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#61

Quite frankly, the level of understanding of the mechanisms of our own association are not good enough amongst the lads arguing the petty end of this debate all day.

i've missed 5 pages of "debate" and read back through it this morning. every question raised (as though it were brand new) has been answered ad nausem already.

There are a lot of begrudgers out there who oppose this (and every?) government grant scheme. these people seem to change their justification for this on an hourly basis, depending on who can come up with the next rehashed line of opposition.


Quote from: pintsofguinness on December 08, 2007, 11:44:53 PM
QuoteI won't be supporting my county again.

Really, I can't believe that. Do you feel that strongly about this?

Yes.
To be honest, I was feeling luke warm towards the county last year over one of two different things and stayed away from the championship matches (I had attended the league and McKenna cup games I could) but this is the final nail in the coffin.

These people don't belong to my GAA and clearly have no respect for the ordinary GAA people like myself. 

I'm sure I won't be missed but that's how I feel. 

Don't let the door hit you in the arse on the way out...
#62
GAA Discussion / Re: Some realism please on the GPA
December 09, 2007, 01:11:24 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on December 09, 2007, 11:56:22 AM
Oisin McConville was handed a pub to run because of his Celeb status. 

You better check yur facts there. He was offered the opportunity to lease the pub. big difference.
#63
Quote from: pintsofguinness on December 08, 2007, 05:12:19 PM
The government can say whatever they want - the gaa pays players expenses, how can more money be expenses?

Obviously the Government, having professional people to deal with these things, feel the gaa don't adequately meet their responsibilities towards their IC players.
But you're probably right.

Quote from: pintsofguinness on December 08, 2007, 05:12:19 PM
third time, where did you pick this up from?

Anyone interested can find these things out. that meeting ended hours ago.

#64

Well The government define that as the critera for these grants. So who's right, you or the government?

#65
as this grant is the government's contribution towards the recognised monetary, time and commitment costs of preparation, then you'd have no problem?
#66
Let me ask you one simple question pog. Don't get hysterical or deviate from this narrow area:

If the gpa as body had applied for and achieved government funding for a training grant aid scheme and the government paid them the monies directly to distribute amonst their membership, would you disapprove?
#67
Ratification of the grants scheme was unanimous at today's central council meeting. not a single dissenting voice. not surprising considering cc initially passed this scheme in february. funds will be distributed centrally.
#68
GAA Discussion / Re: The Hypocritical GAA Thread
December 06, 2007, 04:49:43 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on December 06, 2007, 04:45:49 PM
People who profess an undying love of the game of football , but are continually looking for changes to the rules.


Not necesarily always a bad thing. you have always to strive to improve. free kicks from the hand was a progressive change.

Players having salaries replaced in return for sacraficing work time to train semi professionally, eg. going part time.
#69

Seriously lads, an we still be serious about putting playstation, hill walking and chess clubs on a par with being a county footballer? is it possible that there are people within our own organisation who regard meeting the commiment requirements to last on a county panel as a hobby? it's my belief that anyone peddling this line need to enlighten themselves of the real requirements, or are simply arguing for the sake of it.
#70
GAA Discussion / Re: Ryan Cup Final
December 06, 2007, 02:55:47 PM

nope, even rhetorically it is plain stoopid
#71
GAA Discussion / Re: www.ofonebelief.org/
December 06, 2007, 02:48:06 PM
Quote from: orangeman on December 06, 2007, 01:45:36 PM
It's a them and us situation now clearly !

Could you clarify when "them" are and who "we" are?
#72
Armagh / Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
December 06, 2007, 01:16:43 PM

no, they are getting maintenance grants from the government to facilitate better training and preparation. noone gets paid to play for YOUR county. not officially anyway.

How do you now they won't donate their grants to the county training fund?

You pay the GAA all year to follow your county. armagh clg get none of that
#73
Armagh / Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
December 06, 2007, 01:01:17 PM

You are aware that the government pay the player maintenance grants?
#74
GAA Discussion / Re: Ryan Cup Final
December 06, 2007, 12:58:42 PM

That is the most self contradictory post i've ever read orangeman
#75
Armagh / Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
December 06, 2007, 12:08:15 PM
Quote from: altovito on December 06, 2007, 11:48:21 AM
asking hardworking people to give their money to help them play even though they are getting very very well looked after

where has this happened?