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#31
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
October 28, 2023, 06:04:50 PM
Wonder has anyone told the commentator he's shouting in a big empty room.  :'(
#32
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
October 28, 2023, 06:03:33 PM
What a joke
#33
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
October 28, 2023, 05:55:15 PM
Anyone having trouble getting the stream on Tyrone tv
#34
General discussion / Re: The Late Late show
October 28, 2023, 10:48:49 AM
No doubt. Its early yet.

Gay Byrne was good but plenty of big mistakes
#35
General discussion / Re: The Late Late show
October 27, 2023, 10:19:27 PM
Better tonight.

Paddy starting to settle in
#36
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
October 27, 2023, 09:49:17 PM
Just an ominous stat for either Pomeroy or Coalisland.

Any team that has beaten us in recent years in the championship has been promoted. So by that logic Moy are goin up one way of the other.
#37
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
October 27, 2023, 09:47:02 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on October 27, 2023, 10:10:11 AMPoint of order though.

Costa del Moortown is further east than Ardboe.

Fair play was goin to make the same point. Sure they'd run into the battery if they thought it would guarantee them a win.
#38
Moy by 4
Errigal trillick draw
#39
General discussion / Re: The DUP thread
October 24, 2023, 11:33:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 24, 2023, 10:43:40 PM
Quote from: WT4E on October 24, 2023, 02:09:08 PM
Quote from: blasmere on October 24, 2023, 08:59:49 AM
Quote from: WT4E on October 23, 2023, 10:36:43 PMWould a right minded unionist not wonder about a nation on its doorstep building a sovereign wealth fund whilst their particular political representatives are telling them we better off with those lads across the qater that keep stabbing us in the back and all we have to do is go back to London and tell them you just need to keep handing us more charity money and it will be OK.

An oxymoron if ever there was one

Moron is well deserved here. I should have said protestant - moderate unionist?

Just a prod will do, by definition of Unionist, and if he's labels him/herself as a unionist then they'll take some changing to buy into an united Ireland

Fair point. Anyway surely a united Ireland vote be won by any right minded person.
#40
General discussion / Re: Cryptocurrency
October 24, 2023, 02:57:44 PM
Just need shib to hit a dollar .... then I'll have $4m
#41
General discussion / Re: The DUP thread
October 24, 2023, 02:09:08 PM
Quote from: blasmere on October 24, 2023, 08:59:49 AM
Quote from: WT4E on October 23, 2023, 10:36:43 PMWould a right minded unionist not wonder about a nation on its doorstep building a sovereign wealth fund whilst their particular political representatives are telling them we better off with those lads across the qater that keep stabbing us in the back and all we have to do is go back to London and tell them you just need to keep handing us more charity money and it will be OK.

An oxymoron if ever there was one

Moron is well deserved here. I should have said protestant - moderate unionist?
#42
Quote from: rrhf on October 20, 2023, 10:40:44 AMWhat happens if its a draw after normal time.  If you predict draw and then Errigal by 3 say would a draw and then a Trillick win still earn points? If you picked a draw and then a Trillick win by 3 if Trillick win by 3 in normal time does it pay out?

According to rules only results in normal time are considered so if u pick a draw and it comes up I guess its 22 points.

Open to thoughts on this
#43
General discussion / Re: The DUP thread
October 23, 2023, 10:36:43 PM
Would a right minded unionist not wonder about a nation on its doorstep building a sovereign wealth fund whilst their particular political representatives are telling them we better off with those lads across the qater that keep stabbing us in the back and all we have to do is go back to London and tell them you just need to keep handing us more charity money and it will be OK.
#44
General discussion / Re: Hamas launch attack on Israel
October 23, 2023, 10:32:33 PM
Quote from: seafoid on October 23, 2023, 06:07:41 PM
Quote from: Hound on October 23, 2023, 05:26:21 PM
Quote from: Snapchap on October 23, 2023, 03:30:01 PM
Quote from: Snapchap on October 20, 2023, 11:50:33 PM
Quote from: Hound on October 20, 2023, 11:36:43 PMI totally agree with C4 that there's not enough evidence to decide either way. (Unlike you, who made up your mind immediately with no evidence and ignore all the evidence on one side and jump on the evidence on the other side).
What's the difference? You made up your mind based on one Israeli press conference.

Do you agree with Channel 4 that the version of events/evidence presented by Israel during that press conference looks likely to have been misleading and potentially falsified/fabricated? Do you still believe that they were being "open and transparent" about the attack in the press conference, which is what you immediately claimed after you watched it?

So, Hound? Given that Channel 4 have referenced expert opinion which suggests that the evidence relayed by the Israelis in their press conference about the hospital attack was misleading and potentially falsified/fabricated, do you stand by your belief that they were being "open and transparent" in said press conference?
Christ almighty, talk about getting hung up on one point.
As I said before, at that press conference the IDF were doing their best to be seen as open and transparent - they were providing information that could be rebutted or not, they took questions from both, what they would see as, friendly and unfriendly journalists. This was different than previous press conferences when they would only take questions (probably pre-approved) from select journalists.

Is it just the recordings that two 'independent Arab experts' have questioned that you are saying was fabricated, or is there more?  Those recordings always were very flimsy in terms of so called 'evidence' and hold no water either way. The site itself is key. From what I have seen, C4 have not said the evidence points to Israel doing it, they said they have not reached a conclusion. But if there is new stuff please share.

Here is the CNN analysis. Very thorough and still not completely conclusive. Lots of independent experts and not all yanks. I think if Israel did it, Hamas would have been able to produce evidence from the site, but still can't point either way for sure.

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/10/21/middleeast/cnn-investigates-forensic-analysis-gaza-hospital-blast/index.html

I see the UK (who had been silent on it so far) have now said the evidence they have looked at points to the weapon that hit the hospital coming from Gaza and not from Israel. Wording used is 'likely' so still not absolute.
CNN took the Israeli line . So did Biden

The Israeli ambassador tried to convince Krishnan Guru Murthy that Israel didn't bomb the hospital.She justified her position citing Biden.

https://twitter.com/Channel4News/status/1715052724952179075
Quote from: seafoid on October 23, 2023, 06:07:41 PM
Quote from: Hound on October 23, 2023, 05:26:21 PM
Quote from: Snapchap on October 23, 2023, 03:30:01 PM
Quote from: Snapchap on October 20, 2023, 11:50:33 PM
Quote from: Hound on October 20, 2023, 11:36:43 PMI totally agree with C4 that there's not enough evidence to decide either way. (Unlike you, who made up your mind immediately with no evidence and ignore all the evidence on one side and jump on the evidence on the other side).
What's the difference? You made up your mind based on one Israeli press conference.

Do you agree with Channel 4 that the version of events/evidence presented by Israel during that press conference looks likely to have been misleading and potentially falsified/fabricated? Do you still believe that they were being "open and transparent" about the attack in the press conference, which is what you immediately claimed after you watched it?

So, Hound? Given that Channel 4 have referenced expert opinion which suggests that the evidence relayed by the Israelis in their press conference about the hospital attack was misleading and potentially falsified/fabricated, do you stand by your belief that they were being "open and transparent" in said press conference?
Christ almighty, talk about getting hung up on one point.
As I said before, at that press conference the IDF were doing their best to be seen as open and transparent - they were providing information that could be rebutted or not, they took questions from both, what they would see as, friendly and unfriendly journalists. This was different than previous press conferences when they would only take questions (probably pre-approved) from select journalists.

Is it just the recordings that two 'independent Arab experts' have questioned that you are saying was fabricated, or is there more?  Those recordings always were very flimsy in terms of so called 'evidence' and hold no water either way. The site itself is key. From what I have seen, C4 have not said the evidence points to Israel doing it, they said they have not reached a conclusion. But if there is new stuff please share.

Here is the CNN analysis. Very thorough and still not completely conclusive. Lots of independent experts and not all yanks. I think if Israel did it, Hamas would have been able to produce evidence from the site, but still can't point either way for sure.

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/10/21/middleeast/cnn-investigates-forensic-analysis-gaza-hospital-blast/index.html

I see the UK (who had been silent on it so far) have now said the evidence they have looked at points to the weapon that hit the hospital coming from Gaza and not from Israel. Wording used is 'likely' so still not absolute.
CNN took the Israeli line . So did Biden

The Israeli ambassador tried to convince Krishnan Guru Murthy that Israel didn't bomb the hospital.She justified her position citing Biden.

https://twitter.com/Channel4News/status/1715052724952179075

She argues about hamas killing their own. There is strong evidence to suggest that Israel killed a significant number of their own eople in the 7th Oct attacks. A tactic they have employed before.

They decided to shell buildings in kibbutzs where hamas where hiding out knowing they would kill plenty of their own citizens.

Terrible altogether.

Have deleted everything BBC I can at this stage.
#45
General discussion / Re: The Late Late show
October 20, 2023, 11:00:31 PM
Roy Keane