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From what I saw, Tyrone arguably looked the better side in the first half and should've been ahead but for a rake of kicks dropped unforgiveably short.

What game were you watching? Tyrone were dire tonight, but its only February they will improve whereas that was Derrys biggest game of the year.

yeah and the mckenna cup will be Downs!

just in from game - celtic park still remains unconquered!

Tyrone really scored that goal against the run of play - Derry unlucky not to have scored a few other goals - the score line did not reflect Derrys dominance. Charlie Kielt excellent game. Declan Mullan excellent when he came on and James Kielt is something else. He got tanked at the end of the game - hope he is ok.

John Deighan

Marty Dunne is the new apprentice - Deighan has been sacked!
You heard it here first.

Paddy Bradley is supposed to be out - has a heel injury - apparently has not trained in a few weeks. I think it will be the Eoin Bradley show.

Good draw, havent had a night out in Derry City in years, looking forward to this one

Were you there for the battle of the bogside?  What year was that - mid 90's?  Remeber I couldn't go that day for some reason and the stories I heard about the rows were deadly - Oul dolls coming out of houses with frying pans etc.. Mate of mine got hit with a plank of wood in the bake.  Few taxis full of shinners had to stop the carnage in the end.

sounds like the residents of the bogside thought they where being invaded by orangemen:-)

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Kerry's stock is at an all-time high following last Sunday's All-Ireland victory. Colm Keys values the movers and shakers following the 2009 season

Wednesday September 23 2009

A championship to remember for the most part, largely free of the controversies that stalked it last summer and, inevitably, a championship that has thrown up the best team as its winners.

An inter-county season that began slowly in the first week of January with the provincial subsidiary competitions, accelerated with the Dublin/Tyrone opening league match under Croke Park's lights, tapered off somewhat until July, before coming to a conclusion last weekend with Kerry securing a fifth All-Ireland title of the decade.

A clear gap has opened between the top three teams -- Kerry, Cork and Tyrone -- and the rest. The challenge to the rest is to make the leap. Our ratings below are based on performances in 2009, not on how they might line-up on the grid at the start of 2010.

1 -- Kerry

There will always be a nagging doubt in their collective minds over the 'T' word but they can only beat what is put in front of them. Would they have beaten their great northern nemesis in Sunday's final? We'll never know. A smart approach, smart management and ultimately the best players in 2009, having added a league Division 1 title in April.

If they were a share: Always a buy.

2 -- cork

A disappointing end to a magnificent year. Cork really shaped up like champions in-waiting but the absence of real cutting thrust in attack exposed them. Beating Tyrone gave them a victory of real substance in Croke Park, losing to Kerry there again opens all the wounds. The structure of the team is still good and improvement is inevitable.

If they were a share: Definite buy.

3 -- tyrone

Won a pedestrian Ulster championship, showed stomach for a fight against Kildare but struggled with Cork's pace and size in the All-Ireland semi-final. Mickey Harte won't have too many changes to make, however, provided the appetite remains. The prospect of Kyle Coney joining the attack is an exciting one.

If they were a share: Bluechip.

4 -- dublin

Dublin hold on to fourth spot but the gap with the top three grows. Pat Gilroy's blue revolution came badly unstuck as the team froze in a second successive All-Ireland quarter-final. There is no ready-made solution and this team may have missed their best opportunity.

If they were a share: Too risky.

5 -- kildare

Maybe they are not the fifth best team in Ireland but the form lines suggested this year that they were. Tyrone had to dig deep to beat them, so too Dublin. Kieran McGeeney has put structure and flesh to the team and a 2010 Leinster title would be the perfect reward to start.

If they were a share: Still a buy.

6 -- meath

The only way after 2008 was up but defeats to Dublin and Kerry suggest Meath just aren't comfortable at high altitudes. Picked themselves up well through the qualifiers.

If they were a share: May be overpriced right now.

7 -- mayo

A first Connacht title in three years has to be acknowledged. Suffered from some curious decisions by match officials in their All-Ireland quarter-final but still didn't grasp the game when it was there. Still look like a team who have potential.

If they were a share: Buy.

8 -- derry

Beat Monaghan twice but still didn't fulfil potential they showed to reach second successive league final, losing to Tyrone in Ulster and Donegal in the qualifiers.

If they were a share: Can't be trusted.

9 -- donegal

Beat Derry, who are ahead on this scale, and Galway, but their shocking collapse to Cork and early defeat to Antrim takes from them. In Karl Lacey and Michael Murphy they have two of the championship's best players.

If they were a share: Too risky.

10 -- galway

By their own standards had a very poor year, losing to Mayo and Donegal after blowing another good league position against Kerry. Joe Kernan's arrival will ignite them.

If they were a share: Buy.

11 -- monaghan

Competitive to a fault once again but they look like they are at the peak of their capabilities. Took care of Armagh in championship and league, gained promotion to the top flight but need new players more than new backroom staff.

If they were a share: Don't rush to buy.

12 -- armagh

A bad season on the field has got worse off it. Armagh are at their lowest rating for well over a decade. Need to regroup.

If they were a share: Quick recovery predicted.

13 -- antrim

Took opportunities that came their way, catching out Donegal and reaching a first Ulster final in 39 years after promotion. Gave Kerry their fill of it too.

If they were a share: May have hit their heights.

14 -- limerick

Up to last Sunday no team troubled Cork more than they did in the Munster final but were fortunate to be so close to Meath when they exited. Relegation to Division 4 a blemish.

If they were a share: Worth a punt.

15 -- sligo

If only ... David Kelly's penalty in Tralee has become one of the talking points of the season. Competitive against Galway and Kerry after winning Division 4.

If they were a share: Don't rush.

16 -- down

Crashed in Aughrim having beaten Laois in qualifiers and lost to Fermanagh in Ulster. Promotion from Division 3 is the year's only plus.

If they were a share: Could be one of 2010's biggest movers.

17 -- wicklow

Highest rating ever. Picked off wary opponents in Aughrim to bring the number of championship games they played to six, an achievement in itself. Tested Kildare to the limits but had a poor league.

If they were a share: Depends on

management.

18 -- laois

They retained their Division 2 status in the league but that was good as it got for Laois. A season to write off.

If they were a share: The only way is up.

19 -- fermanagh

Beat Down but spurned a good opportunity to reach another Ulster final against Cavan. Lost Division 2 status.

If they were a share: Could rise again.

20 -- westmeath

A season to forget. Lost Division 1 status and were then crushed in Leinster and the qualifiers by Dublin and Meath. A dramatic fall.

If they were a share: Huge devaluation.

21 -- tipperary

The Division 3 champions didn't follow on in the championship, losing narrowly to Limerick and then to Sligo.

If they were a share: Sell.

22 -- wexford

More than a touch of second season syndrome for the 2008 All-Ireland semi-finalists. An annus horribilis that saw them return to Division 3.

If they were a share: Risky

23 -- cavan

Beating Fermanagh doesn't mean they are better. Awful against Antrim in the Ulster semi-final, struggled in the league.

If they were a share: Don't invest.

24 -- roscommon

Recovered from one of the worst championship defeats of the season to take Wexford out of the championship after a replay. Mid-table Division 3.

If they were a share: Could steadily rise from current low

25 -- offaly

Recovered well in the league, quick exit from Leinster, small signs of recovery.

If they were a share: Sure to pick up.

26 -- louth

Won the O'Byrne Cup but made no real headway after that. Not a team that looks ready for the climb.

If they were a share: Steer clear.

27 -- longford

Will feel they can pick off counties above them given the struggle they made it for Kerry in the qualifiers but league form was poor, resulting in relegation.

If they were a share: Not worth it.

28 -- leitrim

Mickey Moran and John Morrisson didn't work the oracle. Defeat to Roscommon and Longford in the championship puts things into perspective.

If they were a share: Sell.

29 -- waterford

Had their best league campaign in Division 4 under John Kiely who was subsequently removed. Heavy championship defeat to Cork.

If they were a share: Potentially small rise.

30 -- clare

Only Carlow, London and Kilkenny were below them in the league, they were competitive in the championship against Limerick and Donegal however.

If they were a share: Nothing to be bullish about.

31 -- carlow

Tested Louth in the championship but fell away badly to Donegal. The league provides evidence of their status.

If they were a share: Avoid.

32 -- london

The exiles performed creditably in the league, beating Waterford and Kilkenny but no championship impression.

If they were a share: Expect increased interest.

Yeah Great game - hate to say it - but Tyrone played some second half. When the chips where down they responded. Great point by McMahon. Would loved to have heard what harte said at half time.

I suppose the Donegal players have hit the carry-outs in the back of the bus by now.....

The referee was a total bullocks - gave nothing to Derry.

Fair play to donegal where up for it and took the game to Derry - who where always on the back foot until the end.

McCloy was taken to the cleaners - the full back line was our achilles heel tonight. Gerald o'Kane was brilliant. Doherty had a very poor game.The second goal was a real sucker punch - believe we could have went on and win the game in extra time if it had not occurred.

I haven't read past this post to see if any Derry supporter has refuted it, but as a total neutral, this is a spin comical Ali couldn't have put on it

The ref had a fine game imo up until the very last kick of the game when there was an very obvious free in not given to Derry which would have drawn the game.

where you listening on the radio?...... ref gave us nothing all night - skinner - PB where constantly being pushed on the back. Donegal where constantly clipping low on the legs. Sean Marty completed a clean tackle and was penalised.

The referee was a total bullocks - gave nothing to Derry.

Fair play to donegal where up for it and took the game to Derry - who where always on the back foot until the end.

McCloy was taken to the cleaners - the full back line was our achilles heel tonight. Gerald o'Kane was brilliant. Doherty had a very poor game.The second goal was a real sucker punch - believe we could have went on and win the game in extra time if it had not occurred.

on a different note - Benny must be the ugliest looking heur playing inter county football?

J70 what is the issue with Donegal - is it John joe? has he not got the support of the players?

Derry at a canter.

Derry wouldn't want to get too far ahead of themselves based on one good performance, one swallow doesn't make a summer, and they've got carried away before on the back of one good performance.

glens73 you are right. I think will Cassidy will have them well prepared as they still have a hard road ahead of them. However, you have some neck coming around here preaching to us - you would nearly think you where from Kerry or somewhere. Donegal next week and Antrim the following!

Expect Derry to win this one. However, Mcguckian will not be back until the following week - so our backs will have to pull their socks up.

Well said Tacadóir and Gnevin. Dreamer, I'm surprised at you. Counties are entitled to equal treatment. Everybody has equal pride in his or her own shirt and is entitled to equal respect. Shame on you.

They may be, but there are a lot of rumours going around tonight that the Ross Wexford replay is going to be scheduled for Wednesday night in the Hyde, with the winner playing again at the weekend...

All qualifiers will be played next weekend. The Wexford game will be played during the week. You might be lucky to get the meath game on the sunday rather than the saturday. Next draw is next sunday.