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Gordon Lyons is sitting on this for one reason.  He doesn't want the Euros, or any other sizeable event to be held in west Belfast regardless of the benefits it brings to the rest of the city.  Call it what it is.  Bigotry.

Absolutely. Wouldn't it be great if Dublin paid for a proper top class stadium though. 

[we'd all 4 games won]

Agreed tbrick18, that's exactly how I see it ... winning at a canter against a Derry team not up for the fight is one thing, backing it up the next day would be confirmation that Armagh are undisputedly trending upwards in the pecking order.  But that is exactly the opportunity that McGeeney and Armagh want to have, and no better team to square up to than Galway.

There was one penalty between Armagh winning Ulster and the actual result. They have a lot going for them. They also lost the qf on penalties in 2022. They have the class.

We're 4 penalty shootouts away from back to back Ulsters and all ireland semis. Sicken yer fecking hole but we'd all 4 games won and managed to snap a draw from the jaws of victory every time.

Another narrative would be:

Derry were in control for most of the Ulster Final and had Rogers fisted attempt had gone over, for a 3pt lead, instead hitting the post in the 65 minute, Derry would've been home and hosed.

Galway were 6pts up going into injury time and Gleeson had two brain farts. Even with that Walsh(?) hit a cross field pass that was never on, had he taken it into the corner it was game over as well.

True but then against Derry Grugan missed a mark that he'd score 9/10 times, Rian missed a handy free and we gifted them a goal.

Galway fair enough but we did get a bullshit red card that day and it ain't our problem they'd a keeper in with a high ball allergy.

Armagh weren't great last few years I thought. The Galway keeper kept them in it and Derry had a mess of a build up. Monaghan wouldn't be fantastic but they kept them in it. They do appear very good this year though.

We'd a good league, a shite league final bar 15 minutes, good half against Fermanagh, shite against Down, good Ulster final for 50 minutes or whatever it was, then a solid game against Westmeath and were unreal yesterday.

Kind of performance yesterday that we've had in the locker but just havent produced. 3-17 is some scoring, Donegal and Galway didn't beat Derry by as big a margin as we did so as bad they were we were obviously very good as well. Galway will be a different level of challenge though so as great as that win feels we'll need to get focused again for 2 weeks. 

Eamonn Sweeney in the Indo notes Armagh's tendency towards systems failure on close finishes.

A blind man could see that lol

Agreed tbrick18, that's exactly how I see it ... winning at a canter against a Derry team not up for the fight is one thing, backing it up the next day would be confirmation that Armagh are undisputedly trending upwards in the pecking order.  But that is exactly the opportunity that McGeeney and Armagh want to have, and no better team to square up to than Galway.

There was one penalty between Armagh winning Ulster and the actual result. They have a lot going for them. They also lost the qf on penalties in 2022. They have the class.

We're 4 penalty shootouts away from back to back Ulsters and all ireland semis. Sicken yer fecking hole but we'd all 4 games won and managed to snap a draw from the jaws of victory every time.

Yeah in my experience 100k isnt a whole pile on a newer car depending obviously on the make and as long as its been reasonably well looked after.

Taliteann Cup clash of Waterford V Longford had an attendance figure of 75. That's not a typo.

Know a father of one of the players on the Waterford panel. He was at it yesterday.
Last time I was talking to him he did say the Tailteann cup has improved things in terms of players being willing to commit to football and the regular games. However in Waterford their footballers are fighing a battle in terms of the Waterford County Board. A lot of them wish they could do a Kilkenny and not compete in football at all.

Count me in as another who thinks a three-tier championship would make much more sense but I fear that the GAA politics of getting it passed would be close to almost impossible any time soon.

And how would three-tier championship help matters, will it be less or fight for Waterford footballers?  Both Longford and Waterford still had outside chance of reaching the knock out stages and when only 75 people are turning up to watch it I can't imagine any lower tier competition than the Tailteann cup will draw much of an interest.

a realistic chance at winning silverware? If thats not motivation then what is the point. And thats me getting at the county board not the players, you could see after the Tipp game what it meant to them. 

Cork 4pts 4+
Donegal 2pts +5
Tyrone 2pts +7

Going to be an exciting finish to the group in 2 weeks. If Tyrone can beat Cork and stay within 2 points of Donegal's score (assuming they beat Clare) then we'll top the group.

Cork just have to Draw and they top the group

Donegal need a win and beat Tyrone's score by 1 and they'll take it on the top spot (assuming tyrone beat cork)

If the 3 finish level the score differences will be from the games between the 3.
Clare games won't count.

Yes they will.

The Galway match is just one for winning, it could be a dour watch for neutrals.

Would we have won that way yesterday with Ciaran Mackin, Murnin and Peter McGrane (as Ross McQuillan made such a huge difference)? Probably not, maybe the unfortunate circumstances could give the management more impetus to be brave every time

the 3 that didn't start/came off you mentioned are as good as the 3 that did and probably similar enough players as well so hard to say. Think it was the bravery of how we set up rather than the personnel that made the difference. Hope Murnin is back for Galway as he's been brilliant this year but has a job getting his place back.

Wouldn't mind seeing either him or Oisin in for Soupy the next day. 

The Brendan Rogers fist pass that went badly off target leading to the second goal, it's difficult to legislate for such poor implementation of the basics ...  never mind Rogers lack of an attempt to get a tackle in on the way up the field ...

https://youtu.be/N_N7bbRteTA?t=156

Rodgers had more than a couple of sloppy plays yesterday, but in fairness to him, he sprinted the whole way back. Not sure who you want him to tackle when the ball is 20 yards up the field ahead of him.

I think it's wrong to pin point mistakes like this - they things happen to every player.  Look at the Louth ball out yesterday, plus the Westmeath cross-field pass.  All three resulted in goals.
These things happen. All players, managers and referees etc. make mistakes.  They don't need to.

The pass didn't loss Derry the game. It was lost when the referee threw up the ball.   

Nothing more than an observation. Derry's midfield is normally such a platform for them and yesterday they were wiped out

The three Armagh boys across the middle were phenomenal, haven't enjoyed a game so much in a long long time. Just hope we can follow it up with a performance against Galway

It was reminiscent of 2022 when we steamrolled Tyrone and Donegal. Fast, front foot and aggressive in the tackle. We have nothing to lose as nobody expects us to win Sam. Just keep playing like that and see where it takes us, we've shown we have the firepower.

That was the best midfield performance in a long while. Crealey has won me over with his performances this championship and we know what Rian is capable of. The big surprise was Grimleys selection but he more than justified it, he's always had the ability but seemed luckless with injuries at times.

Yeah midfield is where we thought we'd struggle this year, fair play to Crealey whos been excellent

3 tiers would be grand. A top 8 straight knock out championship would be unreal.

Pity. Too many one sided games at the minute. 

You mean like  four QFs ? One match and you're gone?

Would be madly competitive. 16 in the top tier is too much imo.

Aye, a straight knock out  would be great , but the GAA aren't going to  kill the  golden goose.

Nope, better to have  lots of meaningless group matches, with second and third   chances .  The GAA aren't going to go back  to Meath/Dublin 1991 or Derry/Down 1994 where one heavyweight  goes out on the opening weekend.

The Brendan Rogers fist pass that went badly off target leading to the second goal, it's difficult to legislate for such poor implementation of the basics ...  never mind Rogers lack of an attempt to get a tackle in on the way up the field ...

https://youtu.be/N_N7bbRteTA?t=156

Probably not the best idea to leave a fella like Turbitt with only the goalkeeper in his half

Taliteann Cup clash of Waterford V Longford had an attendance figure of 75. That's not a typo.

Ffs. How much was it in?

That I don't know

Thats a real shame and you'd feel for the players who are giving a huge commitment to play county football no matter the standard.

Should be free tickets given out in primary schools etc for the likes of that to encourage people to go.

Taliteann Cup clash of Waterford V Longford had an attendance figure of 75. That's not a typo.

Ffs. How much was it in?

3 tiers would be grand. A top 8 straight knock out championship would be unreal.

You mean like  four QFs ? One match and you're gone?

Would be madly competitive. 16 in the top tier is too much imo.