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What way does this work?

big week for manchester united, celtic away, need the point to go through. will he rest anyone with chelski in wait.

he will surely... he said as much in the interview after the sheffield match at the weekend. i'd say he'd be happy enough with a draw at celtic then full strength for chelsea.

I think for united to win the league they need to win sunday.

chelsea will be stronger later in the season and united need to make their current form count, even if it is just to let chelski know they are there for the long haul.

Where was this game played? went to killeavy for 2 and here wasn't a sinner about?

In no particular order:

p canavan
a cush
j treanor
d marsden
h downey
m mchugh
a scullion
e hughes

Good man Pint. Checking in when the battle's o'er.......

sure someone has to patch you up and dress your wounds in time for the nest all ireland ploughing contest thread...

You make my argument for me by not disagreeing with anything i say.

"I was highlighting why he was substituted."

apart from those living on the continent of africa, there are very few people less likely to know the reason why mcgeeney was substituted, than you...

Just on that.... who ever though it was a good idea to let seamus prior referee intercounty matches?

Jays it was bad enough to have inflicted him on the club footballlers of leitrim.

maybe it was for comedy value, considering he looks like a cast member from the muppets christmas carol?

I watched that Armagh/Tyrone semi from the best vantage point in Croker. Three times in the opening 7 minutes Cavanagh made an eejit out of McGeeney. The first was at the throw in. Cavanagh caught it, ran at Geezer, flicked it over his head and was fouled. Then he forced Geezer into a rash challenge which set up Mellon's goal chance. The definitive moment was around 7 mins. Gormley fed Cavangh from a free. Sean looked up, saw Geezer, side-stepped him with ultimate ease leaving Geezer grasping at thin air, and stuck it over the bar from distance. And that as before the game really got started!

To be fair to Geezer, he scored a monstrous point late in injury time in the first half that took the wind out of Tyrone's sails. In the second half, after Ricey's point, Sean fielded the ball, took the return and ghosted past a disconsolate McGeeney, who uncharacteristically declined to even make contact. O'Neill stuck it over. Geezers next play was to foul Sean for another free on the 14. It was then that Kernan decided to make the only call he could.

Nice stories O'Neill, probably copied from hogan stand as usual. i'm not going to get into football specifics with someone who won't understand them but suffice to say there was only once while mcgeeeny was on the pitch that cavanagh was forced to go down the centre and mcgeeney actually fouled him outside shooting range. It's well known (amongst those who look for these things) that cavanagh breaks down the wings 9 times out of 10. if mcgeeney was actually the shadow of himself you claim, big sean should have had more balls and ran at him more often and tyrone could have won the game easily.

If you ask some of your more learned colleagues, thay will fill you in on the (not so) big secret that actually won the match for tyrone. they isolated a certain armagh wing back and mcginley & cavanagh poured down his wing from start to finish.

Cavanagh is extensively quoted from after the match saying that couldn't believe it when he saw mcgeeney being called off and he told himself this was his chance to attack. he also claimed that final 10 minutes after mcgeeney went off was his best in a tyrone jersey. coincidence?



Dubh driocht  - blanketattack asked about penalties missed, i simply mentioned one. having known the man personally, i don't for one minute believe that bill mccorry cost armagh that final any more than one mistake ever specifically cost any team any match. and yes, i have a video of the 53 final.

Who is Brigid Andrews?

And i've just told you it's nonsense. this new fangled video thing is a great yoke.

I must be confused. I though Tyrone won that day and went on to win their second All-Ireland title. Maybe you saw it differently.

Yes, and is that supposed to be some sort of verification of the dream you were questioned about from your previous post?

Sean Cavanagh went passed Geezer that day late on in the game around the middle of the field. The look on both their faces told the story. Geezer knew he was finished, his legs had gone.

still, no he didn't...

joe mcmanus is singularly the worst reporter around. same article every time, just swap the relevent names. further, his "most influential players" are predetermined for every game.

writes joe mcmanus...

the only time cavanagh got down the middle was after mcgeeney went off and ak (?) was playing 6.

like everything he posts about armagh, 5times' recall is confusing facts with what he wishes happened

Bill McCorry

Mc Entee i think , John. Piss on it if im wrong but if i can think back it was worked out through Enda Mc Nulty to Andrew Mc Cann and then to Mc Entee, although in 2001 i was 13.

Cuhullianns bhoy, it was actually Justin McNulty, I still remember it, we were 7 points down and clawed our way back to level, all over them and McNulty tries to fist a ball over Clancy's head and he intercepted and dispensed over the bar. Come to think of it was his brother at this carry on against Kerry.

twas a kick blocked down by donnellen just as he crossed the 50. donnellen recovered the ball, as with all good blocks, drove down the right, cut inside to feed clancy, who put armagh to the sword.