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[Microphones at county level might work but not at club.]

Jimmy McGuinness writing today and Rory Gallagher crying about the treatment of Michael Murphy yesterday is a wee bit cringeworthy. It was clear to see the Donegal players at it on Sunday as well. I'm sure Gallagher is deflecting the negative attention away from their own players and maybe sowing a seed in referees heads for the games ahead this summer.

The bottom line is that managers actually need to admit that their own players are guilty of it too and actually try and deal with their own offenders rather than lighting the sympathy fires.  At least Sean Cavanagh came out and said that he as well as Michael Murphy were getting the treatment.

There's no place for sledging in our games but its hard to find a solution to it. Microphones at county level might work but not at club.

Can you imagine if microphones were introduced.... think about it.... being tackled etc, where would the microphone be??? Time outs to try and refix them etc. Disaster.

Microphones are so small now you could sew them into the collar or the likes.

Be easy enough you could get your girlfriend/wife to do it, I hear shes an auld.......

Oh you Northerners are always at it!!!

[thuggery etc is justified]

This a noedie thing and the blame lies fairly at yere door for the current state of our game. On all teams over the decades there have been dirty players and mouthpieces, when it was one or two on a team refs could deal with it, but now is has become a culture, it is undoubtedly being encouraged and coached by team management among the northern counties, that is plain to see from the actions on the field.
There were 4 other championship matches last weekend, has there been one  issue from any of the other games, these were all matches with intense rivalry, Longford-Offaly is a long running saga but they showed respect for one another played football to the best of their ability and won or took their defeat in a manly manner, maybe the nordies could follow suit or are their games bigger and more important so thuggery etc is justified. Your actions on the field reflect your society, yes I said at the outset that every county has their hard men or mouthpieces but in most counties it is the exception rather than the rule, but when your county encourages thuggery and makes excuses after well.......

Please explain.... thuggery?? Where did you see thuggery on display on Sunday.

And here we go again all the Northern Teams! Is this true? Please name the teams you speak of.

[Microphones at county level might work but not at club.]

Jimmy McGuinness writing today and Rory Gallagher crying about the treatment of Michael Murphy yesterday is a wee bit cringeworthy. It was clear to see the Donegal players at it on Sunday as well. I'm sure Gallagher is deflecting the negative attention away from their own players and maybe sowing a seed in referees heads for the games ahead this summer.

The bottom line is that managers actually need to admit that their own players are guilty of it too and actually try and deal with their own offenders rather than lighting the sympathy fires.  At least Sean Cavanagh came out and said that he as well as Michael Murphy were getting the treatment.

There's no place for sledging in our games but its hard to find a solution to it. Microphones at county level might work but not at club.

Can you imagine if microphones were introduced.... think about it.... being tackled etc, where would the microphone be??? Time outs to try and refix them etc. Disaster.

[I think people listen to these "analysts" and can't think for themselves.]

To say that Tyrone or Ulster teams are the worst or the only team to sledge is simply bullshit.
Its something which can never be monitored especially by a bunch of keyboard warriors like us who only get to sit about 6 foot from the TV and watch a live broad cast or highlights - which means we are only as clued in as a cameraman at best or at worst Joe brolly...no referee has ever written about it or made wild comparisons and they are the ones with the most knowledge on the subject, given that they are close to the action and have experience of different teams...every county is as bad as each other...and for fans of a county claim that "their great bunch of lads' would never do such a thing is wide of the mark.

Ulster for too long as been an easy target because any commentator representing Ulster, excluding big Tohil, NEVER makes a stand and simply capitulates to the bias from Spillane AND from Brolly too

Totally agree Dermy. This "It's the Northern Teams" is getting a bit tired. I think people listen to these "analysts" and can't think for themselves. Go back to the 'puke' football quote which still is thrown about today.

In the U21 final I didn't see any antics and gave out about Tipp's response and to be honest I did see it as sour grapes on their behalf. I cannot be two-faced and now not say the same with what is being said by the captain. If things are that bad why not highlight it during the league or after the U21 victory..... if it is happening all the time and he's concerned!

Why is this the default response to this? I find it insulting.

On numerous occasions I have said it is NOT just Tyrone or Ulster teams doing it, or who have been doing it. In fact I highlighted a couple of instances with our own minors. It does seem to be more heightened up in the Ulster Championship, or among Ulster teams, but they didn't invent it, nor are they the only ones doing it.  As for the puke football thing, I think I have defended that Tyrone team on numerous occasions. They were a fantastic team with fantastic players.

What does appear to be different is that only, by and large, its some Ulster lads on here that seem to be blasé about it, or think it's all part of the game. I think it's wrong, and I think it's unmanly, and I think it is very cynical because the aim is to have a lad retaliate and get sent off. I'm involved with teams, and while I am not currently involved with a senior intercounty team, I have been involved in underage and development county teams, and I would not tolerate any of my players behaving like that. It might be effective, but that does not make it right.

Well said! I agree. I don't think it should be part of the game - I like the saying do your talking ON the field. I want to see a defender not get an advantage by mouthing at his marker. Instead get out in front for the ball, take your man on, catch a high ball and run out with it. That is the only talking you should do - show them skill, talent etc.

When I say some people listen to these analysts I mean people even with my own county who on a Monday morning repeat exactly what they hear on the Sunday Game etc. No one is without bias.

To say that Tyrone or Ulster teams are the worst or the only team to sledge is simply bullshit.
Its something which can never be monitored especially by a bunch of keyboard warriors like us who only get to sit about 6 foot from the TV and watch a live broad cast or highlights - which means we are only as clued in as a cameraman at best or at worst Joe brolly...no referee has ever written about it or made wild comparisons and they are the ones with the most knowledge on the subject, given that they are close to the action and have experience of different teams...every county is as bad as each other...and for fans of a county claim that "their great bunch of lads' would never do such a thing is wide of the mark.

Ulster for too long as been an easy target because any commentator representing Ulster, excluding big Tohil, NEVER makes a stand and simply capitulates to the bias from Spillane AND from Brolly too

Totally agree Dermy. This "It's the Northern Teams" is getting a bit tired. I think people listen to these "analysts" and can't think for themselves. Go back to the 'puke' football quote which still is thrown about today.

In the U21 final I didn't see any antics and gave out about Tipp's response and to be honest I did see it as sour grapes on their behalf. I cannot be two-faced and now not say the same with what is being said by the captain. If things are that bad why not highlight it during the league or after the U21 victory..... if it is happening all the time and he's concerned!

I am actually embarrassed by Sean. After the game Murphy was interviewed about what went on and dismissed it saying it was nothing. It is not the first time our captain has ran to the papers - Mickey Harte should put a ban on him talking. The reason why I am embarrassed as that on Sunday after Murphy took a freekick Cavanagh ran up to him and started clapping in his face which is why Murphy ran at him - double standards here Mr Cavanagh. Please say other Tyrone supports feel the same and make sure that people know this isn't the views of us.
I though Sunday's game was excellent, a real Championship match! It wasn't the lack-lustre low scoring match must people predicted.