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You must have a very blinkered management and a very weak county board.

Whenever the GAA is pandering to mercenaries like Farrell and O'Cusack instead listening to principled men like Mark Conway it's plain to see why we are on the slippery slope.

Who is it for to decide which is which?

Never heard of him until last week but he seems like a bit of a drama queen. He's certainly gotten himself the maximum exposure out of this.

Sorts of proves this point I made, doesn't it Marsden!

Mark never seeked money for his work, nor did he seek adulation for what he did. He did this, because of his love for the GAA. A lot of so-called GAA men and women would do well to look at the example that Mark has set and forget all about this rubbish from the GPA. For Mark is a GAA man and Dessie is a money.

He didn't produce much of a concerted effort to change what he disagreed from within the association, did he? It took the GPA 5 years to negotiate and cajole their way to what they've achieved.

Never heard of him until last week but he seems like a bit of a drama queen. He's certainly gotten himself the maximum exposure out of this.

Obviously the nayesayers have PR all on their side already so i really don't see the reasoning. but desperate times and all that...

Is there a difference between pay for play and pay for train?

As soon as i saw the name of this thread i thought to myself "there's gonna be a whole lot of easy posts on this one". it'd be far more pertinent at the end of the year to see how many of those who qualified for the grant turned it down.

A GOOD friend of mine has already been offered double his grant total if he will turn it down officially and say publicly its because he feels it's against the ethos of the GAA.

The point, which unsurprisingly has been missed, is that the gpa have no control over the actions of croke park. so whats the point lambasting the gpa for croker's actions?

god give me strength

"i know IC players who are unemployed, some by choice, some not."
Name names or belt up.
Will getting paid mean their dole is docked?

CIARA, PETER, PAUL... ANY particular names?

that's a ringing endorsement coming from you

No, but there are very few of the school yard posts here actually releent. for example, lambasting the gpa because of the actions of croke park is the height of supidity.

posters, you in particular, have made great hay out of the notion the IC players alone receive some sort of outstanding hand out from the GAA community. it's nonsense of course.

McConville had money at the time because he paid no bills he's paying those bills now. how many people with leased bars are minting it?

You'd have to ask those individual players who don't need it what they'll do with it. how do you assess who does?

i know IC players who are unemployed, some by choice, some not. If you try really hard you might understand that noone is going to have unemployed broadcast as their job for reasons of self worth. stupidity can be objective.

They'll all just swap places

This thread is a laughably incoherent jumble of nayesayers jumping on the most recent anti gpa thought. reasoned debate about the issues is very limited and soon washed away by the next orangeman or shamateur gael declaring that dessie is a bollox.

Oisin McConville was handed a pub to run because of his Celeb status. 

You better check yur facts there. He was offered the opportunity to lease the pub. big difference.

I think it amounts to the same thing but that hardly matters, the lease was offered to him because of his Celeb status and he made plenty of money out of it because of his celeb status. 

Are you saying there aren't players in the GAA who have their jobs because of their involvement in the GAA and players who's businesses are very successful because of their involvement in the GAA?

He made plenty of money out of it? if i knew how to do a smiley face i would. it runed him.

Certainly there are IC players who get a foot in the door for jobs more easily because of the GAA. There are also a tiny percentage who E2000 a year will make no diffrence to.
however far more relevently the overwhelming majority get receive no help in this regard and for whom E2000 this coming year will make a huge difference to their standard of living.

It hasn't been mentioned that IC players aren't the only members who benefit from the GAA network. we all know sharp tradesmen who can use the football chat to get the right contract that next man can't.