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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTQQa1djtF8

Cynical stuff by Monaghan around 7:35 here.

Well done , had to laugh watching that clip

Stone Wall Penalty,  referee hadnt the gahunas to give it , home town decision

So the conclusion by most is Mayo are sh ite.

Now I very rarely post anything truthful but let me say this much , Mayo are shit e.

It's surely a pointless exercise typing mayos results since Horan took over, sure ye know them. SF and two finals, etc etc to prove they're not sh ite?

Ye can analyse and over analyse till the cows come home but the long and short of it is simple, there is only one team in Ireland at present capable of beating Dublin.

If you are looking for capable sides Mayo would be in the same bracket as Tyrone,Donegal,Cork,Kerry in my opinion and its not known yet if Mayo will be at level they were last year.

Some neutral supporters will always see Mayo as the Jimmy White of GAA and even though Jimmy had a habit of losing big finals like Mayo nobody thought White was shite. Law of average would suggest Mayo should win senior All Ireland eventually however the clock is ticking on this Mayo side and the manner of the last two All Ireland final defeats has legs,minds become weary and has the boat sailed for this Mayo panel?

I'd tend to disagree with you on a few things there, Donegal and Tyrone would not be teams I'd consider a threat to Dublin . Tyrone looked very ropey v down first game and down were quite frankly rubbish . Donegal seem to be getting a lot of applause for winning at Celtic park , I'd have serious reservations about Donegal , Derry were woeful at the back in second half.

It's all very early doors and we are all still unsure if truth be told.

Can dublin be beat? Yes.

Can Mayo make it back to another final? Yes

Are Kerry finished?

Are cork capable of producing 70 mins of what they served up in first half only in league semi v dubs?

Could Mayo collapse and lose to Ross through pure exhaustion ?

Everyone is sounding these questions out in their head, trying to convince herself/ himself one way or the other according to the positives of their own lot.

I'm sticking with my opinion , the only team in Ireland capable of beating Dublin is Mayo.

We will not beat the Ross though.

Problem Mayo have is they dont believe in themselves, great team, great supporters but need to visit Lourdes if they think they are going to win SAM this year

Nothing in c'ship so far to suggest any dark horse challengers. Tyrone and Donegal look quarter material at best.

Poor MayoMick 

Love Mayo as a county , great people great craic , when Donegal are beat i always shout for ya but ya keep busting my wallet

Until the curse is ended Mayo ARE going to win SHAG ALL!!!

Seem to be habitual Bridemaids and great losers which is a pity!!

Your post regarding Donegal and Tyrone appears bitter at best, they have some silverware in the bag at least



If Mayo could keep Edna  Kenny the far side of the shannon  you never know!!!!!

If they are the best person on the team at executing that skill, then its irrelevant what position they play.

It does if they take all day to take the free.

As has been pointed out you chatting a max of about 15-20 seconds extra. You'd need to be a right humpy b@astard to be giving out about that. But some people are only happy if they're complaining. Instead of enjoying the kicking you are trying really hard to find a fault.

Well i must be a grumpy bastxxd  , it really bloody annoys me FULL STOP, the quick free in to a corner forward, for him to tap the ball over is all but gone Pity

You'd prefer a tap over to a 45 of the ground? Each to their own I suppose.

teams need to mix it up a bit , i would have a pint drunk quicker than a keeper taking a free

STAY IN THEIR BOX STAY IN THEIR BOX

If they are the best person on the team at executing that skill, then its irrelevant what position they play.

It does if they take all day to take the free.

As has been pointed out you chatting a max of about 15-20 seconds extra. You'd need to be a right humpy b@astard to be giving out about that. But some people are only happy if they're complaining. Instead of enjoying the kicking you are trying really hard to find a fault.

Well i must be a grumpy bastxxd  , it really bloody annoys me FULL STOP, the quick free in to a corner forward, for him to tap the ball over is all but gone Pity

A famous dutchman man noted one time if a goalkeeper was any good he be playing out the field (talking about soccer at the time of course)

Goalkeepers have a common denominator, they are all crazy to some extent

Sure you would have to be to stand for 70 mins between 2 sticks lol lol

Keepers should stay in their BOX...like jack

[The one thing is that Tyrone have a team of All-Ireland winners knowing full well how close to the end it is all getting]

Explain why Pauld

Explain what? I guess you mean my opinion of Tyrone as I already explained my opinion on the penalties and it seems you pretty much agree.

I think Tyrone are only getting warmed up because  they always improve between the spring and summer. Also in the second game there was improved sharpness but way below the level that the individual skills of the players could produce. Harte freshened the team up and it made a big difference. Some players have moved position and are settling in to them now.

As for why I think they are the 2nd best team. Well I believe Dublin are the best. I assume most people right now would agree. After that lets look at the list - Cork, Mayo, Kerry, Derry, Donegal are the only serious contenders for Sam.

I see no reason why Tyrone is not every bit the equal of Donegal or Derry.

With Gooch gone Kerry have lost a bite that I believe effectively ends their serious challenge

Cork and Mayo are the two big possibilities. Mayo are impressive alright but how many times can they go to the well? I think cracks are already showing and frankly I can't see them maintaining it this year. Cork are not the same beast outside the South west.

Tyrone gave Dublin a ridiculous head start then totally out played them for the rest of the game. I think Tyrone have the best balance to stop Dublin.

In fairness perhaps my opinion should really be that Dublin currently have the edge on everyone else and after that Cork, Mayo and Tyrone are a chasing pack possibly with Donegal. There isn't much between them. The one thing is that Tyrone have a team of All-Ireland winners knowing full well how close to the end it is all getting and they are backing up young eager skillful players. They have a top drawer manager. In my opinion that gives them a slight edge over the rest of the chasing pack.

Mate dont want to burst your wee bubble but its been 6 years since Tyrone last won Sam, and they havent contested a final since

Ricey is gone-   he was absolutely fantastic as good as they come

Jordan -  probably one of the greatest half backs of all time

i could go on and on Mulligan Canavan Dooher McGinley Hughes etc 

I believe Tyrone should concentrate on the future, play more youth eg  Ronan O Neill , took mickey the replay to make changes

[I'd say the same oul fellas who give off about keepers kicking frees are the same oul fellas who lament the loss of the art of dead ball kicking from our game whilst giving off at lads kicking free from their hands.]

I'd say the same oul fellas who give off about keepers kicking frees are the same oul fellas who lament the loss of the art of dead ball kicking from our game whilst giving off at lads kicking free from their hands.

A lesson in the fundamentals of physics would conclude that the action of kicking a ball from the ground has less variables than from the hand therefore better practice and more efficient!!!!

With age comes experience  , my friend

PS   i aint bucket list material yet

A quick lesson in comparative advantage would suggest then it's more efficient  to get the only player on the team whose role is to kick a dead ball to practice that skill religiously, while the rest of the team concentrate on kicking from the hands?  As it's such a unique skill I think we can allow a couple of seconds per game for it. Look how long it takes in rugby - they appreciate the importance of converting these opportunities, we on the other hand, shout at our dead ball specialists to get on with it.

your comment was an argument on  the kick off the  ground v kick from the hand!!!!!

gaa is a completely different game to rugby!!!   or am i mising something

My argument is that those who are best at kicking the ball off the ground should be allowed to get on with it, if that is the goalkeeper, then so be it. It makes sense that the keeper concentrates on his dead ball kicking therefore it's hardly a stretch to develop that technique to kick at goal. My comparison with rugby is that they have specialist penalty kickers as they appreciate the importance of converting these opportunities. Can you really not see how that compares to a GAA match? If a few extra seconds is needed to watch a fella point a 50 yard free then I'm happy with that.

The clock is stopped in rugby matches by the ref not in gaa games

I would actually ban goalkeepers from kicking frees to speed up the game,  take for example Tyrone, Darren McCurry is a fantastic deadball kicker and if given the role by Mickey the confidence gained could improve his all round game

He persisted long enough with his nephew Peter who couldnt kick snow off a rope which cost them dearly against Donegal a few seasons ago

[I'd say the same oul fellas who give off about keepers kicking frees are the same oul fellas who lament the loss of the art of dead ball kicking from our game whilst giving off at lads kicking free from their hands.]

I'd say the same oul fellas who give off about keepers kicking frees are the same oul fellas who lament the loss of the art of dead ball kicking from our game whilst giving off at lads kicking free from their hands.

A lesson in the fundamentals of physics would conclude that the action of kicking a ball from the ground has less variables than from the hand therefore better practice and more efficient!!!!

With age comes experience  , my friend

PS   i aint bucket list material yet

A quick lesson in comparative advantage would suggest then it's more efficient  to get the only player on the team whose role is to kick a dead ball to practice that skill religiously, while the rest of the team concentrate on kicking from the hands?  As it's such a unique skill I think we can allow a couple of seconds per game for it. Look how long it takes in rugby - they appreciate the importance of converting these opportunities, we on the other hand, shout at our dead ball specialists to get on with it.

your comment was an argument on  the kick off the  ground v kick from the hand!!!!!

gaa is a completely different game to rugby!!!   or am i mising something

I'd say the same oul fellas who give off about keepers kicking frees are the same oul fellas who lament the loss of the art of dead ball kicking from our game whilst giving off at lads kicking free from their hands.

A lesson in the fundamentals of physics would conclude that the action of kicking a ball from the ground has less variables than from the hand therefore better practice and more efficient!!!!

With age comes experience  , my friend

PS   i aint bucket list material yet

Cluxton jogs up to his 45's and it probably adds about 10-15 seconds. But that is not the end of the world. But I disagree about Morgan. He is out of his goals the second the umpire raises his arm. I don't think Morgan holds up things hardly at all.

For Morgan's first 45 on Saturday evening, there was a lapse of exactly 50 seconds between the ball going out and Morgan kicking the ball. I got bored after that.

yip slows the game down and its pretty pathetic that an intercounty footballer cant kick a ball of air over from 40 odd metres

Just shows how some of the skill are not being coached properly

Cluxton took  70 odd seconds in the AI FINAL IN 2011 and the ref did add any time   A  JOKE

http://www.breakingnews.ie/discover/incredible-accuracy-in-45-challenge-from-club-footballer-631931.html

Top class kicking,  its my pet hate watching a goalie hit frees , watch Morgan and Cluxton they take forever to hit a free

Slows the game down, also a poor sign of a forward line and an outfield team if none can kick a free!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jaysus its not that hard, fair play to yer man there!!!!!

I've great time for Donegal as county and it's people but let's call a spade a spade. What we witnessed yesterday was our game bastardised in its most negative form. I watched it with two 10 year olds who play and live the game. Mid 2nd half they were in the garden playing soccer.

I don't blame Jim McGuinness or players. They know their many limitations and are covering them well but let's face it. The challenge for the GAA is to develop our rules to ensure the game remains the competitive spectacle that it can be attractive to young players. I hate Rugby league as a game, yesterday I watched Rugby league disguised as Gaelic football. It was bloody awful to watch.

You dont have to  watch it    ,  the rules havent changed 15 v 15 round ball etc, tactics have changed and evolved in the past 10 -15 years and as a result the traditional type game is all but gone

To beat Donegal at their peak, is fairly simple, dont drag your defenders forward and over attack leaving space at the back

Shoot from distance, and use quick ball.  Derry passed laterally and slowly allowing Donegal to set up their defensive screen


Best of luck to SLIGO this year

Seems the tackle is now being used

http://www.hoganstand.com/donegal/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=217062

The same blanket that Tyrone played for years you hypocrite, BITTER  eh

If you think Tyrone played that type of suffocating negative football to win games 0.05 to 0.04 then point it out to us all
In 2003 we hunted in packs v Kerry and never give them a chance to settle but we didn't systematically set out with 13 men behind the ball. You didn't see Peter Canavan our best forward back in our own defence too often stopping the other team getting inside your own 40 in case they get a free shot for a point.
Yer game v Dublin has to go down as an old time low in GAA
Yes fair play McGuinness has beaten M.Harte several years in a row now but don't even try to say we played to that level of negativity.
For some of the great players you have like Murphy, McBrearty, McFadden McHugh and Lacey they must be fed up playing that crap. That's why McHugh has left IMHO.
Nobody is encouraged to be creative or spontaneous.
It's like bloody robots and if ye win another AI with it don't expect too much neutral support.
It's no wonder people were glad too see the Dubs win last year. Even Meath and Kerry

whitewash mate


Even Tyrone in their pomp couldnt beat Donegal when it mattered

And we played football then as well