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#46
GAA Discussion / Re: Assaults at GAA games
November 07, 2023, 12:46:54 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 07, 2023, 12:34:22 PMTechnical foul outside the box is a free, if defender picks up ball in the small square penalty.. That should be easy enough to work out and those closest would have seen that?

So it was either a free or a penalty, why did the Tullamore lads complain if it was the correct call?

The Referee lost the run of himself in that he gave a free, then spoke to umpires and gave a penalty, then linesman intervened and he changed back to a free which was the right call. ( or something like that going by what i have read). They obviously complained because they though they were going to get a chance to win the game and then it was took away from them and emotions got the better of them.

#47
GAA Discussion / Re: Assaults at GAA games
November 07, 2023, 12:29:01 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 07, 2023, 12:22:37 PMI think the only thing to worry about here is about awarding the correct decision, and if after consulting the other officials who were better placed, and got the correct decision then what is the fuss about?

The player was either fouled outside the box or inside it...

The ref would have been hammered by the other team if he gave the 'wrong' decision

I'm not sure the statement above reflects the correct call by the referee and his team.

That said, I haven't seen the footage, but have read reports from others saying it was the right call..

Going forward, the ref should have blown for a free, made his way to the incident, talked immediately to his umpires and linesmen and then make a call on whether it was inside or out, it would have at least shifted any blame on him and put it solely on the player that fouled

It wasn't a foul on a player the ball was picked of the ground.
#48
GAA Discussion / Re: Ulster Club IFC/JFC 2023
November 06, 2023, 09:43:42 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on November 06, 2023, 09:23:10 AM
Quote from: Cavan19 on November 06, 2023, 08:37:33 AM
Quote from: clarshack on November 05, 2023, 04:46:03 PMStewartstown were fortunate enough to beat Drumlane who knocked out Arva last season and Stewartstown were only in Junior due to Covid. Just can't see the Cavan champions getting caught out this year.

Will next year too see Knockbride playing in Division 1 having won the Division 2 Final and playing in the Junior Championship?

Yep they should walk Junior next year now that Arva are out of it.

The Junior clubs in Cavan will be glad to see the back of those two and things should start to level off from now on.
Did covid make a balls of the whole thing?

It had nothing to do with Covid.

They relegated two teams back a few years ago to even up the grades and do away with bye rounds. The last few years there have been at least two very strong teams in the Junior Championship. Drumlane won it last year and got to the Ulster final but would not have been a team many would have picked to get out of Cavan.  Knockbride have been trying to get out of Junior a good few years but are not producing come the business end of the championship. They got promoted to Division 1 this year but were playing Division 3 league last year.

Arva lost a lot of players who went travelling and Ciaran Brady had a bad injury and they went from Senior to Junior. All the players are back now and a lot of those lads are at their peak now as well. They are a serious outfit and will be one of the favorites for intermediate next year in Cavan. 

All the Junior clubs in Cavan will want Knockbride to win it next year as it will open it up and the real Junior clubs will have a chance of winning it from then on.
#49
GAA Discussion / Re: Ulster Club IFC/JFC 2023
November 06, 2023, 08:37:33 AM
Quote from: clarshack on November 05, 2023, 04:46:03 PMStewartstown were fortunate enough to beat Drumlane who knocked out Arva last season and Stewartstown were only in Junior due to Covid. Just can't see the Cavan champions getting caught out this year.

Will next year too see Knockbride playing in Division 1 having won the Division 2 Final and playing in the Junior Championship?

Yep they should walk Junior next year now that Arva are out of it.

The Junior clubs in Cavan will be glad to see the back of those two and things should start to level off from now on.
#50
General discussion / Re: East wall #Irelandisfull
October 27, 2023, 10:21:26 AM
Quote from: Deerstalker on October 27, 2023, 10:20:09 AMDidn't Michael Martin reckon some Ukrainians are bypassing other countries to arrive in the south due to a more generous welfare system ?

Ireland the land of 1000 welcomes.
#51
General discussion / Re: The IRISH RUGBY thread
October 20, 2023, 12:26:41 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on October 20, 2023, 11:38:05 AM
Quote from: JPGJOHNNYG on October 20, 2023, 11:34:21 AMSexton was yapping because he was told not to miss the plane home tomorrow and enjoy the retirement, but everyone assumed it was because he was a sore loser. Nothing worse than being a bad winner. NZ deserved to win but win graciously and move on don't be dicks about it.

Ach sure it was great craic when O'Mahoney was calling Cane a "shit McCaw" but don't say a word to offend our lads...



Exactly when the shoe is on the other foot it is great craic.
#52
Quote from: RedHand88 on October 02, 2023, 04:56:54 PM
Quote from: Cavan19 on October 02, 2023, 02:38:43 PMDont know what all the fuss is about they didn't draw the lines at the time but i have gone to the trouble to do it using MS paint and he was clearly offside.



Look you've even done the VAR screen and all  ;D 10/10 for effort. Who do you work for? Is Monday a day off?

It only took about 30 seconds it's a great piece of technology to ensure correct decisions are made  ;D 
#53
Dont know what all the fuss is about they didn't draw the lines at the time but i have gone to the trouble to do it using MS paint and he was clearly offside.

#54
Quote from: johnnycool on September 06, 2023, 07:56:48 AM
I see some counties have gotten themselves in a bit of bother in deciding the rankings when 3 teams are on equal points in a round robin based championship;

https://www.msn.com/en-ie/sports/football/appeal-against-meath-s-score-difference-rule-faces-fresh-scrutiny/ar-AA1ghZRb?ocid=winp1taskbar&cvid=e625fc709b2f4f3fa8dea3e06a3148ac&ei=10

Appeal against Meath's score difference rule faces fresh scrutiny

The application of which score difference mechanism should be used to determine which team finishes higher when three or more are tied on the same points in a championship or league division group faces fresh scrutiny in two provinces.

Meath County Board is taking a case to the Central Appeals Committee challenging a Leinster Council decision to order a refixture after Na Fianna challenged the mechanism Meath used to determine the second-placed team in their four-team SFC group.

The group was won by Dunshaughlin on six points with three other teams tied on two points, but Donaghmore-Ashbourne were declared second on the basis of score difference superiority that included games involving all four teams in the group. That was consistent with what was in Meath's bye-laws.

But Leinster hearings found "ambiguity" in the application and recommended that Donaghmore-Ashbourne and Na Fianna should play off to see who advances to quarter-finals or drops into a relegation play-off.

Na Fianna argued that the rule passed at Congress in February, put forward by Tipperary club Burgess, should apply instead whereby score difference calculated from the games between the tied teams only should apply which put them ahead of Donaghmore-Ashbourne.

This conflict is also at the centre of Sixmilebridge's case with a Munster hearings committee, after their exit from the Clare SHC.


As a matter of interest what do the various other counties do in this regard?

Cavan Junior Champiosnhip is some mess they are not using scoring difference and 4 teams are tied in 6th, 7th 8th and 9th.

They put all the teams in a hat and the first two out are playing off for 6th place. The other two play off for 7th place.

The two defetated teams are then playing off for 8th with and the loser out of the championship.

The prize for the teams finishing 7th and 8th is to play Arva and Knockbride who are two Division 1 teams which is another conversation  ::)

Both these teams finished joint top and they tossed a coin to see who would take spot 1 and 2.

So in short positions were sorted by coin toss and by drawing names out  of a hat !! 



#55
GAA Discussion / Re: RG at arms length
August 25, 2023, 12:33:01 PM
Quote from: the goal was on on August 25, 2023, 11:51:52 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 25, 2023, 11:45:29 AM
He is finished in the GAA, no one would touch him now at this stage.

Apart from Derry and Corduff!

Is Banty giving him a few quid?
#56
Quote from: JoG2 on August 24, 2023, 09:00:23 AM
Post Covid it's hard to get a taxi home after a night out, puts alot of people off heading into towns / cities for a night out.

It's a big problem i know lots who don't bother going out now unless they have a lift arranged to get them home.
#57
Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on August 16, 2023, 01:02:28 AM
Quote from: J70 on August 15, 2023, 12:06:04 AM
Quote from: Armamike on August 14, 2023, 10:47:05 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on August 14, 2023, 06:42:00 PM
Almost 1 billion spent since Boehly took over Chelsea.

They are also in talks with Michael Olise

It won't last. He'll eventually stop flashing the cash.  They're potentially causing themselves a lot of financial and player issues for years to come.

How many players have they put on these eight year deals?

What happens when some of them inevitably don't work out and they have to offload those ludicrous contracts?

Reminds of the NY Knicks over the past 20 years, although in the case of the NBA, there is a salary cap which means that bad choices such as those the Knicks front office continually makes will doom the team to irrelevancy and being the joke of the league. Whereas in football, FFP is the joke.

Knicks have actually been decent the past couple of years.  Not good enough to win it, but might make ECF with a favorable run.

Chelsea don't care they will ship off any players who are not fitting in off to their funders in Saudi for stupid money to try and keep within FPP.
#58
General discussion / Re: Teachers get it handy!
August 16, 2023, 09:58:14 AM
Quote from: trailer on August 16, 2023, 09:43:06 AM
Couldn't pay me to do a wet trade and anyone with an ounce of sense wants nothing to do with that kind of work. Technology and a change in building techniques will make a lot of trades obsolete. Only a matter of time till your architect gives the drawing to a machine and it stiches your wooden frame house together. More and more work will become automated. AI and automation, that's where it's all headed.

This is the future now for building blocks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGBRA24qlEg

#59
General discussion / Re: East wall #Irelandisfull
August 11, 2023, 11:26:48 AM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on August 11, 2023, 11:03:05 AM
Quote from: whitey on August 11, 2023, 01:16:52 AM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on August 11, 2023, 12:43:27 AM
Quote from: whitey on August 11, 2023, 12:41:08 AM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on August 10, 2023, 11:16:01 PM
Quote from: whitey on August 10, 2023, 12:17:29 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on August 09, 2023, 11:17:37 PM
Quote from: whitey on August 09, 2023, 06:21:34 PM
So let's try this again (for the third time)

Are you guys in favor of open borders? (Unlimited inward migration)

Yes or no?

If yes-that's great!

If no-how many should Ireland take annually?

Follow up question

Are the 75% of people in the SBP who thought Ireland had taken in too many refugees racists/bigots/xenophobes?

https://www.businesspost.ie/politics/three-quarters-of-people-think-ireland-taking-in-too-many-refugees/


3 very simple questions. No need to change the subject or twist yourselves into knots?

You surely have more to say on the subject than you've said so far
Not in favour of open border policy. Not sure what number can be accommodated tbh but don't think it's excessive at the minute. And I think we should absolutely be doing our bit to help.
Can you give a breakdown of how many has come in, how many deported, how many awaiting decisions etc. if we have the figures then it might be easier to make informed decisions.

I'll do a little research and get back to you.  I want to make sure I'm putting up accurate data

You see I don't understand that. I had assumed because you were so annoyed about it, you knew the facts and that made the basis of your annoyance? Would that not be the normal way of operating?

I actually was actually in the middle of doing the research and then after reading some of the additional posts on here, I realized that whatever I came up with wouldn't make a blind bit of difference to the zealots on here.

You could probably summarize this thread as " agree with us or you're a racist"

75-85% of people polled (SBP/IT) expressed concern at the number of refugees or thought that we had taken more than we should have.

Think about that for a moment-75-85% of people think we need to hit the pause button, but according to a many of the posters on here they might as well be wearing white crosses and attend cross burnings

Keep in mind a large proportion of the refugees/asylum seekers are white Europeans
Forget about polls. What figure caused you to think there is a "replacement" going on?

I never posted that

Someone else did

I'm actually all in favor of diversity as long as it's managed correctly and people (migrants) are given the resources to succeed and get ahead.

There is tremendous anger in rural Ireland at topics ranging from the lack of Gardai, NCT appointments, Hospital Beds, School Places.

There's no money for anything, yet there seems to be unlimited money (at least that's peoples perception) to take care of refugees and asylum seekers- some of  whom are flat out scammers

No one can get planning permission to build a house on their own lane or put on an addition, yet the authorities can repurpose/re-zone  commercial buildings into residential accomadation at the stroke of a pen with no planning permission required

Then you hear that only 10%-20% of people who were served with deportation orders actually left the country. Complete and utter madness

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/majority-of-deportation-orders-not-carried-out-government-paper-reveals-1447810.html

Its complete and utter madness what's going on and anyone who says so is now a racist and a bigot and a cvnt of some description

550 odd people served deportation papers last year with 248 already out of Ireland. The majority of the papers are historical. https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-41102707.html

Looks like we're improving on the deportations rather than getting worse. Plus the no money thing doesn't stack up given the surplus. You're trying to tie the two together to force a link when the reality is different.

I'll ask if 250 odd people in a year that haven't left yet really an issue on resources?

So again, what is the actual figure that has you annoyed? Not rural Ireland, nor a poll. What was the straw that broke you to think Ireland has an open border policy.

He has likely gone down rabbit holes online where lots of misinformation is posted and the less intelligent take it as gospel.
#60
General discussion / Re: East wall #Irelandisfull
August 10, 2023, 02:30:24 PM
Quote from: Itchy on August 10, 2023, 02:17:21 PM
Quote from: whitey on August 10, 2023, 01:22:28 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 10, 2023, 12:58:10 PM
Ok what country has an open borders policy and what has this got to do with refugees and 2 million people

Never answer a question with a question

Sinn Fein, PBP and I assume the SDs have a defacto open border policies

Anyone any everyone can come in and you can't /won't be deported once you are here even if served with a deportation order

People who miracously  get on a plane in another country but land at Dublin Airport without papers

People from "safe " countries

People who transit through safe countries.....maybe 5 or 6 countries in a row to claim asylum/refugee status

People like the SD election candidate who got denied in the UK and then landed here and applied again and lied and lied and lied some more

It's a joke and the Irish taxpayers need their heads examined to be funding this fraud

You realise dumbo that Ireland is in the EU and therefore must take its fair share as an EU state. Do you think if there are a million refugees from Ukraine that they should all be houses by Poland as thats the nearest country. Is that fair? Like I said before, being an adopted Yank you dont have a clue whats going on here in Ireland.

Most don't have problems with the Ukrainians its the ones with different skin colour that seem to be the problem.