for the ball to touch the ground, a post or another player?
That is, imagine a player who makes a handpass and then hits the ball on the fly with a foot, a thigh or with the head or, much more spectacularly, with the chest, to pass the ball to a teammate or even to score a goal or a point. Would it be legal?

C. After a legal handpass, can the player touch the ball with any part of his body and then catch it with his hands?

Point with handpass
We know that to score a point is possible either by kicking or handpassing the ball over the crossbar. But with a handpass does the ball have to be hit with a closed fist or can it be hit with an open hand?
Now we have this:

A fist pass may be used to score a point, a Hand Pass may not.

But in the GAA Rules we have it is legal to score a point with a handpass in which the ball is hit with both a fist and an open hand.
Rule:
A player on the team attacking a goal and who
is in possession of the ball may not score:
(i) by carrying the ball over his opponents'
goal line;
(ii) a goal with his hands except as provided
in Rule 1.2, Exception (ii) but may score a
point with the open hand(s) or fist.


Other question:
The ball may be knocked from an opponent's
hand(s) by flicking it with the open hand

But when the ball is released or is bouncing or soccer juggling, i.e. I mean when the ball is not in contact with the hand, can it be stolen by touching it or grabbing it with both hands?

Sorry for my long time but I hope you can help me understand all my doubts. We can't play without understanding all of this.
Thanks

Could anyone help me understand these doubts?

Thanks
#11
Quote from: Cavan19 on May 14, 2024, 09:50:15 AM1.5 When the ball has not been caught, it may be bounced more than once in succession


I would love to see some lad dribbling basketball style up the field and burying the ball into the back of the net.
But the question is:
how to stop the ball? I mean a player is trying to receive the ball but he wants to bounce it like in basketball, but how could he not caught the ball?
If he stops the ball with two hands, without catching it, is this considered a caught ball?
If he stops the ball with one hand?
How?
The rules are so vagues.
#12
Quote from: Gianni on May 12, 2024, 10:47:35 AMHi men! I am Giovanni from Italy, I come from Rome. I am an amateur soccer player and now I discover this new sport, i.e. Gaelic Football.
I have already read all the rules but I still have doubts.
Ok, let's get started.

1. When the player is in possession of the ball, the ball is held in his hands, he could:
  A. throw the ball in the air and catch it again with your hands? I think not, right?
  B. throw the ball in the air, hit it with any part of the body except arms and hands and then catch it in the hands? I don't think so, am I right?
  C. throw the ball and hit it with any part of the body, maybe like someone throws the ball in the air and then hits it with his head, legal?
  D. Bringing the ball with the hands at head height and then, without either throwing or releasing it, hitting the ball with the head or any part of the body except the hands, legal?

2. Rule: 1.5 When the ball has not been caught, it may be bounced more than once in succession.. So a player could control the ball with one hand (or two?) and play it basketball style as far as he wants? It would be much easier than soloing so how come we don't see it? The reason I expect is that 'caught' does not infer with both hands?

3. When a player tries to catch a ball in the air he may touch the ball several times with his hands as long as he has control of it. But could he continue to bounce the ball from his hand into the air as Hurling players do with stick and ball?
Rule: To play the ball up with the hand(s) and catch it again before it touches the ground, another player, or goal-posts
But, according to the rule, a player, once he touches the ball once in the air, cannot touch it a second or third time?
I believe as long as he can't control the ball the player could do it, but if we interpret the rule literally this wouldn't be legal, would it?

4. Situation: a player takes possession and hops the ball.

 A. After the hop he flicks it up in the air and catches it before it bounces the ground, a posts or a player.
 B. he flicks it to pass the ball to someone else.
 C. he flicks it to score a goal.
are A, B, C legals?

5. Situation: a player with the foot or with other parts of body but the hands tries a "Sombrero trick" and:
 A. in the air he strikes the ball to an other direction.
 B. in the air he strikes the ball and then he caught it.
 C. in the air he caught it and goes on.

6. Ladies Gaelic football allows this:
Rule: A player may toss up the ball with one hand and play it off with the same hand.
So a player toss up the ball with right hand, surpass a player and then he can catch it with right hand, legal?
What does mean this Rule: Showing the Ball or Turning Twice with the ball is NOT a foul providing it is done within the 4 step rule.
I mean what are the showing the ball or turning twice.

Thanks
I add also these questions

Handpass
When a player makes a legal handpass (with one or two hands) he may do:
  A. After he makes a legal handpass, can he catch or just touch the ball on the fly, without waiting for the ball to touch the ground, a post or another player?
I imagine a scenario in which, to overcome an opponent, the player makes a legal hand pass, then goes around him, and finally catches the ball on the fly. But would it be legal?

  B. After legal handpass, can he touch the ball with any part of his body (are arms also considered hands?) except his hands, without waiting for the ball to touch the ground, a post or another player?
That is, imagine a player who makes a handpass and then hits the ball on the fly with a foot, a thigh or with the head or, much more spectacularly, with the chest, to pass the ball to a teammate or even to score a goal or a point. Would it be legal?

C. After a legal handpass, can the player touch the ball with any part of his body and then catch it with his hands?

Point with handpass
We know that to score a point is possible either by kicking or handpassing the ball over the crossbar. But with a handpass does the ball have to be hit with a closed fist or can it be hit with an open hand?
Now we have this:

A fist pass may be used to score a point, a Hand Pass may not.

But in the GAA Rules we have it is legal to score a point with a handpass in which the ball is hit with both a fist and an open hand.
Rule:
A player on the team attacking a goal and who
is in possession of the ball may not score:
(i) by carrying the ball over his opponents'
goal line;
(ii) a goal with his hands except as provided
in Rule 1.2, Exception (ii) but may score a
point with the open hand(s) or fist.


Other question:
The ball may be knocked from an opponent's
hand(s) by flicking it with the open hand

But when the ball is released or is bouncing or soccer juggling, i.e. I mean when the ball is not in contact with the hand, can it be stolen by touching it or grabbing it with both hands?

Sorry for my long time but I hope you can help me understand all my doubts.
Thanks
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Hi men! I am Giovanni from Italy, I come from Rome. I am an amateur soccer player and now I discover this new sport, i.e. Gaelic Football.
I have already read all the rules but I still have doubts.
Ok, let's get started.

1. When the player is in possession of the ball, the ball is held in his hands, he could:
  A. throw the ball in the air and catch it again with your hands? I think not, right?
  B. throw the ball in the air, hit it with any part of the body except arms and hands and then catch it in the hands? I don't think so, am I right?
  C. throw the ball and hit it with any part of the body, maybe like someone throws the ball in the air and then hits it with his head, legal?
  D. Bringing the ball with the hands at head height and then, without either throwing or releasing it, hitting the ball with the head or any part of the body except the hands, legal?

2. Rule: 1.5 When the ball has not been caught, it may be bounced more than once in succession.. So a player could control the ball with one hand (or two?) and play it basketball style as far as he wants? It would be much easier than soloing so how come we don't see it? The reason I expect is that 'caught' does not infer with both hands?

3. When a player tries to catch a ball in the air he may touch the ball several times with his hands as long as he has control of it. But could he continue to bounce the ball from his hand into the air as Hurling players do with stick and ball?
Rule: To play the ball up with the hand(s) and catch it again before it touches the ground, another player, or goal-posts
But, according to the rule, a player, once he touches the ball once in the air, cannot touch it a second or third time?
I believe as long as he can't control the ball the player could do it, but if we interpret the rule literally this wouldn't be legal, would it?

4. Situation: a player takes possession and hops the ball.

 A. After the hop he flicks it up in the air and catches it before it bounces the ground, a posts or a player.
 B. he flicks it to pass the ball to someone else.
 C. he flicks it to score a goal.
are A, B, C legals?

5. Situation: a player with the foot or with other parts of body but the hands tries a "Sombrero trick" and:
 A. in the air he strikes the ball to an other direction.
 B. in the air he strikes the ball and then he caught it.
 C. in the air he caught it and goes on.

6. Ladies Gaelic football allows this:
Rule: A player may toss up the ball with one hand and play it off with the same hand.
So a player toss up the ball with right hand, surpass a player and then he can catch it with right hand, legal?
What does mean this Rule: Showing the Ball or Turning Twice with the ball is NOT a foul providing it is done within the 4 step rule.
I mean what are the showing the ball or turning twice.

Thanks