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[Every so often a big team is taken out in the championship , usually because they aren't as good as people expect. Kerry v Down in 1991 was a classic of the genre. Meath v Westmeath 2015]

No way will Kildare beat Dublin. I'd love to see it but I don't see it or close...

Every so often a big team is taken out in the championship , usually because they aren't as good as people expect.
Kerry v Down in 1991 was a classic of the genre.
Meath v Westmeath 2015

I've been at a few that we lost against the odds:

Dublin v Meath 1964
Dublin v Kerry 1975
Dublin v Kerry 1978
Dublin v Donegal 1992
Dublin v Derry 1993
Dublin v Down 1994
Dublin v Donegal 2014

2012 v Mayo surely the same as Donegal in 14

I don't think that too many Dubs supporters were too optimistic in 2012. We weren't used to thinking in terms of two in a row back then.

[Every so often a big team is taken out in the championship , usually because they aren't as good as people expect. Kerry v Down in 1991 was a classic of the genre. Meath v Westmeath 2015]

No way will Kildare beat Dublin. I'd love to see it but I don't see it or close...

Every so often a big team is taken out in the championship , usually because they aren't as good as people expect.
Kerry v Down in 1991 was a classic of the genre.
Meath v Westmeath 2015

I've been at a few that we lost against the odds:

Dublin v Meath 1964
Dublin v Kerry 1975
Dublin v Kerry 1978
Dublin v Donegal 1992
Dublin v Derry 1993
Dublin v Down 1994
Dublin v Donegal 2014

[COYBIB]

The consensus seems to be that Dublin are a busted flush and they will be exposed as such tomorrow in Nolan Park. That may well happen since they've been dragged out screaming from their cosy citadel of Croker. But sometimes it's dangerous to get what you wish for. The Cork team went home after the drawn 1983 semi-final thinking that they had the replay in Cork already won. as we know it's never that simple.

Anyway win, lose or draw we're well used to all results.

COYBIB 

["Dublin are a pale shadow of what they were for most of the last decade"]

A great performance by Roscommon yesterday. But surely no one can be surprised by this. They are a strong team who have battled it out with the top teams in the country over the past year and who came to Croke Park well prepared for the game. They came up against a Dublin team who had not been exposed to the required level of intensity for some time - and yet in the end Roscommon were lucky to get away with the draw. It may be that this will be the closest Roscommon will get to Dublin for some time.

Nonsense, Dublin are a pale shadow of what they were for most of the last decade.
So far this year kildare should have closed out the Leinster semi, Derry beat them, Clare should have held on, cork had a great chance to beat them too, didn't see the first kildare league game, but all of these games were more or less the minimum margin, they've had plenty of tight intense games this year.

Some fair points there.

Of course "Dublin are a pale shadow of what they were for most of the last decade", and it's for that reason that Dessie Farrell spent the league and Leinster Championship trying to beef up the squad. They didn't go out trying to wipe teams out but at the end of the day they managed to win Leinster and finish top of Division 2.

If we're honest, with the new championship format, it's very hard to assess where any of the teams stand now. There are a lot of games to be played yet. And we're all hoping for the best for our own favourites.


COYBIB

   

_{Winning Leinster is meaningless. Winning D2 isn't much to shout about either}

I'm not sure what your point is. Maybe you'd like to read my post carefully again and see what I actually said

["Dublin are a pale shadow of what they were for most of the last decade"]

A great performance by Roscommon yesterday. But surely no one can be surprised by this. They are a strong team who have battled it out with the top teams in the country over the past year and who came to Croke Park well prepared for the game. They came up against a Dublin team who had not been exposed to the required level of intensity for some time - and yet in the end Roscommon were lucky to get away with the draw. It may be that this will be the closest Roscommon will get to Dublin for some time.

Nonsense, Dublin are a pale shadow of what they were for most of the last decade.
So far this year kildare should have closed out the Leinster semi, Derry beat them, Clare should have held on, cork had a great chance to beat them too, didn't see the first kildare league game, but all of these games were more or less the minimum margin, they've had plenty of tight intense games this year.

Some fair points there.

Of course "Dublin are a pale shadow of what they were for most of the last decade", and it's for that reason that Dessie Farrell spent the league and Leinster Championship trying to beef up the squad. They didn't go out trying to wipe teams out but at the end of the day they managed to win Leinster and finish top of Division 2.

If we're honest, with the new championship format, it's very hard to assess where any of the teams stand now. There are a lot of games to be played yet. And we're all hoping for the best for our own favourites.


COYBIB

     

What shouldn't be forgotten about yesterday's game was that during Roscommon's dominant first half Dublin lost their firsr-choice full back (and regular scorer) David Byrne after 9 minutes and Mick Fitzsimons spent 10 minutes sitting in the sand.

A great performance by Roscommon yesterday. But surely no one can be surprised by this. They are a strong team who have battled it out with the top teams in the country over the past year and who came to Croke Park well prepared for the game. They came up against a Dublin team who had not been exposed to the required level of intensity for some time - and yet in the end Roscommon were lucky to get away with the draw. It may be that this will be the closest Roscommon will get to Dublin for some time.   

I'm alternating between 'Oh f***', and 'We can do this'.  If we can prevent Dublin getting into sequences where they get 4 or 5 scores in a row, then we could make it interesting.  Having just typed that, it looks like blatant stating the obvious,  but the key will be keeping Fenton and Kilkenny quiet, without leaving too much space for McCaffrey (presume he's fit?) or the likes.  If them two are held in check, it makes minding Mannion and O'Callaghan that bit easier.  If they get into a rhythm,  any team will suffer, because then every other player is a danger.  It's hard to judge where Dublin are relative to the Kildare and Louth games.  I can't see us giving up the same amount of scoring opportunities as Louth did, and I think if we get our starting 6 and subs in the forwards right, then we could be right there. 
I expect we'll be very defensive early doors, and the first half mightn't make for much of a spectacle, but like a lot of games this year, hopefully the 2nd half takes fire.
Usually with Ros, it's travelling more in hope than expectation,  and it's the hope that kills you.  It'll either be blown out of the water, or possibly something special and damn the torpedoes!!

You won't have to worry about Jack Mac. He's not named on the squad

[COYBIB]

Tomorrow the Dubs will meet a Division 1 team for the first time since relegation. It will be interesting  to see how that works out. Roscommon will have prepared well for this one and tomorrow's game is wide open.

From a Dub's point of view we'll hope for the best.

COYBIB

Awesome display by the Dubs today. It was a pleasure to watch them. Once they broke Louth's early grip on the game the Dubs were devastating throughout the field. Louth were totally outclassed, but in fairness they battled to the end. One sour note was the insistent booing by the Louth supporters of the Dublin free-takers - although I don't think that it caused frees to be missed.

Well you're one of the few that are enthusiastic about it - there weren't too many Dubs that could muster up the enthusiasm to wander down to watch it.

There was a crowd of 40,000 at the game with about half that number from Dublin. Not bad really.

Awesome display by the Dubs today. It was a pleasure to watch them. Once they broke Louth's early grip on the game the Dubs were devastating throughout the field. Louth were totally outclassed, but in fairness they battled to the end. One sour note was the insistent booing by the Louth supporters of the Dublin free-takers - although I don't think that it caused frees to be missed.

Kerry Armagh game start delayed for 10 minutes because of crowd congestion outside the ground.

No more talk about Dublin supporters arriving late please!

From a Dub perspective it was great to see JackMac coming on in Cork. He seems to be in fine form and we'll up for the job.

Sincere condolences. RIP

Nail on head. Conlon using the classic  Tory/Trump strategy. Filth bag reporting

I think it might be you who's using the Trump form of argument with your "alternative facts"