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Ulster Counties seem to be big into Leagues and getting their knickers into a twist over them.
The rest of us know "it's only th'oul League"

Would you Intermediate and junior champs come from lower or higher divisions?

The League Divisions would mostly mirror the Championship Grades.

That's fine then. What would your opinion be if your 3 champ winners came from Div 1?

It's highly unlikely any of the Junior Clubs'1st teams would ever get that high up the Leagues.
A D1 team might win Inter once in a while alright if they'd only lost Senior status the year before.

But there's no formal link between the Leagues and Championships.

Happened in Cavan this year..

Ulster Counties seem to be big into Leagues and getting their knickers into a twist over them.
The rest of us know "it's only th'oul League"

Would you Intermediate and junior champs come from lower or higher divisions?

The League Divisions would mostly mirror the Championship Grades.

That's fine then. What would your opinion be if your 3 champ winners came from Div 1?

Ulster Counties seem to be big into Leagues and getting their knickers into a twist over them.
The rest of us know "it's only th'oul League"

Would you Intermediate and junior champs come from lower or higher divisions?

The split seasons screws the leagues up with county player unavailability, especially for smaller clubs, so the league rankings are not going to be a true reflection.

Antrim are currently trying to push through championship relegation as opposed to league position. Same will happen across the board I would say.

Just have relegation playoffs with co players. In Monaghan bottom of the league plays the 2nd bottom of relegation group from championship.

What teams that played/won their championships and played in league two of their counties?

Seems nowadays that clubs much prefer to hang back, or drop down to get a run at a provincial championship or all Ireland run

Needs to be looked at in Croke park, if a club wants to drop down and win their county championship in either intermediate or Junior they can't be playing div one football and then represent the county, it should be a div 2 team for intermediate and a div 3 or 4 for junior

You'd soon see a lot of teams cutting their cloth differently

Can't say I've ever heard a club or players say they want to go down to get a run at a championship in a lower grade. From my own experience lads hate getting relegated.

If they are relegated then they are playing div 2 surely?

My idea is that if you are div 2 you play intermediate if you are playing in div 1 you can play intermediate but you'll not represent your county in the provincial series and beyond.

Has some merit, but I think some posters on here are making far too much of this.
As someone else said, everyone wants to play at the highest level they can, arva have never won a cavan championship before, there are 26 teams above them in championship in Cavan. They are playing junior because for whatever reason they lost last year's junior final, the team who beat them, drumlane had a middling intermediate campaign (despite only losing the Ulster junior final on pens last year).
Of course there's going to be differences in standards between counties, especially since there are so many different systems in place. Some counties have 16 teams per championship, some have 8. It seems that most are now moving from the direct league and championship link, so that will probably even things a bit. But at the end of the day, if you're in junior or intermediate, you're unlikely to be a Dublin super club and a run to an all Ireland final is going to be great for the local community and it might spark a revival of interest, standards and provide memories and stories for years to come!

Would linking it not even it?

Good win by Arva. A senior team playing Junior.

Won everything handy this year.

Brady very good. Drove forward well in the second half. A change of mindset at half-time helped Arva greatly.

Oh you have to understand playing div 1 football in Cavan means nothing... it didn't help Arva at all apparently.. they should have just played reserve football league

A first team can't play any lower than Div 3 in Cavan. Arva play Div 1 league in Cavan. It's not connected to Championship. Arva are Junior Championship.

Correct. I'm merely stating that them playing div 1 football has been a significant advantage for them. Do you think they would have won today playing div 3?

Good win by Arva. A senior team playing Junior.

Won everything handy this year.

Brady very good. Drove forward well in the second half. A change of mindset at half-time helped Arva greatly.

Oh you have to understand playing div 1 football in Cavan means nothing... it didn't help Arva at all apparently.. they should have just played reserve football league

Aw lads not this again.

It's fairly straight forward.. how can anyone come on here and say that Arva playing div 1 football has been not pivotal to what they achieved this year. They are a fantastic team but the Cavan man is burying his head in the sand saying it had no bearing what so ever... must have been the 15 point hammerings in the champ that made them all ire champs

You're the one with your head in the sand. Finishing bottom of Division 1 does not make them a Senior team. They got promoted after losing a Division 2 final. The fact you cannot figure out that league and championship is not linked in unreal. Arva got relegated to Junior in 2021 and lost the Junior final last year. They're not Senior standard as the results show. They're where they are on Championship results. Now drop it. Team wins a good All Ireland and you're crying here immediately as you can't understand they're not linked

So, playing div 1 teams has no bearing on their preparation? You think if they played div 3 football this year they still would have won today? Answer me that

Aw lads not this again.

It's fairly straight forward.. how can anyone come on here and say that Arva playing div 1 football has been not pivotal to what they achieved this year. They are a fantastic team but the Cavan man is burying his head in the sand saying it had no bearing what so ever... must have been the 15 point hammerings in the champ that made them all ire champs

Playing Div 1 has served Arva well

Hopefully more try it to take on the kerry juggernaut annually

I'd say both those teams would be top 3 or 4 in Armagh.

Club football that poor in Armagh? Arva are nowhere near Senior level in Cavan...

Cavan Div 1 team beats other senior champ teams in Cavan but poster says they are nowhere near a senior team.. my god

Playing Div 1 has served Arva well

Here he comes, crying once more.

Say what you want but it's a huge contributing factor as to how good Arva are. The goonies back in 2002 did it the hard way

Playing Div 1 has served Arva well

I see Mayo v London game at the weekend was used with an orange ball... why was that not used yesterday in the game?

Game over at h/t. Kilmacud don't want to know. Hand the trophy over to Glen now.

If St Brid's play as well in the second half as they did in the first half they'll give Glen all the want.

McFaul is on a mission btw

Disgrace of a man

Glen not far off a county side based on this display.

Kilmacud are poor. Scotstown would be in the same position too