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This takes the biscuit for the most idiotic and pea-brained thread on the discussion board. Please claim your award by visiting the nearest mental health institution who will deal with you accordingly.

[suits their current age]

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/se%C3%A1n-moran-tipperary-s-proven-stalwarts-have-done-the-county-some-service-1.4638231

Maybe Liam Sheedy will stay on but, if he does, there is a major rebuild to be done. Within seven days of each other, they and Galway exited the championship against Waterford. Together with Kilkenny the three counties dominated hurling in the past decade.
They did so playing a traditional, orthodox game, relying on power and strength under the dropping ball and the artistry of their forwards. Tipp in particular with their touch, movement and lethal accuracy.
That time appears to be gone and replaced by the fast-transfer game and relentlessly hard running at the opposition defence – of which Waterford are exemplars.

The body can only take so much, that hard running at players involves a lot of impact, a few players looked to have taken some hits for Waterford last weekend, you can only take so much, the recover time is very limited.

I expect Limerick to get through and face Cork!!

Limerick and to a lesser extent Waterford are direct runners, happy to go into contact and offload to a runner off the shoulder, Cork are different, they avoid contact and that probably suits their current age and physique team profile.

Kilkenny love and thrive on the physicality, less so chasing shadows..

Cork have the youngest average age out of the 4.

11 days out from probably the biggest game for Tyrone since the '08 final.

What about the all Ireland final in 2018

Agreed. Harte seemed to have lost that "all or nothing" tool from his arsenal in his later years. It was almost like his courage dwindled with every passing year.

2018 was strange as no one expected anything other than a Dublin win. Ironically tyrone done very well for the first 15 mins but once Dublin for the goal around the 20 min mark it was game over. I still have the image of tryone being down by about 4-6 points in the 2nd half with all Tyrone players in their own half bar Colm Cavanagh standing on the half way line willing tyrone to push forward to no avail.

Yes and the one man who came out and thumped the ball into the Dublin area was Morgan   It what was needed at that time and he obviously was frustrated his teammates lack of urgency

Yip. When tyrone did pump the ball in colm I think scored 1-1 from it. Tyrone didn't do it enough. For me that was ehe I I decided mickey needed to go. Poor negative game plan, defending a loss is ridiculous. If you are losing in the final 15 mins you may as well go all out attack. Getting beat by 1 point or 16 points is still the same

11 days out from probably the biggest game for Tyrone since the '08 final.

What about the all Ireland final in 2018

Darren McCurry wasn't cooking the country up that year... I have faith in big Dazzler

[risk indoors especially for those people not fully vaccinated]

Thousands, or even tens of thousands of people, outside watching a sports event is probably not a big risk. Standing around talking to people before or after a game, in a pub or elsewhere is probably a much bigger risk.

It is a much bigger risk indoors especially for those people not fully vaccinated. For now watching a match outdoor is the way to go. Kerry have shown the way already if you aren't attending the match.

If you are not vaccinated by now surely you aren't at risk?

11 days out from probably the biggest game for Tyrone since the '08 final.

Beggan deserved that all Star

Completely irrelevant comment

Draw game.

Beggan is superb; matched the Cluxton template and then augmented it

How?

A few musings.

We were very good in the first half but Monaghan lacked intensity and Tyrone players had time to run and break lines. The Monaghan game plan was all about stopping McCurry. Two men marshalling him at all times. Problem is it left space for others. Even though McCurry was well marked he kept them busy with intelligent runs and game play.

Monaghan of course were a different animal in 2nd half. Pushing up and squeezing Tyrone. Tyrone didn't have many answers, but kicking it long was an option that nearly provided a few goal chances. This will be good practice for what Kerry will do.

The Goalkeeping one is interesting. Morgan and Beggan occupying the space was a great tactic. Morgan for the most part had a very good game, but missing two very similar 45s was criminal. His KOs were for the most part very good and helped to keep ball well at the end to see out the game.
Frees. Anything in McCurry range left or right he should take. Donnelly and McShane missed two very scoreable frees. At this level those are critical. That's 4 points that we can't afford to really give up.

McShane obviously rusty. Felt he was just too casual. He needs to sharpen up.
McGeary had another great game, Logan and Dooher have obviously turned him into a footballer.
Meyler gets through lots of work, but again his footballing skills are lacking. Some poor decisions and passes. He must offer more.
Sludden was brilliant. A real attacking HB with great energy.
Two MFs did well and Tyrone probably edged that battle.
McCurry was fantastic. Marked within an inch of his life he kept them constantly guessing. A real Rolls Royce player.
McKenna and Harte were both quiet. Hoping we get more out of them next time.

There is a lot of positives. Winning an Ulster in their 1st year is a great achievement for this management team. Beat the two other best sides on the way.
They did play a lot of good football. I've enjoyed watching them evolve and get better. Will we win an AI? Probably not but we're playing with a bit more jizz and it's great change from the previous regime.

McCurry missed a very scoreable free too yesterday and has missed them in the past also.

i hope you're not referring to his effort which was from outside the 45 out of the hands on his weaker side.. as that definitely wasn't a scoreable one and if only Morgan had his shooting boots on that would've been perfect range for what should've been his 3rd point, stick Beggan in that Tyrone team and we're guaranteed another 3/4 points a game

McKenna was awful on Saturday in my opinion, he just didn't look like he knew what to do or what his role was. would love to see Canavan come in vs Kerry, can see him doing damage, there's 1 position up for grabs already with Michael o'neill definitely (finally) losing his place. would love to see Richie in around midfield as i feel like we are lacking experience in there, definitely a few positions up for grabs in the semi final, managers have some thinking to do now, game is there to be won if we perform to our capabilities and frustrate Kerry

Finally Scruffy Oneill seems to have lost his spot. Has been holding Tyrone back past couple of years. Player with zero talent and awareness. Good riddance.

You'd assume on the Friday night then? Surely they won't fix Junior league games on the Saturday to clash with the 1st All Ireland semi?

Next two rounds of the Junior football league are fixed for Sunday 8th (2.15 & 3.45 pm) and Saturday 14th August (4.00 & 5.30pm).

Bit strange that is it not?

I know there isn't any county players in DIV 3 at the minute and im pretty sure there is no Dublin or Mayo players playing either...

[missed them in the past also]

A few musings.

We were very good in the first half but Monaghan lacked intensity and Tyrone players had time to run and break lines. The Monaghan game plan was all about stopping McCurry. Two men marshalling him at all times. Problem is it left space for others. Even though McCurry was well marked he kept them busy with intelligent runs and game play.

Monaghan of course were a different animal in 2nd half. Pushing up and squeezing Tyrone. Tyrone didn't have many answers, but kicking it long was an option that nearly provided a few goal chances. This will be good practice for what Kerry will do.

The Goalkeeping one is interesting. Morgan and Beggan occupying the space was a great tactic. Morgan for the most part had a very good game, but missing two very similar 45s was criminal. His KOs were for the most part very good and helped to keep ball well at the end to see out the game.
Frees. Anything in McCurry range left or right he should take. Donnelly and McShane missed two very scoreable frees. At this level those are critical. That's 4 points that we can't afford to really give up.

McShane obviously rusty. Felt he was just too casual. He needs to sharpen up.
McGeary had another great game, Logan and Dooher have obviously turned him into a footballer.
Meyler gets through lots of work, but again his footballing skills are lacking. Some poor decisions and passes. He must offer more.
Sludden was brilliant. A real attacking HB with great energy.
Two MFs did well and Tyrone probably edged that battle.
McCurry was fantastic. Marked within an inch of his life he kept them constantly guessing. A real Rolls Royce player.
McKenna and Harte were both quiet. Hoping we get more out of them next time.

There is a lot of positives. Winning an Ulster in their 1st year is a great achievement for this management team. Beat the two other best sides on the way.
They did play a lot of good football. I've enjoyed watching them evolve and get better. Will we win an AI? Probably not but we're playing with a bit more jizz and it's great change from the previous regime.

McCurry missed a very scoreable free too yesterday and has missed them in the past also.

So has every forward in Ireland?

Foolish in my opinion. I dont see the point in sending your keeper up when a defender has to stay back on the line to cover. I can understand the moving up to cover space for an opposition kickout, but soloing into the opponents half to take a shot, not for me.

I agree. Media after the game was getting on my nerves. He didn't contribute to Monaghan by coming that far outfield at all. Nearly cost them 2 goals, 1st one was a good recovery challenge on Mattie Donnelly (who shouldn't have been getting caught by a keeper) and the second the ball spilled between 2 tyrone players and 1 monaghan player. It was lucky to fall to the Monaghan player. There are things creeping into the GAA that simply aren't right. These keepers who are coming miles off their line as well as the diving. The amount of times players go down now and grab their heads even though they weren't touched their is scary.

Noticed that alot in the tyrone v monghan game. I counted at least 4 monaghan players going down holding their head without any contact. Mcmanus done it after getting hit on the arm as soon as he went down he held his head.

Years ago McCann rightly got massive stick for it now its an acceptable part of the game apparently. Disgraceful really

It is not like it is coming through the youth. The young are taught to play with the heart on their sleeves and with some pride for the jersey. The diving is an inter-county thing. I fear that it is being deployed as a tactic for certain counties - I hope I'm wrong!

Foolish in my opinion. I dont see the point in sending your keeper up when a defender has to stay back on the line to cover. I can understand the moving up to cover space for an opposition kickout, but soloing into the opponents half to take a shot, not for me.

I agree. Media after the game was getting on my nerves. He didn't contribute to Monaghan by coming that far outfield at all. Nearly cost them 2 goals, 1st one was a good recovery challenge on Mattie Donnelly (who shouldn't have been getting caught by a keeper) and the second the ball spilled between 2 tyrone players and 1 monaghan player. It was lucky to fall to the Monaghan player. There are things creeping into the GAA that simply aren't right. These keepers who are coming miles off their line as well as the diving. The amount of times players go down now and grab their heads even though they weren't touched their is scary.

Folks,

Was the tactics Monaghan's Rory Beggan used on Saturday foolish or effective?