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Are you sure Tyrone can't play Cavan again?

I think it might only be avoidance of repeat pairings from Group Stage and provincial finals but could be wrong.

Open to correction on that!

I'm not sure myself.

On the Tailteann thread it says that there will be no draw.

As Antrim have played Down and Sligo so they've been drawn against Kildare or Laois.

So maybe you're right.

Are you sure Tyrone can't play Cavan again?

I think it might only be avoidance of repeat pairings from Group Stage and provincial finals but could be wrong.

For those in favour of scrapping the provincial championships and those in favour of keeping them.

Could we have a happy medium and instead of playing them every year play them every 4 years, similar to the World Cup.

So for 3 years out of 4 play our current format or the new agreed format mentioned in the previous post and then every 4 years revert to the traditional championship format with provincials and a back door.

Could add more prestige to each provincial championship with it being played every 4 years and gives the Munster and Leinster teams 4 years to bridge the gap with them and the likes of Dublin and Kerry without the burden of playing them every year.

From the Irish Examiner.


A competition structure previously used in the Kerry senior football championship is considered the early favourite to replace the current All-Ireland SFC round-robin format.

The idea of a knock-out Sam Maguire Cup with second chances for counties defeated in the first round gained support at roadshow meetings in Munster on Monday and Leinster on Tuesday this week.

It is the first of six options put forward by the Central Competitions Control Committee (CCCC) to change the All-Ireland senior football championship.

The last 16 (Round 1) would comprise the eight provincial finalists in one bowl and the seven best league finishers and Tailteann Cup winners from the previous year.

In Round 2A, the eight winners from the last 16 would face off to earn four All-Ireland quarter-final places while in Round 2B the eight losers would compete to avoid elimination and qualify to face the Round 2A losers in Round 3 for the remaining four last-eight spots.

The document reads: "It is a proposal the CCCC are recommending that counties give serious consideration as it has the potential to ease congestion in the calendar and create a greater 'level' of jeopardy than the current structure with its four-team round-robin groups." The second-round winners and losers structure was in place in Kerry between 2002 and '19 and has been in operation in other counties such as Laois.

Another option the CCCC see merit in is provincial champions going through to the All-Ireland quarter-finals and the other 12 teams competing in four groups of three to join them. However, that would mean a five-week wait to the last-eight games for the Connacht and Munster winners and four for the Leinster and Ulster victors.

The four other suggestions are listed but not endorsed by the CCCC – the introduction of a third tier All-Ireland SFC for Division 3 and 4 teams, a return to knock-out Sam Maguire and Tailteann Cup games post-provincial, operating the provincial championships on a tiered basis as per the Sam Maguire and Tailteann Cup and starting the inter-county season with the provincial championships followed by the Allianz Leagues and then a round-robin All-Ireland.



In compiling the proposals, the CCCC acknowledged the lack of jeopardy in the current system whereby three teams from four qualify for the All-Ireland preliminary quarter-finals. They also highlighted the need for a gap week between the league finals and commencement of the provincial championships at the same time minimising the break between teams going out of the provinces and their first Sam Maguire/Tailteann Cup game. This year, Monaghan had a six-week gap between losing an Ulster opener to Cavan and facing Kerry in their first Sam Maguire group fixture.

Providing a greater reward for provincial champions is considered an issue as is the number of one-sided games in the early rounds of the provincial championships and teams having to play three weekends in a row.

County and provincial representatives in Limerick and Portlaoise were briefed on the options with similar meetings in Ulster and Connacht planned in the coming days. Any proposed changes to the All-Ireland SFC would likely be voted on at Special Congress in December.

Among the other discussion points was either one or both of the All-Ireland senior finals taking place in August – this year's hurling and football showdowns are July 21 and 28 respectively.

While there was some if not a lot of apprehension in Munster about potential contraction of the club season and the time required for dual counties to complete their schedules, at the Leinster gathering there was a call for counties to take stock of their regular inter-county championship exit times in arranging the start dates for their club championships.

Thats the exact same format I suggested at the start of this thread.

I'd be in favour of it.

Apparently Harte (who is well known for remaining mostly calm/emotionless on the sideline for his entire career) is only calm/emotionless on the sideline for Derry becuase "he doesn't give a f**k" about Derry because he's not from Derry. Fanning asked him was he not the same on the sideline for Tyrone, to which Joe bizzarely replied "I don't know what went on in the Tyrone dressing room".

Dont know how Fanning sticks him.

Must be sick of him at this stage.

[France]

Bowl 1:  England, Italy, France, Germany

Bowl 2: Spain, Netherlands, Portugal, Belgium

Bowl 3: Turkey, Austria, Switzerland, Denmark

Bowl 4: Czech Republic, Scotland, Ukraine, Croatia

Bowl 5: Serbia, Poland, Hungary, Romania

Bowl 6: Slovakia, Slovenia, Georgia, Albania

Final: France beats Portugal

See below link to Joe Brolly's latest podcast where he refers to Harte as an Intruder and hails the Offaly U20's. Is the Offaly U20 Manager not a Limerick man. Could be wrong on this?

https://open.spotify.com/episode/6dJyH5IU4dILAlwFmVLccw

[Would love to see them get to a semi or final however.]

Armagh are now 3rd favourites for the all Ireland with some bookies.

A meteoric rise in one weekend.

They've looked good in Ulster final and at the weekend.

But we need to be wary of recency bias.

Would love to see them get to a semi or final however.

Bookies and punters are expecting the group winners to reach the last four.

Armagh couldn't have got any closer to semi finals the last two years with Quarter final penalty shoot out losses. Back in Div 1 again next year which will be their 4th year in the last 5 years in the top division the job and improvement McGeeney has brought to Armagh is underrated IMO.

The funny thing is that Paddy Power have Armagh as favourites for the Galway game.

But Galway as 3rd favourites for All Ireland ahead of Armagh.

Boyle have Armagh at 3rd favourites however.

Paddy Power expecting the return of Comer and Finnerty in a last 12 game it seems.

Why do the media keep inflicting us with South Armagh accents? As if McConville wasn't enough, now we have Aaron Kernan and they also keep interviewing Rian O'Neill.

Rian O'Neill has a lot more Southern Accent than his brother Oisin even.

Some of the Cross lads could pass as Cavan or Louth men.

Risn's room is on the southern side of the house.

Hahaha 🤣

Armagh are now 3rd favourites for the all Ireland with some bookies.

A meteoric rise in one weekend.

They've looked good in Ulster final and at the weekend.

But we need to be wary of recency bias.

Would love to see them get to a semi or final however.

Why do the media keep inflicting us with South Armagh accents? As if McConville wasn't enough, now we have Aaron Kernan and they also keep interviewing Rian O'Neill.

Rian O'Neill has a lot more Southern Accent than his brother Oisin even.

Some of the Cross lads could pass as Cavan or Louth men.

Tir na nOg in portadown and Eire Og in craigavon.

Two big towns for only one club.

North East of the country full of big towns that as a someone living in a 'border' county I would know very little about.

Larne
Newtownards
Bangor
Lisburn
Portadown
Craigavon
Ballymena

Just to name a few.

Are there GAA Clubs in Craigavon, and is there only the one in Portadown?

Mad that Bangor which is now official a city has no club.

Mickey Harte has to walk now surely.

I said Armagh could win that game by 5 or 6 if they believed in themselves... They looked a proper side v Donegal.

Could have won by 20 yesterday.

That Derry team wouldn't win the Tailteann Cup.