http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=bp3OFfOpowc (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=bp3OFfOpowc)
My favourite Stevie G goal
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=kM5XP-Ps7tk&feature=related
Ronaldo...sure did yous not hear....he's the BEST PLAYER IN THE WORLD ;) ;)
On straight Scrabble-scoring of surnames, Stevie loses 8-15.
And named as a result of paternal admiration for Ronald Reagan, resplendent right-winger Ronaldo, registers 8.
Sorry. It's none of my business. I usually manage quite well to ignore the inane soccer threads on this site (any one of which usually has more posts than all the GAA threads combined). I just skip on when I see thread titles about soccer (and also the ones where the girls and the frustrated young lads here conduct teenage immaturity competitions). I generally manage to ignore the obsession with the British entertainment industry exhibited by those here who spend the rest of their time outdoing each other in braggadocio about their credentials as better Irishmen than most of us and mocking the Britishness of the unionist soccer supporters here. I should be a bigger man, but I cite months of forbearance as an excuse for this momentary lapse:
WHAT SANE SENSIBLE ADULT COULD GIVE A F**K ABOUT THE RELATIVE MERITS OF TWO ENGLISH SOCCER MILLIONAIRES OR WHOS (sic) BETTER THAN THE OTHER?
I feel better now.
QuoteRonaldo...sure did yous not hear....he's the BEST PLAYER IN THE WORLD ;)
As voted by his fellow professionals as well so no arguing that one.
Quote from: Hardy on October 28, 2008, 08:37:46 AM
WHAT SANE SENSIBLE ADULT COULD GIVE A F**K ABOUT THE RELATIVE MERITS OF TWO ENGLISH SOCCER MILLIONAIRES OR WHOS (sic) BETTER THAN THE OTHER?
soccer fans at a guess
Very good, nifan. I never thought of that. Anyway, my grumpy rant was not meant as a logical analysis. More a case of the usual puzzled shake of the head erupting into a scream of frustrated failure to comprehend why this shite can mean so much to people.
But carry on. It's a free country.
QuoteWHAT SANE SENSIBLE ADULT COULD GIVE A F**K ABOUT THE RELATIVE MERITS OF TWO ENGLISH SOCCER MILLIONAIRES OR WHOS (sic) BETTER THAN THE OTHER?
soccer fans at a guess
Make that Liverpool & Chelsea fans. The rest of us don't really care ;)
Quote from: Hardy on October 28, 2008, 08:37:46 AM
Sorry. It's none of my business. I usually manage quite well to ignore the inane soccer threads on this site (any one of which usually has more posts than all the GAA threads combined). I just skip on when I see thread titles about soccer (and also the ones where the girls and the frustrated young lads here conduct teenage immaturity competitions). I generally manage to ignore the obsession with the British entertainment industry exhibited by those here who spend the rest of their time outdoing each other in braggadocio about their credentials as better Irishmen than most of us and mocking the Britishness of the unionist soccer supporters here. I should be a bigger man, but I cite months of forbearance as an excuse for this momentary lapse:
WHAT SANE SENSIBLE ADULT COULD GIVE A F**K ABOUT THE RELATIVE MERITS OF TWO ENGLISH SOCCER MILLIONAIRES OR WHOS (sic) BETTER THAN THE OTHER?
I feel better now.
Fellas with opinions like yours always amuse me..
Seriously why do you care what other people care about?
What exactly is the problem you have? Is it the fact they are millionaires? Because to be honest i don't see what that has to do with anything.I have been a fan of soccer since the early '80s.There wasn't the level of money in the sport as there is now,Bad pitches,awful run down stadiums and players like Ian Rush were earning around £300 a week..
I didn't start liking soccer because the players were wealthy so I don't understand why you feel the need to mention that.
Or is it because they are English if they were Spanish or German would you care as much? As far as I'm concerned politics have no place in sport I don't really care that I support a English team because its the club I support not Liverpool as a city..
You ask why would anyone care about which player is better than the other..Well forgive me or any other soccer fan who has followed a club for over 20 years and put time and money into supporting them wanting the best players at the club they support..Gerrard and Lampard are two of the best players in what is the Worlds most popular sport,why wouldn't people discuss which of the two is better what exactly is wrong with it...
Would you have a problem with two fellas discussing the merits of two race horses?
Finally,on the non-gaa discussion side of the board there are 3 maybe 4 threads on American Football,Fantasy Baseball or something and a General American sports thread..
Amercian sportstars earn several times more than Premiership footballers,I have no interest in any American sport but yet I have no problem with anyone else discussing it on the board,How come you never asked the question as to why AZ Offaly and Jinky discuss or even care what happens in American football or whatever they discuss on those threads?
I work hard,soccer its a interest i have away from work and away from all the problems and worries I have in life and trying to run a business..
What harm am I doing or anyone else doing discussing the abilities of two athletes at the top of their game?
Soccer is a huge part of my life and so is Gaa but they are only sports at the end of the day,I have a dozen things more important in my life than soccer or Gaa,They are not my life but a part of it.
So to finish my ramblings
DON'T BE WORRYING YOURSELF AS TO WHY OTHER PEOPLE HAVE DIFFERENT INTRESTS THAN YOU DO
I feel better now
Quote from: nifan on October 28, 2008, 08:54:27 AM
Quote from: Hardy on October 28, 2008, 08:37:46 AM
WHAT SANE SENSIBLE ADULT COULD GIVE A F**K ABOUT THE RELATIVE MERITS OF TWO ENGLISH SOCCER MILLIONAIRES OR WHOS (sic) BETTER THAN THE OTHER?
soccer fans at a guess
I consider myself a soccer fan and my first thought was "who cares?"
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on October 28, 2008, 10:32:55 PM
Seriously why do you care what other people care about?
Why do you care enough about what I care about to write half a page about it? It's a free country, as I said. You don't need my permission. Continue to support/discuss who/what you want. And I'll probably continue to be amazed that this shite matters so much to so many people.
It's all sh1te. If you watch a film the main star is getting paid too much. Stock brokers get million pound bonuses. Katie Price gets paid a fortune and has done f*$k all other than get her t*ts out. It's called Capitalism.
Should all discussions on movies, football, general elections, comedians etc. stop (pretty much everything on the front page of the non football section) as they are paid too much?
Ah no.
I'm not saying anything should stop. I'm only saying I can't understand why people care so much about English soccer teams. I'd be annoyed if anybody said I should stop saying that.
It's a free country.
Quote from: Hardy on October 29, 2008, 10:28:36 AM
Ah no.
I'm not saying anything should stop. I'm only saying I can't understand why people care so much about English soccer teams. I'd be annoyed if anybody said I should stop saying that.
It's a free country.
That answers that so..Its because its English you have a problem with it..
Is it ok in your world to support Scottish soccer teams or American Football teams?
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on October 29, 2008, 11:00:04 AM
That answers that so..Its because its English you have a problem with it.
That's a strange conclusion to draw from my statement. By your logic you might as easily conclude it's because it's soccer or because it's teams.
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Is it ok in your world to support Scottish soccer teams or American Football teams?
Why does my opinion matter so much to you? But since you ask, everything is OK in my world as long as it respects the rights and needs of others.
So, in the spirit of our discussion - is it OK (in your world) for me to say I can't understand why the doings of English professional soccer millionaires and teams seem to matter so much to so many people.
QuoteI'm not saying anything should stop. I'm only saying I can't understand why people care so much about English soccer teams.
Its easy to look at the English soccer league nowadays and be disgusted by the greed, cheating, laziness and complete lack of loyalty that is all pervasive. I would venture to suggest that it wasn't always like that and by way of trying to explain I'll let you in on my explanation for myself. I grew up next door to a family with two lads and along with myself and my two bros we were as thick as thieves. The neighbours Dad was and still is a huge Manchester United fan. He grew up hearing of and occasionally seeing footage of the Busby Babes and then Best, Law and Charlton. My memories of my younger days are of playing soccer in the neighbours garden for hours and pretending to be Duncan Edwards or George Best. Of course we got dogs abuse at school from supporters of other teams, one in particular, cause United could hardly win an argument in those days but you had Stapleton, Moran, McGrath, Whiteside and Robson and the occasional FA Cup. Those lads, while well enough paid, were totally different animals than you get nowadays. They played HARD. Gave and took belts and got on with it. No rolling about like puppies looking for their bellies to be rubbed.
As time went by I got more and more into the GAA but I still love dropping in next door to chat himself about United and when the brother who is in the US now calls me its always discussed. Its a part, wrongly or rightly, of how I was brought up and I can't see how I'd be any other way. I don't think I'm as mental into it as many (saw a half dozen lads jumping up and down like maniacs the other week when their team equalised against Wigan!) but each to their own. I've other things that my passions really get let loose on.
Hope that gives you a bit of insight into "where it all went wrong" for me Hardy! The attachment came at a different time and even though its not as attractive nowadays it still exists.
Quote from: magpie seanie on October 29, 2008, 11:23:45 AM
QuoteI'm not saying anything should stop. I'm only saying I can't understand why people care so much about English soccer teams.
Its easy to look at the English soccer league nowadays and be disgusted by the greed, cheating, laziness and complete lack of loyalty that is all pervasive. I would venture to suggest that it wasn't always like that and by way of trying to explain I'll let you in on my explanation for myself. I grew up next door to a family with two lads and along with myself and my two bros we were as thick as thieves. The neighbours Dad was and still is a huge Manchester United fan. He grew up hearing of and occasionally seeing footage of the Busby Babes and then Best, Law and Charlton. My memories of my younger days are of playing soccer in the neighbours garden for hours and pretending to be Duncan Edwards or George Best. Of course we got dogs abuse at school from supporters of other teams, one in particular, cause United could hardly win an argument in those days but you had Stapleton, Moran, McGrath, Whiteside and Robson and the occasional FA Cup. Those lads, while well enough paid, were totally different animals than you get nowadays. They played HARD. Gave and took belts and got on with it. No rolling about like puppies looking for their bellies to be rubbed.
As time went by I got more and more into the GAA but I still love dropping in next door to chat himself about United and when the brother who is in the US now calls me its always discussed. Its a part, wrongly or rightly, of how I was brought up and I can't see how I'd be any other way. I don't think I'm as mental into it as many (saw a half dozen lads jumping up and down like maniacs the other week when their team equalised against Wigan!) but each to their own. I've other things that my passions really get let loose on.
Hope that gives you a bit of insight into "where it all went wrong" for me Hardy! The attachment came at a different time and even though its not as attractive nowadays it still exists.
Agree 100% with Seanie, now im away for a shower. I feel dirty.
To come clean, Seanie and Minder, my own history is not much different. I chose Man. Utd. as my team as a young fella, after reading in the comics about the Busby Babes, Munich, etc. and they were my team for years. I was Denis Law, heading in goals in the back garden.
The only difference to your experience is that I was probably never as passionate about it as you and I gave up on it gradually over the years, due to the combination of the realisation that the exploits of the overpaid employees of a foreign corporation in a city far away could never have any meaningful effect in my life and a growing disgust at the worsening antics of these spoiled mercenary cheats.
So I'm being a bit disingenuous in saying I don't understand how English professional soccer matters so much to so many people here. I did understand it once. But I genuinely don't understand how anyone could give a toss about it as it is today.
QuoteI was Denis Law, heading in goals in the back garden.
I wasn't allowed to be him as the neighbours Dad was him!
Quote from: Hardy on October 29, 2008, 11:21:10 AM
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Is it ok in your world to support Scottish soccer teams or American Football teams?
Why does my opinion matter so much to you? But since you ask, everything is OK in my world as long as it respects the rights and needs of others.
So, in the spirit of our discussion - is it OK (in your world) for me to say I can't understand why the doings of English professional soccer millionaires and teams seem to matter so much to so many people.
As this is a discussion board I understood we were discussing a topic and I was asking you a further question as to why you think as you do..
Also saying "I can't understand why the doings of English professional soccer millionaires and teams seem to matter so much to so many people." is completely different from saying WHAT SANE SENSIBLE ADULT COULD GIVE A F**K ABOUT THE RELATIVE MERITS OF TWO ENGLISH SOCCER MILLIONAIRES OR WHOS (sic) BETTER THAN THE OTHER?
If you at first had said you don't understand why rather than insult the millions of adults who do give a f**k then it would have been a different conversation from the outset and I could have given you reasons like magpie seanie did as to the reasons why soccer means so much or use to mean so much to the fans that follow it
Quote from: Hardy on October 29, 2008, 11:21:10 AM
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on October 29, 2008, 11:00:04 AM
That answers that so..Its because its English you have a problem with it.
That's a strange conclusion to draw from my statement. By your logic you might as easily conclude it's because it's soccer or because it's teams.
I wouldn't consider it a strange conclusion,you keep mentioning England and English teams..Plenty of people in Ireland support Scottish teams but you just keep mentioning English teams...If I'm wrong i apologise but I'm only making a conclusion on what you post..
I would still love to know why you get so annoyed about soccer threads etc but not American sports threads and why did you feel the need to post that you didn't understand why people follow soccer but not why someone would follow a American Football team 3000 miles away?,but only if its ok to ask your opinion on a discussion board....
Given it plenty of thought this last couple of seasons and finally today I have decided on a definite answer and that answer is -
Fabregas is better than the both of them
Yeeoow Up da Gunners
Quote from: billy the kid on October 29, 2008, 05:16:07 PM
Given it plenty of thought this last couple of seasons and finally today I have decided on a definite answer and that answer is -
Fabregas is better than the both of them
Yeeoow Up da Gunners
If they all play to their best I would have Fabregas over Gerrard or Lampard too
Laoislad - no need for apologies. Don't be taking things so seriously. Leave me alone in my puzzlement about the popularity of English soccer. I'm sorry it seems to bother you so much, but don't take it as a personal insult.
Since you're interested I would add Scottish soccer. I'd dislike that because a lot of it seems to exist as a vehicle for sectarianism. As regards American football, I'm not interested in that either. But I don't see it dominating the conversation here the way soccer does.