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Some performance from Glen ,,, they brought the game to them

Where all the wingers now about calling the game off lol

Hard to watch. What has jimmy learned and brought to the table from his pro soccer coaching career.. FA by the looks of it

Was Paraic Farrelly a poster on here? Loads of Gaa related tweets he had. He died suddenly RIP.

Seen that. Not sure. I thought his Twitter was a parody for a long time

Can't believe it's not on Tg4.Strange to opt with O'Byrne cup

On TG4 YouTube though isn't it?

Try telling that my 70 year old father ...

What's his number?

You can explain how he can watch it on the tv

Can't believe it's not on Tg4.Strange to opt with O'Byrne cup

On TG4 YouTube though isn't it?

Try telling that my 70 year old father ...

Tell him to go to YouTube.com, type in tg4 and click the big tg4 logo and away he goes. Easy.

Yeah every 70+ year old has a computer....

Who needs a computer? YouTube is available on phone, tablet, TV, computer etc. Pretty sure you can get fridges with YouTube now.
 At the end of the day tg4 can only show one game at a time. The natural step is to put the other one on a platform that can be reached by 99.9% of the audience.

They are showing the ladies game instead, it's a pity! Not all older daddies are tech savvy... and most like to watch on tv screen ..

Can't believe it's not on Tg4.Strange to opt with O'Byrne cup

On TG4 YouTube though isn't it?

Try telling that my 70 year old father ...

Can't believe it's not on Tg4.Strange to opt with O'Byrne cup

How are teams relegated to Intermediate and Junior championships in Cavan? I understand winning is the pathway to the level above, but how do you go about going down?

1 up 1 down. Essentially the bottom 4 in the group stages play off in relegation semi finals, and then losers play relegation final when the Championship quarters, semi etc are ongoing. So overall loser relegated and replaced by below Championship winner. You have to win to move up, lose to move down

Only exception to this is when rejigging numbers, and the odd year you relegate 2 and so on. Covid also messed it here when none were relegated in 2020, but had a promotion, so 2 were relegated in 2021 and so on to rejig numbers across the 3 Championships

Your league is a farce so and handy for outside managers to make a few bob. Mess about in the league and win an odd game in champ and your grand.

Lose a few games in Monaghan and Tyrone in the league and your gone,you get found out pretty quick.

Yes, mostly. Not for the everyday club player, but mostly. Split season the issue here overall. Glad you've finally caught up

Managers still lose their jobs. Might not be as valued, but you can't lose all your games either. My own team cut their manager mid League last season.

So the league is juat a waste of time so. What's tbe point of lads playing if no interest in it.

Being a club manager in Cavan must be handy money...and no pressure.

There is interest in it, just a much lesser competition and a great chance for lads on the fringes to exposure to a higher level in a club with second team, or for bringing young lads through.

I'd argue taking the league so seriously is a gimmick managers use to rip clubs off and charge more for their services with all the additional training and fitness stats. You cannot expect club players to be at peak from March to October. So I'd take it with a pinch of salt how tough the leagues are or at least how practical it is from a player welfare POV.

Whatever little joy is left in the club game is slowly being sucked away completely by these "professional" managerial setups and they always know how to charge regardless of results. Northern managers are notorious for it and they're picking up plenty of work in Cavan. Indeed in Dreadnought's own club it was a northern duo who unceremoniously got the gate. Seriously ignorant pair completely stuck up their own holes and extremely detrimental to player morale and development. 

Very backward way of looking at it! Why would you train less than before champ?

You pay for what you get

Of course you have to train but you need to develop players too and you won't do that by sickening a large portion of the group who you have no intention of giving any meaningful time to. Or in some cases being on players back over the Xmas long long before anything will be kicked. That's OTT for ordinary club players.

I know what they pay for. These lads are paid by the training session. Any it's always the fix for every problem, more sessions, more sessions, more sessions.

It's the difference in winning and losing. You want to do it or you don't. The top club teams manage themselves. Well training is how you get better...

How are teams relegated to Intermediate and Junior championships in Cavan? I understand winning is the pathway to the level above, but how do you go about going down?

1 up 1 down. Essentially the bottom 4 in the group stages play off in relegation semi finals, and then losers play relegation final when the Championship quarters, semi etc are ongoing. So overall loser relegated and replaced by below Championship winner. You have to win to move up, lose to move down

Only exception to this is when rejigging numbers, and the odd year you relegate 2 and so on. Covid also messed it here when none were relegated in 2020, but had a promotion, so 2 were relegated in 2021 and so on to rejig numbers across the 3 Championships

Your league is a farce so and handy for outside managers to make a few bob. Mess about in the league and win an odd game in champ and your grand.

Lose a few games in Monaghan and Tyrone in the league and your gone,you get found out pretty quick.

Yes, mostly. Not for the everyday club player, but mostly. Split season the issue here overall. Glad you've finally caught up

Managers still lose their jobs. Might not be as valued, but you can't lose all your games either. My own team cut their manager mid League last season.

So the league is juat a waste of time so. What's tbe point of lads playing if no interest in it.

Being a club manager in Cavan must be handy money...and no pressure.

There is interest in it, just a much lesser competition and a great chance for lads on the fringes to exposure to a higher level in a club with second team, or for bringing young lads through.

I'd argue taking the league so seriously is a gimmick managers use to rip clubs off and charge more for their services with all the additional training and fitness stats. You cannot expect club players to be at peak from March to October. So I'd take it with a pinch of salt how tough the leagues are or at least how practical it is from a player welfare POV.

Whatever little joy is left in the club game is slowly being sucked away completely by these "professional" managerial setups and they always know how to charge regardless of results. Northern managers are notorious for it and they're picking up plenty of work in Cavan. Indeed in Dreadnought's own club it was a northern duo who unceremoniously got the gate. Seriously ignorant pair completely stuck up their own holes and extremely detrimental to player morale and development. 

Very backward way of looking at it! Why would you train less than before champ?

You pay for what you get

[Kerry divisional teams are another joke]

I mentioned it before, but the biggest issue seems to be they had played, and maintained their division 1 league status, and played in a junior championship. 

Had it been intermediate championship they had won, I would say people, like myself, could reconcile more with that. 

This is coming from my own point of view where, in Armagh, the leagues and championships are linked, the idea of a senior league team entering a junior championship would seem preposterous, and the outcome would be inevitable. 

In fairness, it's mad a Div 1 team, last year and this year, are playing in Junior Championship.

In south Derry you'd be looked down on if that happened. Clubs would nearly take you to court over a technicality to stay in Div. 1 and play senior championship.

If Arva were maybe Div. 1 and played Intermediate, you'd nearly let it slide but junior!  Kerry divisional teams are another joke

Regardless, the inter-county club championships are fantastic and are very enjoyable over the long winter months.  Great viewing at all levels, between the 2 codes.

At the risk of opening another can of worms, I really think the divisional sides are class as they get lads from small clubs playing a far better standard than they normally would.

Do think something needs done about them sending their 9th best to to intermediate though.

Sure don't they have regional championships in Kerry too, like south Kerry champ etc.

Is there 70 odd clubs in Kerry? The Team that finished 3rd in their Div 1 lost the junior champ final.

How on earth is that happening? Are 50 of their clubs playing junior champ?

[basically anyone sniffing around a county panel will be kicked off it if they play club league. This is something I completely and utterly disagree with and really annoys]

The League is hardly a friendly competition. Players who don't perform will not be in contention for a championship start. Winning a league is a nice feather for a manager so long as he doesn't flop come championship. Same as performing poorly in the league will either be forgiven if you go well in championship, or it will be used as a stick to further beat a manager with if he also performs poorly come championship. But this is all old news to any GAA fan. I think some on here are being deliberately disingenuous. 

And just on the unavailability of county players for league. "County player" is a bit of a stretch. Lads not within an ass's roar of a match day panel, basically anyone sniffing around a county panel will be kicked off it if they play club league. This is something I completely and utterly disagree with and really annoys me but was introduced by, funnily enough a Tyrone man and his Monaghan side kick. Then the new man after them kept it going.

Annoys me as well. Would do those lads far better to be getting football every week instead of managers sickening them with training

Vinny Corey allowed all players outside 24 to play league games last year

How are teams relegated to Intermediate and Junior championships in Cavan? I understand winning is the pathway to the level above, but how do you go about going down?

1 up 1 down. Essentially the bottom 4 in the group stages play off in relegation semi finals, and then losers play relegation final when the Championship quarters, semi etc are ongoing. So overall loser relegated and replaced by below Championship winner. You have to win to move up, lose to move down

Only exception to this is when rejigging numbers, and the odd year you relegate 2 and so on. Covid also messed it here when none were relegated in 2020, but had a promotion, so 2 were relegated in 2021 and so on to rejig numbers across the 3 Championships

Your league is a farce so and handy for outside managers to make a few bob. Mess about in the league and win an odd game in champ and your grand.

Lose a few games in Monaghan and Tyrone in the league and your gone,you get found out pretty quick.

[But the other counties shouldn't have to run up against teams playing or preparing for a championship (regardless if they were rock bottom) while playing in the counties div 1 league, the level and effort required is higher. Kerry have milked the shit right out of it.]

Maybe, just maybe, some here might realise that League is just different in most counties and not taken as seriously. The fact that teams play the whole thing (relegation play off excepted) with no county players, and that it's 2 up 2 down makes it different. A team can indeed get promoted while losing a final. So completely different than Championship when you go up only by winning the thing through. Isn't it more likely that teams not good enough go up a level? By that very metric, League placing are not as important than Championship ones. To get promoted in Championship, you've shown you're good enough in Championship. Same with relegation, be poor enough you go down. We cannot say the same about League.

This absolute knicker twisting about League is only new since inter county linked, and it's still mainly by Championship performance first - then League. Remember that the majority of the 16 Sam positions are still filled by Championship results with provincial final and Tailteann winners. That system rewards Championship, and only fills in the remaining minority with League to fill it up. Jeez, have you folk actually forgot what the GAA is about? It's Championship. I'll name you Cavan, Ulster, and All Ireland Champions off the top of my head going back at least 50 years. Can't tell you who won the various Leagues a few years back... That's tells you all

You simply have to accept that the anomaly in a county that doesn't link is the League. Not the other way round. Can you for a second look at it from the other direction and see that maybe it is Championship that begets Championship. Not this new League obsession that you don't understand and you try to twist to suit a narrative. If your county links, sure whatever. Go for it. But don't apply those standards to one who doesn't as teams would them otherwise try harder in League. Because it's not, they don't and you can't apply this retroactively. It's that simple

I have said, regardless of the other bandwagon jumpers, that Cavan and Avra have done nowt wrong, how Cavan and Kerry run their championships is totally down to them and if it makes them a stronger county for that or allows players to concentrate on championship then brilliant.

But the other counties shouldn't have to run up against teams playing or preparing for a championship (regardless if they were rock bottom) while playing in the counties div 1 league, the level and effort required is higher. Kerry have milked the shit right out of it.

Other counties could have a monopoly of winning the All Ireland championships at intermediate and Junior but chose not too, namely Dublin and Cork

How are you still not getting it? You are still valuing League placings higher than you should. You simply need to look past placings in a devalued competition, and instead look at the actual top level way of seeing placings - Championship.

You are the one not getting it.... Every single post is just denial.. bla bla this is how we do things in Cavan.. bla bla we don't link our league and champ.. bla bla how can no one understand this? FS we all understand what you're saying.....

I mentioned it before, but the biggest issue seems to be they had played, and maintained their division 1 league status, and played in a junior championship. 

Had it been intermediate championship they had won, I would say people, like myself, could reconcile more with that. 

This is coming from my own point of view where, in Armagh, the leagues and championships are linked, the idea of a senior league team entering a junior championship would seem preposterous, and the outcome would be inevitable. 

The only people who believe it's normal are Cavan people.