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Neil Lennon is one of my favorite players, not at all one of the best, just in regards to football intelligence, team leader and holding player par excellance. I am not a Celtic fan.
Games that I remember with him in particular were the away games against Ajax and Liverpool.
His time had to come some day to leave his favored club and he couldn't have chosen a better time to leave.

No problem with that, but that's not what you said. You said sex shops should be zoned off in their own zone. I don't understand why a sex shop is any different to any other retail enterprise. If you have already have a retail zone why would you also need a specific sex zone?

That's a good one, maybe unintentional.

I haven't a clue about the area at all. I assume there are residents involved and they have their reasons.
Could be they are very suspicious of sex shops. Maybee they are just fearfull that undesirables be attracted to come into their area. Maybe they have good reasons, I don't know. It would be good to know.
6 sounds a bit excesssive to me to be located in one small area.
I suppose I'm in favour of strictly controlled good city planning. That such shops be in designated retail areas.

Soft porn was freely available in the North years before the likes of the luke warm Playboy hit the streets in the South. Sex shops exist elsewhere in Belfast.
It is illegal to set up a sex shop without a licence.
Why shouldn't the council support the wishes of local residents who didn't want to have a proliferation of sex shops (6 in all) who wanted to set up there. Whats wrong with Sex (zones) in the city ?

What about bookie zones or pub zones or church zones or school zones (keep all the kids in one place and stop them annoying the adults)?

Why should somebody who is selling completely legal material, whether that is porn mags or clothes pegs be stopped from doing it by the council.

I asked the questions first Sammy.
But to keep on with the great tradition of answering questions with more questions
Why shouldn't a city have zones, residential only zones, mixed residential and office, mixed residential and shopping,  etc etc?

Soft porn was freely available in the North years before the likes of the luke warm Playboy hit the streets in the South. Sex shops exist elsewhere in Belfast.
It is illegal to set up a sex shop without a licence.
Why shouldn't the council support the wishes of local residents who didn't want to have a proliferation of sex shops (6 in all) who wanted to set up there. Whats wrong with Sex (zones) in the city ?

No more and no less pathetic than the moral outrage over Ann Summers coming to OConnell Street. Whats sauce for the goose.....

Why do you say that the Belfast council's reason for refusal to grant a licence for a sex shop in that location is pathetic?

IMO  both sides have valid arguments and both have their valid points.

Despite what your partners might say, size does matter. Unless TD have a working plan for at least 6,000 seats in a dual usage scenario then Rovers should have the priority use.
If there is a viable plan for a dual use stadium, then GAA pitch size is not a major impediment to soccer spectators.
They should try spotting a hurley ball in full flight some 150m away ?

Here's an excerpt from an e-mail sent by Kennedy to John Costello of the Dublin County Board and leaked to the press

What interests me is why would John Costello leak this to the press ?

Who said he did the leaking.

Impression Sammy, just an impression.

okay
then lets agree to spell bigotry properly.

Hang on a minute. Someone wrote a play about what was then a current, actual event which she hadn't attended. Fair enough, she's entitled to do so, whether I or anyone else likes what she's written.
But that is not the point which Sammy and I and other NI fans are making.
Rather, the fat bigot Fearon reappears to herald a revival of the play, alleging that absolutely nothing has changed since the events which Jones dramatised.

I have already dismissed Fearan's analysis as tripe in my first post.
Don't mix and match  posts or points made.

What has emerged is that
Sammy denies the play is about one man dealing with his bigoted mindset.
Many Lies in the play.
Times have changed, no context now for reviving the play.

Imo
Its so called resurrection in Belfast (did it die)
can have a continued positive effect on bigoted influences in society.
Laugh at the pure irrational hateful stupidity of bigotry. It's one way a society can deal with it. Plays like this  expose bigotry, its causes, maintaining factors and be okay with it before it is swept under the carpet.
Bring it up, expose it, laugh at it and dump it.
The impression I get from you and Sammy is that everything is fine now don't bring up the Bigotry play again. Why the feck not? If everybody is okay with Bigotry in the North then either no one will go to it or people will go and enjoy to be reminded of the vileness of bigotry.
If there is a reaction against the  showing of the play, then not everybody is comfortable with the bigoted past.
Who gives a feck if it's just about loyalist bigots. Dermot Morgan had for decades lampooning catholicism and their bigots with savage humor.

I've no idea what this means but I love Father Ted if that helps.

Sammy, It's hard to imagine that you have a sense of humor not to mention some love in your heart as well.

Down a familiar road of a Nationalists head count at WP and Neil Lennon quotes.
Therfore in this context bigotry is not obvious at WP therefore the play needs updating.
Imo the play doesn't need updating. It's a sharp enough reflection of bigotry in a moment of time.
It is a play which has travelled well to different cultures. The play has a purpose wherever in the world there are bigots.
It's based on real enough characters that the playright and the actor have identified in their own life.

Marie wasn't there that night in November, so what, maybe she had never been to a dole office or attended a golf club social. What's the insinuation, that she can't write a play about bigotry? It like some arse criticizing One Flew over the Cuckoo's Nest because such and such would never have happened in an asylum.
Sammy are you the 6 county equivalant of the critics who campaigned to have Dermot Morgan censored in the Father Trendy days ?

Apparantly she was very proud of the play when Marty Maguire was doing it. Much of it was written with him in mind.
PM Marie herself for her personal thoughts and feelings about going to WP these days.

Senior game on a full length GAA pitch of course?

So Sammy are you letting pedantry get in the way of a good laugh?
It's play about bigotry the world over, no need to take it so personal just because it's set in the North. I would have thought the location was spot on.

The play might be a lot of things but I don't think anybody would describe it as a 'good laugh'.

I wonder what the GAWA playwright thinks about the rival?

what does that mean?

When Marie Jones wrote the play, she admitted that she'd never been to a match. Since then she has joined the Green and White Army and now goes to matches home and away. I was just wondering what she thinks of her play being resurrected, years after it's 'sell by date', given that she's now a member of the 'bigots', that the play criticises.

Oh I misunderstood, I thought WP was a different place these days.

You appear obsessed with presumptions about Marie Jones.
Who gives a fiddlers fart what goes through Marie Jones's head.

So Sammy are you letting pedantry get in the way of a good laugh?
It's play about bigotry the world over, no need to take it so personal just because it's set in the North. I would have thought the location was spot on.

I wonder what the GAWA playwright thinks about the rival?

what does that mean?