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Don't think theres much shame in losing to last years champs, maybe shame in the style of play the entire league campain, but losing to cork, in cork, was expected, even the diehards have to agree. 

Roll on the championship, i only hope por has a game plan, apart from his current one, which seems to be putting the down faithfull in a false sense of security 

Would it be weird to assume the harps have problems that stem deeper than the ogs result on thursday?  Iv heard quite a few senior players have left,

Jp Donnelly being the most famous example, would have been the lynchpin of the harps back line, and general old head leader the harps may now crave after Collie Holmes retired. 

All in all, i think the harps have bigger problems than getting a major beat down which counts for nothing.  Well, except pride 

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[they have better defenders than anyone]

Forwards coach now?

People are losing the plot.

Armagh have 3 county standard forwards. One is injured and may never be seen again. One is on club duty. That leaves just one.

That's not POR's fault. You can't make average players into county forwards no matter what you do with them.

Some of our orchard brethren need to wake up and smell the apples. You could get Mick O Dwyer and Mickey Harte in charge of this Armagh team, and allow them to spend hundreds of thousands on coaches, physios, and everything else - and they still wouldn't get past an AI semi final. The players aren't there. But even despite POR, they could make a quarter final this year.

Get realistic chaps.

Wobbler that's a very lazy analysis for a normally insightful poster.

Armagh have the players. they have better defenders than anyone and they have forwards with the potential to be very potent. they are not organised and they have no gameplan. If they were they would comfortably be a top 8 team - this year.

POR has regressed a lot of players individually and lessened the worth of the sum of the parts. this team were ulster champions in 2008, dealing comfortably with this down team.

As they say in tennis,

new balls please

I can see were duffleking is coming from but to call them "the 6 best defenders in the country" is laughable.  The majority of armaghs 6 defenders against down have quality and credentials and have shown that at the top stage!

mallon, mc keever, duffy, moriarty all ireland u21 winners. 
Donaghy ireland aussie rules team
Dyas, drafted to the afl

To say that these players are not of the highest standard is laughable, time may be needed for them to adapt and gel together!

Forgive me for presumming the criticism does spawn from this year, after all we are posting on the down vs armagh page(reading through posts most references are made about armaghs 2 defeats), not the POR should be axed page .  If these matches were won would we even be having this conversation??  But fair due, last years championship was a bit of an anti-climax with that hiding by Monaghan, and blame should be put towards management!


My mistake regards mallon, assumed he marked brogan (missed match ), after all the lack of natural corner backs in the county could a could only assume... the point im getting at is that it even a player of mallons standard will slip up, nobodys perfect 100%!

Are people actually serious here?? 2 narrow defeats to, arguably, 2 of the top 3 teams in Irealand last year and POR is getting a bollocking for it! Sum people need to realise that little fact before the crucification begins. 

As regard to andy getting "skint alot this last while", the poor fella's usually assigned the task of marking the oppisition best players.  I feel that not 1 player in the country could contain the likes of brogan when hes being supplied with countless oppertunities! 

Finally, the Ciarian mc Keever issue.  Hes a first class dickhead! But we should take solace in the fact that hes are dickhead, he gets in players heads and on their nerves.  Id rather see him playing chb for the orchard than anybody else!

P.S., if and when the 2 clarkes return i could almost guarentee these close encounters will sway are way (am pretty confident them boys could muster together a few scores )

oh ye of little faith!!  A can assume that por knows what he's playing at on the sideline and that all the preperation are for the sole purpose of when down travel to armagh in may (giving grugan experiance now).  I agree that toner needs a solid midfield partner to shift the responsibilty in the fielding department (possibly the younger duffy from the ogs)  Armagh are the underdogs for this match, a tag which they have carried on numerous occasions and would suit them down to the ground!  Armagh aint done yet!

Intresting debate going on here! Imo both teams are equal in terms of squad quality, a think posters are mistakeing bothg teams achilles heel's for bad players!  Honestly at the moment down would have the pick of the players (Clarke and Coulter would walk onto any county setup) but armagh always have that resilience to grind out results when they need to.  Hopefully it will set the stage for the real contest come the summer. 

Armagh to steal it at the death