Quote from: the goal was on on September 08, 2021, 11:18:01 PM
If children are made to isolate even if negative they'll be off school most of year. How can people work if children are constantly isolating.
Apparently the teachers are all working!
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If children are made to isolate even if negative they'll be off school most of year. How can people work if children are constantly isolating.
Quote from: delgany on September 09, 2021, 11:32:44 AMQuote from: DuffleKing on September 09, 2021, 10:43:30 AMQuote from: delgany on September 08, 2021, 10:21:16 PMQuote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on September 08, 2021, 10:05:40 PMQuote from: the goal was on on September 08, 2021, 09:52:07 PMPrimary or post-primary?
My child can now go anywhere she likes after testing negative but because the school has decided not to follow the guidance she can't attend school for the next 8 days.
I'm surprised that some schools are going against the guidance. There couldn't be many.
The current guidance in the North is complete bollocks tbh.
If a child has Covid , all close contacts should isolate for 10 days.
No variables allowed. Breaks the cycle of close contacts, spreading the virus continously around the classroom/ school.
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This is not the guidance in the north.
If a child is deemed a close contact - and are not vaccinated - then they must pass a PCR test to return to school. In most cases, this is a 2 day turn around.
And as I said , that guidance s complete nonsense .
A child/ pupil can be -ve on day 2 , if they are lucky enough to get a PCR test, but be positive on Day 5 and spread the virus around the room. Research is indicating that Day 3 should be the opitimal day for testing in first place.
The guidance is not a statutory requirement.
Close contacts out for 10 days - IS the easiest way to manage in school. Straight forward to sort & manage !
Quote from: the goal was on on September 08, 2021, 09:52:07 PM
My child can now go anywhere she likes after testing negative but because the school has decided not to follow the guidance she can't attend school for the next 8 days.
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on September 08, 2021, 09:47:49 PM
You must learn to read. I've already answered your question.
You previously claimed that the vast majority of kids were at home.
Now it is half.
It's great to see you becoming more positive in such a short time.
Yes, I'm the one who should be embarrassed.
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on September 08, 2021, 09:40:42 PMQuote from: TMAC on September 08, 2021, 09:37:44 PMQuote from: TMAC on September 08, 2021, 09:32:21 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on September 08, 2021, 09:23:11 PMQuote from: TMAC on September 08, 2021, 09:20:19 PM
Folk are in places of employment, as for work!!
Ah, you get about some workplaces, between talking rubbish here and going around all the schools you've barely time to see these kids you say you have.
You must be some craic in the house
The rules are defunct - my parent died in hospital last week, I am sure you couldn't care less - the staff were amazing - we were allowed a rota to visit - during day we were met at reception had to don all the gear before going up to sit, after midnight no one was there I walked up wearing a cloth face covering was allowed in as were other siblings - during the night shift staff were not wearing the same level of PPE as during the day. Staff in shops don't were masks all time but customers are expected too, if students are sent home why aren't teachers as close contacts - its completely nonsensical!
Or folk on same bus!
They are good questions.
Teachers are being kept in schools so that many children can still attend, allowing parents to go to work.
Quote from: lenny on September 08, 2021, 09:39:36 PMQuote from: TMAC on September 08, 2021, 09:14:40 PMQuote from: lenny on September 08, 2021, 09:10:40 PMQuote from: TMAC on September 08, 2021, 08:58:08 PMQuote from: lenny on September 08, 2021, 08:44:50 PMQuote from: TMAC on September 08, 2021, 08:41:12 PMQuote from: lenny on September 08, 2021, 07:09:48 PMQuote from: Cobra on September 08, 2021, 03:25:33 PMQuote from: lenny on September 08, 2021, 03:13:04 PMQuote from: Cobra on September 08, 2021, 02:57:14 PM
We really need to stop testing. It's pointless at this stage.
People generally have Covid for a few days before symptoms first appear. That's also when they're at their most contagious. That's why testing is vital to protect people. Anyone who doesn't understand that at this stage is displaying complete ignorance.
We have the vaccine. We cannot advocate testing and isolation forever.
A lot depends on how the NHS is coping. People on here don't understand how the nhs works. If people are admitted with acute illness and need immediate emergency care they get it. If the numbers get very high that means all nhs staff are moved to help with covid patients. That means people with other illnesses like cancer who don't need immediate emergency care get pushed back weeks or even months. That situation will/already has cost lots of lives. This illness is very dangerous even for young people and its long term effects on people isn't yet known. At the moment it's almost there will be another lockdown and it'll be in the next 5 or 6 weeks.
There will never be another lockdown as much as doom merchants like you want it.
lol, you can shout and stamp your feet as much as you want. It's almost certain we'll get another lockdown. The numbers are crazy and there's guaranteed to be a percentage who get very sick and need icu treatment. Once we near breaking point the only solution guaranteed to work is a lockdown. I'm not a gloom and doom merchant, just a realist. I hate lockdowns also but they have been proven to work.
Work for whom? Again why did the majority get vaccinated?
They worked for everyone by getting the numbers down so that the nhs could manage. If the nhs is overwhelmed then even routine injuries, illnesses or minor surgeries could cost lives. Can you not see that. Lockdowns are a necessary evil. The majority got vaccinated to protect themselves against serious illness and they're working really well so far. A small percentage of people will still get sick but a small percentage of a very large number is still a significant number of people.
They worked for everyone!! Tell that to those who committed suicide, lost their jobs, suffered at the hands of abusers, have had serious mental health issues, were totally isolated from the world, felt worthless, lost relationships but hey you really don't care do you.
It was tough mentally for everyone but there is no evidence I've seen that there was an increase in suicides. I have seen studies where it shows people who suffer from anxiety were helped by the lockdowns and felt reassured. Their anxiety levels increased severely when restrictions eased.
Quote from: TMAC on September 08, 2021, 09:32:21 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on September 08, 2021, 09:23:11 PMQuote from: TMAC on September 08, 2021, 09:20:19 PM
Folk are in places of employment, as for work!!
Ah, you get about some workplaces, between talking rubbish here and going around all the schools you've barely time to see these kids you say you have.
You must be some craic in the house
The rules are defunct - my parent died in hospital last week, I am sure you couldn't care less - the staff were amazing - we were allowed a rota to visit - during day we were met at reception had to don all the gear before going up to sit, after midnight no one was there I walked up wearing a cloth face covering was allowed in as were other siblings - during the night shift staff were not wearing the same level of PPE as during the day. Staff in shops don't were masks all time but customers are expected too, if students are sent home why aren't teachers as close contacts - its completely nonsensical!
Quote from: J70 on September 08, 2021, 09:23:41 PM
Is Angelo back?
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 08, 2021, 09:23:11 PMQuote from: TMAC on September 08, 2021, 09:20:19 PM
Folk are in places of employment, as for work!!
Ah, you get about some workplaces, between talking rubbish here and going around all the schools you've barely time to see these kids you say you have.
You must be some craic in the house
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 08, 2021, 09:16:39 PM
He's on a roll today!! I'll give it another week at most
Quote from: lenny on September 08, 2021, 09:10:40 PMQuote from: TMAC on September 08, 2021, 08:58:08 PMQuote from: lenny on September 08, 2021, 08:44:50 PMQuote from: TMAC on September 08, 2021, 08:41:12 PMQuote from: lenny on September 08, 2021, 07:09:48 PMQuote from: Cobra on September 08, 2021, 03:25:33 PMQuote from: lenny on September 08, 2021, 03:13:04 PMQuote from: Cobra on September 08, 2021, 02:57:14 PM
We really need to stop testing. It's pointless at this stage.
People generally have Covid for a few days before symptoms first appear. That's also when they're at their most contagious. That's why testing is vital to protect people. Anyone who doesn't understand that at this stage is displaying complete ignorance.
We have the vaccine. We cannot advocate testing and isolation forever.
A lot depends on how the NHS is coping. People on here don't understand how the nhs works. If people are admitted with acute illness and need immediate emergency care they get it. If the numbers get very high that means all nhs staff are moved to help with covid patients. That means people with other illnesses like cancer who don't need immediate emergency care get pushed back weeks or even months. That situation will/already has cost lots of lives. This illness is very dangerous even for young people and its long term effects on people isn't yet known. At the moment it's almost there will be another lockdown and it'll be in the next 5 or 6 weeks.
There will never be another lockdown as much as doom merchants like you want it.
lol, you can shout and stamp your feet as much as you want. It's almost certain we'll get another lockdown. The numbers are crazy and there's guaranteed to be a percentage who get very sick and need icu treatment. Once we near breaking point the only solution guaranteed to work is a lockdown. I'm not a gloom and doom merchant, just a realist. I hate lockdowns also but they have been proven to work.
Work for whom? Again why did the majority get vaccinated?
They worked for everyone by getting the numbers down so that the nhs could manage. If the nhs is overwhelmed then even routine injuries, illnesses or minor surgeries could cost lives. Can you not see that. Lockdowns are a necessary evil. The majority got vaccinated to protect themselves against serious illness and they're working really well so far. A small percentage of people will still get sick but a small percentage of a very large number is still a significant number of people.
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on September 08, 2021, 09:08:24 PMQuote from: TMAC on September 08, 2021, 09:03:40 PMSo they're in their classrooms doing nothing? The vast majority of kids are in the schools at any one time. Are they not being taught as normal?
Are they f**k doing their jobs as normal, I assume you or the partner is a teacher, a most protected species the public sector worker huge backing of powerful unions and can do as little as they want without fear of reproach.