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Joe brolly with an excellent article in the gaelic life this week . Takes the ballyholland coach to task . Quality reading

Hedgehunter and terrific tommy the reality is neither of you are doing your club any favours . Down follower surely you are not basing your punishments on board hearsay 😏

County management deserve all they get after the ridiculous decision to bring dan gordan back a week before a game and starting him. I'd say they lost the subs after that.

wat a disgrace , froch took massive shots and the ref never did a thing, its not like groves had his head up in the air taking shots , he had the head down pushing into froch. gutted for him

cheers lads

any streams for grooves froch?

stiff breeze, glad to hear Glen have the only irish speakers in the county. Last year at cut off point teams below you in the league were put in B championship yet you were put in C championship.  Somebody somewhere loves you ?

So nobody loves you is that the issue? Maybe your daddy didn't give u the hugs u craved when u were a 14 year old girl , I don't care, all that matters to me is our under 16s did the club very proud by Wining the championship.

Great day for Glenn yesterday with the U16s winning the B Final against Castlewellan and the Seniors winning the Div 2 title afterwards in Dundrum.

It was brilliant, Minus. I would say its a long time since Castlewellan got such a hammering (U16s), and the seniors coming home with the trophy finished off a remarkable season.

2 years in a row your u16's have been hiding in division 3 pretending you can't field 15 players and then come out to win a championship.  maybe you should be honest and asked to be graded properly . if there had been a C championship you wouldn't even have been in the B, but your not alone at this game St. Pauls, Kingdom, Loughinisland and Bryansford spring to mind

not sure of the relevance of glenns under 16 team league two years ago is or last years for that matter. You do understand that once a player is over 16 they move on to minor. Glenn started the year with 18 eligible players at under 16 level.  Knowing three were going to the Gaeltacht for a month in the summer would you have entered them in a 15 aside league? Dont let the facts get in the way of your wee rant though .

hiltown getting beat tonight by 18 points shows the new league system is a joke , they are one of the weaker teams promoted and we should go back to the competitive 10 team div one , on no wait..........

How long is this league format actually in place for? I have not seen many positives from it to be honest apart from the fact that for the first time in a few years the league programme will be finished in decent time.  But then when will the playoffs be done and dusted??

I think it has been quite a good league to be honest.  Why is everyone giving out about it?? Yes Warrenpoint have taken a couple of hammerings in their last two games but up until that they were quite competitive - they just appear to have given up the ghost.
An Riocht above them in 2nd bottom beat Kilcoo not that long ago and have also been competitive.
Rostrevor in 3rd bottom beat Castlewellan, the top team in the league only 2 weeks ago while Liatrom, 4th bottom, beat Mayobridge.  Clonduff are only after beating Burren!

I dont think you would find too many other counties where the 13/14/15 placed teams are capable of beating the top 2 or 3 on any given day.  Obviously there are circumstances which helped these teams to win but they still did it!

Tullylish and Glenn coming up next year along with possible one other via play off. They may well go back down the following year but so what - it will be great for them to play these BIG teams for the first time in donkeys years and who is to say they wont give them a rattle when playing at home in front of a partisan crowd.

The 12 team leagues always produced a handful of dead rubbers at the end of the season. The 10 team leagues produced next to none. The 15 team leagues are awash with them this year. And next year, when there's going to be a series of fixtures between SFC standard teams and IFC standard teams, and in some cases, SFC standard teams against JFC standard teams, it's going to be even worse again.

But Wee Johnny is going to be able to say he played D1 football. Good for him.

When there was a ten team div 1 the top 3 teams were still miles ahead of the rest, there was a middle pack and 2 or three who struggled.  The only difference now is that the middle pack is larger. As for wee johnny he wont get much of an idea of what div 1 standard football is when he plays 13 man behind the ball ballyholland.

Castlewellan beat a poor warrenpoint side last nite 5.23 to 0.7. This result (as does the burren v point result) only prove that division one needs to be reverted back to a 10/12 team league. IMO a 10 team div 1 and div 2 is the only way forward. No disrespect to teams at the bottom if div 1, because we were there for a few years but Their is too much of a gulf in class between the top and bottom teams. A 10 team league would garentee tight games almost every week. It would also make div 2 stronger and more competitive as was the case a few years back when we had this system. Results like last night don't stand well for the teams that get promoted next year.

Exactly how do these two results prove anything Taking the point as an example before the start of the championship they got beat by 7 points on one occasion , That was the most all year ! they have been competitive most of the year taking a few big scalps along the way. As for the burren and castlewellan results they were relegated for both barring a miracle so is it really a big surprise they didn't turn up???

idiots who post knee jerk comments without any substance do my head in

Liam doyle was in the team we had picked instead of mcparland. cant believe I forgot him. knew there would be one. he would be a definite starter.

Personally I keep McParland and put in Doyle instead of Colgan, who I never felt made it. Rafferty would be long in the tooth now, but there is always Timmy Hanna (who made himself unavailable??). Also Shay McCartan would be figuring by now if not departed for soccer. I know officially Ronan Murtagh retired but it was really just because of persistent injury.

Murtagh never retired james just does not pick him yet he is consistently on of the best forwards in down. Conceding 1-15 against a very poor derry side does not bode well for the donegal game. we should think about playing 12 players behind the ball and try to beat them at their own game otherwise it will be a walkover.

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secondly jim mc guinness ..... had turned them into a solid defensive unit that conceded no more than nine scores in any ulster game. FACT

I bothered to do a bit of research and have now embarrassed you, but feel free to continue blindly believing a new dawn is coming under wee james.

over to you

Why would I be embarrassed by someone that can't count? Donegal conceded 11 points to Cavan  in the 2011 Ulster QF, 13 points to Cavan in the 2012 Ulster prelim, 13 points to Derry in the 2012 semi-final and ......... Wait for it....... 13 points to Us, your own team in the 2012 final!!!!!!!

So just because you put the word FACT in big brave bold capital letters doesn't actually mean that it is.

I meant ulster that year,  and u are right about the cavan game, but barring that slip my point still stands that donegal on took six months to implement their new system

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If you don't even go to the matches, I seriously doubt you attend training sessions. So how are you an expert on what happens in the Down camp?

Secondly what part of your own comment did you not read – It took Donegal six months according to you but after only one month you are confidently announcing we have failed!!!! By the way McGuinnes started  training Donegal in his approach in July 2010. It took him a year to get it right for the championship. But hey, why check your facts???

rather than counter any of my points , you pointed out FOUR times what i already told you, I wasnt at the match, get over it.

Now just to correct what you THINK you know , yes Down played a system last year where  a corner forward dropped back into the half back line like you said but they did not just drop a sweeper into the defence , whatever side the attack was coming down the half forward on the other side dropped back allowing the far side half back to come across and close the space, this didnt work as teams played early ball and also there was confusion about the system.

secondly jim mc guinness took over in july 2010 but didnt meet then donegal panel until november 2010 and didnt start trainin til december 2010 .  So on the 15th of may 2011  when they started the ulster championship he had only been training them for six months and had turned them into a solid defensive unit that conceded no more than nine scores in any ulster game. FACT

I bothered to do a bit of research and have now embarrassed you, but feel free to continue blindly believing a new dawn is coming under wee james.

over to you

no i wasnt in at the match last weekend. Trying to replicate Donegal's system isnt workin for us, it only took donegal six months to improve their defensive side of the game ,from maginess took over til round 1 in the championship.  they nearly won sam that year  by being totally negative but in his second term they had added an attacking edge and were the complete article.

The problem with tryin to play that way is down do not have jim maginess, its not simply a case of flooding the defence as we seem to be doing if it was everyone would be doin it this way. maginess is a tactical genius and worked on a system of play tirelessly, there were so many sessions done at walking pace , this hasnt happened in the down camp, there in lies the problem.