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Anyone know if mckaigue still with Ardboe? If he is it doesn't seem to be working out for them going by last nights performance. In fairness Ardboe were missing lads and Carmen had near enough full team out but never looked like a competitive game from the start

Given the most likely scenario this weekend is still second or third regardless of result as Donegal should beat Clare with plenty to spare, management should use the game to build the fitness of Harte, Burns, Oguz, Kilpatrick and give extended game time to O'Hare. I would also stick with Clarke who had a good game against Clare and stick with Ruairi Canavan whos confidence will surely improve with 70 minutes under his belt and a few good scores late on. Having 20 odd players in good condition and competing should have us in reasonable shape for Prelim QF and Quarter Finals.
Morgan; Clarke Hampsey McKernan; O'Hare Donnelly Harte, Kennedy Kilpatrick; Burns Oguz O'Donnell/Daly; McCurry D Canavan R Canavan. Still leaves Devlin, Daly/O'Donnell, McGeary, McShane, C Quinn, M O'Neill.

Goodman putting O'Hare in after playing 30 mins at the weekend and no county experience... Defo from East Tyrone, imbecile.

Calling someone an imbecile for wanting a young lad to get some experience under his belt? By your logic young lads will never get game time as they don't have county experience

Not sure what the Wexford team are normally like but that was bad. Maybe Tyrone are that far ahead but it looked like we didn't get out of 2nd gear at times. Is that game really going to help the young lads more than a club game would? Wexford did have 2 or 3 good players in fairness but nowhere near where those Tyrone lads are at

[An Charraig Mhor Naomh Colmcille]

An Charraig Mhor Naomh Colmcille 1-10    An Droim Mór Naoimh Damhnait 0-8
An Eaglais, Naomh Pádraig 2-10    Domhnach Mór Naoimh Pádraig 3-11
Ardboe O'Donovan Rossa 0-14    Galbally Pearses 1-14
Coill an Chlochair Naomh Mhuire 3-12    Clonoe O`Rahilly's CLG 2-10
Dungannon Thomas Clarke GAA 0-14    Omagh St Enda's 1-15
Edendork St Malachy's 1-12    Fianna Oileán an Ghuail CLG 1-11
Loughmacrory St. Teresa's 0-11    Pomeroy Plunketts 4-07
Trí Leac C. Naoimh Mhic Artáin 1-11    Errigal Ciaran 1-11

Aghyaran    1-18    Moortown St Malachy's    1-14
An Caisleán Glas Naoimh Pádraig    0-12    Stewartstown Harps    0-10
Beragh Red Knights GAA    3-12    Fionntamhnach Na Piarsaigh    0-10
Drumragh Sarsfields    0-9    Cookstown Fr. Rock's GAA    1-5
Gortin St Patrick's    0-10    Kildress Wolfe Tones    0-10
Naomh Eoghan    1-8    Moy Tír na nÓg    1-12
Owen Roe O`Neill's GAC, Leckpatrick    2-10    Clogher Eire Óg    1-11
Rock St Patrick's    1-12    Derrylaughan Kevin Barry's GAC    3-16

Augher St Macartan's GFC    0-9    Achadh Lú Uí Néill    1-11
Breac an Bhile Eoghan Rua    0-5    Drumquin Wolfe Tones    1-14
Brockagh Emmetts    2-8    Clann na nGael    1-15
Castlederg St Eugene's    0-9    Eskra Emmetts    1-13
Cill na mBán Naomh Mhuire    0-2    Gleann Éallaigh    4-22
Derrytresk Fir an Chnoic    0-9    An táite Riabhach Naoimh Pádraig    0-10
Urney St Columba's    0-10    Strabane Sigersons    1-9

Some surprising results on Friday night. Edendork beating Coalisland in a starred game surely a big surprise. Would Edendork have won many starred games in recent years?

What would Coalisland look like without their county men? No Hampsey, McKernan, T. Quinn, Devlin. Anyone know if McHugh was back playing?

Found it notable the turnover in players between minor and U20 in recent years

Very few of the minor team who lost to Meath were playing in the recent U20 win, with a number of starters not even on the panel, in effect a very young U20 team with some only finished up at MacRory

Similar a few years ago when McHugh was MF on the winning U20 team 3 years before his final year

How is it that 17-18-19yos are significantly outnumbering 20yos on the 20s team?

Fall off between 20s and Senior is to be expected, but seems a gap between minor and 20s

There is some serious talent coming through at the moment but Senior mgmt is the big ticket item on the horizon, the right appointment is critical, no idea who would be best

Any notable omissions that come to mind? Guessing Strain would be the main one

Maybe my standards are in the bin but I think some people are being a bit harsh on the players here. Michael O'Neill has been good at club level from whenever ive seen him. Maybe not starting quality for a top county team but hes deserving of a squad role. R. Canavan is only young yet. Took Darragh a few years to get to where he is now and Darragh wasn't expected to perform straight away from Mickey or Logan and Dooher. Took him maybe 3 or 4 years to get to this level

Holy christ we cannot defend. What have they been looking at in training? Do they see Canavan having to beat 3 men by himself and think they'll eventually win a match?

They won't care however Tyrone should have won that final by 15+ points.  What's with all the number 11 talk? Anyone that has been watching him stand out at minor,schools or U20 this year should know Eoin McElholm name at this stage.

Thought I was going crazy. McElholm is the main man on this Tyrone team. Like referring to R. Canavan in '22 as the #12

[I'd like to introduce something like in basketball whereby once you cross the opposition 50m you cant go back]

Can you imagine how good this game could have been if they decided to play a decent brand of football? The score taking has been unreal but despite that the enjoyability of the football is pathetic.

I know McGuinness wouldn't give a f**k about that but I really hope the football review group implement some form of strategy to negate this anti football shite.

What would you suggest?

We can't keep messing about with the rules of the game just because we don't like how teams are playing the game. There's been enough of that over the years.  The answer isn't in 13 aside or any other mad cap notion.  It's in new, innovative coaches coming on the scene with a different approach.  And there will be at some point.

100% agree with this. There is constant tinkering with the rules. Get rid of the forward / defensive mark and then leave well alone.

I'd more or less be on board with this.  I'd like to introduce something like in basketball whereby once you cross the opposition 50m you cant go back.  I think that would be easy enough policed by all officials too. I realise something like this is unlikely to ever be introduced though, so just removing the advanced/defensive mark would be grand.

Would this be the same as it is in basketball though where you can go back into your own half for an inbound/sideline ball in the last 2 minutes of the game and last 2 minutes of extra time?

Can you imagine how good this game could have been if they decided to play a decent brand of football? The score taking has been unreal but despite that the enjoyability of the football is pathetic.

I know McGuinness wouldn't give a f**k about that but I really hope the football review group implement some form of strategy to negate this anti football shite.

What would you suggest?

We can't keep messing about with the rules of the game just because we don't like how teams are playing the game. There's been enough of that over the years.  The answer isn't in 13 aside or any other mad cap notion.  It's in new, innovative coaches coming on the scene with a different approach.  And there will be at some point.

100% agree. Is there another sport in the world that changes rules as often? Just let the game develop. Players used to kick the ball away 9/10 times they got it so I don't see how thats any more enjoyable than what's being played at the minute. Some people need to appreciate what we have more

Can you imagine how good this game could have been if they decided to play a decent brand of football? The score taking has been unreal but despite that the enjoyability of the football is pathetic.

I know McGuinness wouldn't give a f**k about that but I really hope the football review group implement some form of strategy to negate this anti football shite.

What would you suggest?

Yes, they should just suspend him for a club league game in the middle of June for that.
Baffling logic.
It was a red card offence all day and he deserves to miss the next game at least for it.

Unless you were there.. I'm going by TV footage

The officials who consulted and decided that he deserved a red were there.
The Roscommon players who reacted like he was out of order were there.
I imagine the vast majority of people who viewed the footage you did would be satisfied that there was a strike or an attempted strike.
But, you are from his club so you see it differently.

He clearly throws an arm out. Don't know how hard he caught the Roscommon player but the intent was there. To do that in a semi final of a game you're winning comfortably is crazy. What a stupid thing to do

Looked innocuous enough. Roscommon lad seemed to make a meal of it. Very severe to miss an All Ireland final..

He swung an arm out at someones face. Stupid thing to do when you're comfortably winning in any game but to do it in a semi final is lunacy. No one to blame but himself for it.

Have noticed it a few times now that most of our players look uncomfortable shooting off their weaker foot. Ronan Cassidy passed up on the shot from 25m out and O'Hare missed one from around 20m out

But they've done nothing in recent years to show they have the nerve to win a big game - I think they are just short a few players and need to focus on the football and not the physical antics they often get themselves involved in. If they focus on playing their own game and I think they'll do better than trying to out-tactic Donegal.

What physical antics? Have they been giving away more frees than the opposition? Have they had more cards?

Ok it may be a subjective view, but Armagh seem to overly focus on trying to out-muscle other teams. Often resulting in cards, sometimes resulting in spendings off. Example is last year's ulster final - it was a game Armagh could have won (especially given the circumstances around Derry), game almost over and Rian O'Neill made a bee line for McGuigan and took him down at shoulder height conceding a free which ultimately cost Armagh the game. No reckless physical tackle, Armagh win.
Armagh have been involved in a number of incidents over recent years with melee's and multiple sendings off.
Rian is close to being a liability in my view - undoubtedly very talented, but he's just as likely to get himself sent off in the first 10 minutes as he is to putting in a match winning performance imo.

That's what I mean by physical antics.
I've not issue with teams playing an aggressive game, but Armagh seem to step over the line more often than others. In my opinion, reigning that part of the game in a little and focusing more on footballing side of it will be of more benefit to Armagh.

you havent watched much of armagh this year. Thankfully we look to have left a lot of that nonsense behind.
How often has Rian been sent off in the first ten minutes by the way?

What was the last bit of shite we were involved in? Galway 2022?

Rian put his knee to Cormac Quinn's head/neck. But i guess that's more of an individual thing than a collective