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Why would you want to be remembered as losers? Mayo fans should be hoping that everyone forgets about this team.

One of the best teams ever. Of course they'll be remembered, they went toe to toe with the best team ever to play the game and in any other era they'd have won multiple AI's

There were many decisions in that game that should be deeply concerning for the GAA and GAA fans. You could not credit it to a bad day at the office for Deegan, it was the willful way he ignored blatant fouling and cynicism on one hand and engaged in pure guesswork to punish innocuous contact on the other hand, all to the beneficiary of one side. The bias was not subtle, it was not hidden and there's barely been a peep about it - I've seen far better, much fairer refereeing performances been the subject of scrutiny and criticism in the past in games where it had less influence on the result.

There seems to be an element trying to hush the serious issues and grievances with Deegan. The conduct of Kerry, their players, management and ex players is regularly expunged fairly quickly in the media but with Tyrone they still bring up acts from 15 years ago. You will have the usual idiot savants like dublin7 and those regularly listing unsubstantiated claims against Tyrone but he won't look at his own county in the same light.

I'd just like a level playing field for all but it doesn't seem Tyrone will ever get that and you can guarantee if Armagh or Derry ever came back to the top table and stuck about they would soon understand. Some people from Armagh must have particularly short memories.

You are 100% correct about Deegan.  Tyrone were not the only Ulster side to come out the wrong side in the second half of a game - think back to Castlebar and Armagh Mayo game. He denied Armagh a chance to come back with his timekeeping.  At least Tyrone got 7 minutes to try to turn it around.

The problem arises when your team is beaten and you try to raise issues about the referee, it smells like sour grapes.

Ref rode us in Castlebar, even worse than he did with Tyrone vs Kerry but just like Tyrone we beat ourselves conceding soft scores and not taking our own.

When are we likely to hear more from Kerry on their players getting poisoned? They have the all ireland final to look forward to now but hopefully they will follow it up after the final and expose the scum for what they are.

A side with a history of failing dope tests citing being poisoned by the opposition, would that not set alarm bells ringing in your head?

A history of failing dope tests? Catch yourself on posting shite like that about amateur players.

[watched the match, I haven't watched it back, but I can't remember a point where I thought this ref is taking the piss..]

I watched the match, I haven't watched it back, but I can't remember a point where I thought this ref is taking the piss..

What I did noticed was Tyrone failed to pull away when they had their dominance. Kerry made the right changes and Mickey didn't act on them.

Best team won, they generally do without needing assistance from the ref. Close this thread, it's embarrassing to be honest

And very glad I was never refereed by your good self sir, if you think that Deegan's display that day is beyond reproach, seriously. Or maybe you think that wildly erratic application of the rules is just fine? 

Were they as wildly erratic as they Tyrone display in the second half?

When a team crumbles it's easy to blame the referee.

So this nonsense, right under the ref's nose, is just fine and dandy, is it?

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Aw please sir the big boy won't let me past. Ffs man up, put him on his back and get on with the game. He'll get zero sympathy because thats mild compared to Tyrones tactics.

Yes Deegan gave Kerry a couple of handy frees after half time, yes he was being an absolute tool with regards calling frees from 60 yards away and yes he could have called for fouls on Harte for off the ball stuff. But ffs Kerry were a far better team, Tyrone played their usual defensive shite, missed handy chances and gave the ball away cheaply leading to Kerry scores. At the end of the day Peter Harte is one of Tyrones best players, teams are obviously going to look to nullify him however they can, (like Tyrone have done plenty of times to the likes of the Gooch) but thats where Harte should have been putting O'Sullivan on his arse or if hes not fit to one of the other lads should have, rather than crying looking frees. Tyrone got what they deserved from that game regardless of the ref.

Cluxton
McMenamin-McNamee-???
Durcan-Boyle-McCaffrey
Fenton-Moran/Murphy
O'Shea-Con O'C- O'Brien
Clifford-McShane-Mannion

Stephen O'Brien cleared to play.
Successfully appealed Black Card against Meath.

That was a ridiculous black card to be fair

Black cards are ridiculous. Will common  sense come into play and we get the return of yellow and red cards only?

That'll be the day!!

Tyrone aren't as cynical as they used to be, but they have a reputation based on previous years that they cant shake unfortunately. Before the black card Tyrone were masters of the dark arts and for me the most cynical team in the country. They'd get in front and from about 15 min from the end start dragging down players, going down injured or doing anything to kill the pace of the game and stop the oppostion gaining any momentum.

You also had various incidents at under age in a short space of time  involving Tyrone were I think at u21 level an opposition manager refused to shake hands with Tyrone manager because of the verbal abuse aimed at his players and a separate incident were a Tyrone player was accused of sledging an opponent about his Dad dying!!!

Theres a balance to all these things. Nice boys win sweet feck all and in championship football you need to be a nasty bastard and a cute hoor and all the rest of if but obviously that sort of personal verbal abuse is over the line.

gavin crowley hit his own man on the back of the head and told him to go down holding his head lol.

Noticed that too. Literally pushed his own player to the ground and immediately signalled to the ref it was a head injury.

Had a laugh at that one alright.

[Cork]

1. Dublin
2. Tyrone/Kerry
3. Mayo
4. Cork/Donegal/Roscommon

That's how it is.

I wouldn't be rating them up that high. Relegated to Div 3 and only championship wins this summer was v Laois and Limerick.

Gave Dublin their closest game of the year. I'd have Donegal ahead of either though.

Jesus Christ. You'd swear these Dubs were invincible robots the way people go on about them. They're only men ffs. Flesh and blood same as you and me. This invincible aura is leaving teams beat before they start, its like the great Kilkenny, Crossmaglen or even Manchester United teams, the opposition have shite the togs before a ball is thrown in. At the end of the day its 15 on 15, Kerry and Mayo know this, Mayo should have beaten this team twice in All Ireland finals and Kerry won't fear them one bit. May not be this year but Kerry will get the better of this Dublin team and show that they are human after all.

Top 4 = semifinalists obviously.

Not with the qualifier system, Tyrone had a handy run and a handy group - Donegal hammered them in the Ulster Semi.

Which team who didn't get to the semi finals are better

The team that beat Tyrone i'd say but got the harder group.

Look at the last few years. Tyrone are one of the top 4 teams. At least

Not an awful pile to chose between the 4 teams below Dublin but I'd rate Tyrone the weakest of 4. All capable of beating each other though, pity we couldn't play an All Ireland without the Dubs it would be some competition.

cant believe anyone is saying mayo should drop o'connor. who cares if he is aggressive? there are no shrinking violets on that dublin team or any intercounty football team. mayo have been way too soft in past years, they need characters like o'connor

He should be dropped due to his lack of quality as a forward who can't score points from play.

You didn't see the game the other day then? O'Connor is a very very good forward.

Mcshane much bigger influence than Clifford today. Not sure how well he will do in the final either - might not see much ball.

True, but Clifford being double marked, barely saw him but almost anytime he got the ball it was a score

[athleticism]

time for harte to step down time for a fresh face

I'd say Harte is getting fair mileage out of the group he has. They're limited enough.

True. Only a few decent footballers on the team but how much of that is down to Harte's focus on athleticism over skill.

Could make a case that "modern" day football has a focus on that.

Need a balance. Look at the Dubs. Pure athletes and ballers.