The way the lad burst through what is now Ireland's best defence (since three weeks ago), risking life and limb, with two or three Tyrone defenders homing in, and the quality finish, makes it better in my opinion than Mulligan's goal in 2005. After all Mulligan was isolated when he got possession and sold the same dummy twice to two naive Dublin defenders, and had loads of time to pick his spot,unlike young Lyng.
You must be bored today Tony - starting sh1te like this :D
For the record I think Mulligans goal was better
Nah Tone you're talking shit!
Mulligans goal reigns supreme. Even before the ball got to Mulligan, it was collected initially by O'Neill...did you see his pick up under pressure. Everything about the goal was class.
Mulligan's was better by a mile, especially since it actually had an impact on the game....Lyng's goal was irrelevant.
great goal by Lyng, but better than Mulligans... don't think so. I actually prefered Pearce O Neil's goal for Cork over Lyng's, a more delicate and precise finish
Nah. McKeever's for Armagh against Dublin in 2002 was the best ever.
mulligans goal was illegal
Pearse O'Neills goal was the best of the day.
Jesus Tony, you're so transparent
QuoteJesus Tony, you're so transparent
Those sitting behind him on matchday might beg to differ on that one! ;D
Quote from: man in black on September 02, 2008, 09:45:28 AM
mulligans goal was illegal
doesn't it show you how stupid some of the rules are when you have a ref here telling us it was illegal...thank god you were not in charge of that game...fussy p***k
Quote from: Jinxy on September 02, 2008, 10:25:04 AM
Pearse O'Neills goal was the best of the day.
would agree with Jinxy here.
Lyngs goal wasnt even that good , if the keeper had stood instead of dived (unusual for a tyronie ;) it would have hit him in the chest!
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on September 02, 2008, 10:36:47 AM
Quote from: man in black on September 02, 2008, 09:45:28 AM
mulligans goal was illegal
doesn't it show you how stupid some of the rules are when you have a ref here telling us it was illegal...thank god you were not in charge of that game...fussy p***k
You cannot throw the ball from one hand to the other. Yellow card for Maximus Dickamus
Quote from: man in black on September 02, 2008, 10:43:27 AM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on September 02, 2008, 10:36:47 AM
Quote from: man in black on September 02, 2008, 09:45:28 AM
mulligans goal was illegal
doesn't it show you how stupid some of the rules are when you have a ref here telling us it was illegal...thank god you were not in charge of that game...fussy p***k
You cannot throw the ball from one hand to the other. Yellow card for Maximus Dickamus
he didnt throw the ball from one hand to the other
fantastic and legitimate goal.
Thank the lord that ye will not be in charge of the big wan...to fussy to let the game flow....more interested in the minor technicalities. Thats right LB he did THROW the ball from hand to another...
Quote from: lynchbhoy on September 02, 2008, 10:45:07 AM
Quote from: man in black on September 02, 2008, 10:43:27 AM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on September 02, 2008, 10:36:47 AM
Quote from: man in black on September 02, 2008, 09:45:28 AM
mulligans goal was illegal
doesn't it show you how stupid some of the rules are when you have a ref here telling us it was illegal...thank god you were not in charge of that game...fussy p***k
You cannot throw the ball from one hand to the other. Yellow card for Maximus Dickamus
he didnt throw the ball from one hand to the other
fantastic and legitimate goal.
Yes he did, and the number of steps taken was dubious also.
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on September 02, 2008, 10:47:14 AM
Thank the lord that ye will not be in charge of the big wan...to fussy to let the game flow....more interested in the minor technicalities. Thats right LB he did THROW the ball from hand to another...
Rules are rules, if you want to go throwing the ball around invite the globetrotters into the next all-ireland, sure they could play instead of Derry ;D
Lyngs was a good goal, but dont be silly Tony.
Mulligans was pure class. Had the misfortune to witness it live on the day :'(
QuoteYes he did, and the number of steps taken was dubious also.
That arguement would make most goals scored illegal then.
You can argue on the technicalities all you like, but Mulligans goal will long be regarded as one of, if not
the greatest ever on the hallowed turf. End of.
Tony - what a laugh !
Quote from: Over the Bar on September 02, 2008, 10:55:27 AM
QuoteYes he did, and the number of steps taken was dubious also.
That arguement would make most goals scored illegal then.
You can argue on the technicalities all you like, but Mulligans goal will long be regarded as one of, if not the greatest ever on the hallowed turf. End of.
End of,
close the board down, over the bar has delivered his verdict.
the greatest GAA goal of all time belongs to Seamus Darby, but id say the track of the nappy wasnt even on yer hole when that happened.
Quote from: man in black on September 02, 2008, 10:58:30 AM
Quote from: Over the Bar on September 02, 2008, 10:55:27 AM
QuoteYes he did, and the number of steps taken was dubious also.
That arguement would make most goals scored illegal then.
You can argue on the technicalities all you like, but Mulligans goal will long be regarded as one of, if not the greatest ever on the hallowed turf. End of.
End of,
close the board down, over the bar has delivered his verdict.
the greatest GAA goal of all time belongs to Seamus Darby, but id say the track of the nappy wasnt even on yer hole when that happened.
Sure was that not a push in the back anyway?
Mulligan did not 'throw' the ball from one hand to the other. That would suggest that there was daylight between both of his hands and the ball when he threw his 2 dummies... simply not the case. You are allowed to transfer the ball from one hand to the other as long as one hand stays in contact with the ball at all times.
Never argue with a referee screen. The little Hitler syndrome dictates that they will be correct even when wrong.
Don't know why I got involved.. this row has been going for 3 years now and people still fail to accept the truth about it. Regardless of what anyone thinks the goal stood so no amount of arguing about it is going to change anything!
His Holiness, I witnessed both goals live and remain convinced that Lyng's goal was the best of the two. It's just a pity Wexford hadn't the confidence or Matthew Forde, to push on
Quote from: screenexile on September 02, 2008, 11:18:35 AM
You are allowed to transfer the ball from one hand to the other as long as one hand stays in contact with the ball at all times.
Really! I thought you had to hop of tap the ball before it. Or maybe I'm confusing hurling rules along in it
Is tony actually giving some credit to Mulligans goal with this comparison? As we all know it's only ever the greats that are compared ;)
So much for going to the game as a neutral observer then.
Tony most on the board know your feeling towards Tyrone and the disgraceful comments you posted a few months ago about the same player, Mulligan.
Get over it.
I thought you Nordies all stuck together and cheered for each other Tony?
Anyway, the agrument over the greatest goal of all time is silly. Theres no possible way to define that. Its all about personal taste and to claim as fact that one is the greatest is arrogant in the extreme.
The rule
1.4 When a player is in possession of the ball, it
may be:-
(a) carried for a maximum of four consecutive
steps or held in the hand(s) for no longer
than the time needed to take four steps;
(b) played from the foot to the hand(s)
-toe-tapped.
(c) bounced once, and once after each toe-tap;
(d) changed from one hand to the other once,
with the original holding hand maintaining
contact until the change is completed;
(e) struck with the open hand(s) or fist,
provided there is a definite striking action;
(f) tossed for a kick, a toe-tap or a pass with
the hand(s).
The ball may be knocked from an opponent's
hand(s) by flicking it with the open hand.
Mulligan didn't throw it. (Did he change hands more than once though? - The rule is explicit about bouncing once, and once after each solo, but doesn't say anything like that re changing hands).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyeE9Xtksbc
Seemingly its legal
He did change hands twice, but he certainly didn't throw it.
I should know better than to participate in Fearon's playground drivel but on the Mulligan goal, the way I see it is that he never changed hands at all. As far as I can see, he has both hands on the ball, then takes his right hand off it and extends his left arm, holding the ball in his left hand, then returns to holding it with both hands. He does this twice. But the rule only mentions changing from one hand to the other. There's nothing about changing from two hands to one.
Another question arises. When it says you can only do this once, what does this mean? Once in what period? Presumably not once a game or once a week. I presume it means once per possession, but what is a possession? I would assume each time you play the ball (solo, hop) it's a new possession. But who can say for sure? It's just another example of how badly written the rule book is.
[Edit] Sorry - just re-read the rule and it's clear it applies "when a player is in possession of the ball". The fact that the hop, solo etc come under that heading as well would seem to imply that each solo or hop does not start a new possession.
Anyway, what's the purpose of this rule? I can see some logic in banning throwing it to yourself, but why can you change hands only once? To prevent people selling dummies - one of the great skills of the game?
Only fools buy dummies, and only two Dublin fools buy the same dummy in quick succession.
Personal likes, dislikes, prejudices or other factors do not come into it. Quite simply Lyng's was the better goal, in terms of bravery, foresight, quality of defender evaded, comparitie time on the ball and clinical execution....in my opinion of course.
Quote from: T Fearon on September 02, 2008, 01:05:18 PM
Only fools buy dummies, and only two Dublin fools buy the same dummy in quick succession.
Personal likes, dislikes, prejudices or other factors do not come into it. Quite simply Lyng's was the better goal, in terms of bravery, foresight, quality of defender evaded, comparitie time on the ball and clinical execution....in my opinion of course.
You're 100% right Tony ! And everyone here thinks you're right as well !
And we all know about your opinion Tony........ ;)
Lyng had the whole net to aim at as the keeper went to ground well before he kicked it.
Poor goalkeeping contributed to it
Pauric Brogans goal was vastly superior to them two
Quotethe greatest GAA goal of all time belongs to Seamus Darby, .
Greatest impact yes, but not greater technique or individuality. Had he scored it at the start of the game it would barely be shown again.
Quotebut id say the track of the nappy wasnt even on yer hole when that happened
Some of us on the board watched football before 1999. You'll be telling us Armagh that were the greatest team of the last 10 years next.
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Quote from: man in black on September 02, 2008, 10:43:27 AM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on September 02, 2008, 10:36:47 AM
Quote from: man in black on September 02, 2008, 09:45:28 AM
mulligans goal was illegal
doesn't it show you how stupid some of the rules are when you have a ref here telling us it was illegal...thank god you were not in charge of that game...fussy p***k
You cannot throw the ball from one hand to the other. Yellow card for Maximus Dickamus
he didnt throw the ball from one hand to the other
fantastic and legitimate goal.
Yes he did, and the number of steps taken was dubious also.
well we will never agree on this then.
Ball never thrown between hands and steps not contentious either.
I hope that you are NOT a referee !
As a "Dub/victim" of Mulligans goal, I would like to state that its pretty clear that Mulligan did NOT throw the ball from hand to hand. Totally legal.
Quote from: Over the Bar on September 02, 2008, 02:09:09 PM
QuoteAs a "Dub/victim" of Mulligans goal, I would like to state that its pretty clear that Mulligan did NOT throw the ball from hand to hand. Totally legal.
2 fat-headed Armagh posters disagree ..... now there's a surprise!
Fat headed Armagh poster ???
I've been called several things on here, but thats definately a new one ;D
Just a little reminder for you Tony ;)
Quote from: T Fearon on August 18, 2008, 03:04:18 PM
If they win this year's All Ireland title I will acknowledge the achievement and accord full credit.
Welcome back Fintona
I've said this before.....Mulligan's goal looked better on TV than in CP that day. Basically, when Christie was beaten to the ball and slipped the goal was a definite as Tyrone had a 2 man overlap. Mulligan's dummies were effective as a result of this overlap, which TV barely picks up. Imo this was a goal that would have been scored in any event. Was seated in lower Hogan Stand and had a great view of the whole move. No agenda here just giving my opinion.
The best goal I ever saw in CP is a toss up betweem Liam Hayes' (I think) v Dublin in 1988 League final replay or Keith Barr's v Kildare in (once again I think) 1993 Leinster final or the earlier Lgue final.
Have also a soft spot for a goal scored by Meath against Armagh when a Meath player on the ground brilliantly dispossessed an Armagh back of the ball leading to a goal. Really liked it as it epitomized the saying that you should never give up in the game of football.
The Meath boys will no doubt correct me but I think the tackle was made by Giles in a lgue fiinal.
Quote from: Over the Bar on September 02, 2008, 02:09:09 PM
QuoteAs a "Dub/victim" of Mulligans goal, I would like to state that its pretty clear that Mulligan did NOT throw the ball from hand to hand. Totally legal.
2 fat-headed Armagh posters disagree ..... now there's a surprise!
I hope you arent making out im from Armagh.
Aren't you a Derry man, man in black?
Widespread false accusations of Armaghness being thrown around here!
Quote from: Jinxy on September 02, 2008, 10:25:04 AM
Pearse O'Neills goal was the best of the day.
The goal of the day was the last meath goal in the minors. He drop-kicked it from 20 yards into the top corner.
I think you're right about Giles, Canalman. I wasn't at that match, but I think I remember seeing that in the highlights on TV.
Anyway,I'm sure you'll all change your minds about the greatest goal of all time when I remind you (how could you forget) about a certain Mr. Foley. Comes top of the list in all categories - quality of move, number of players involved, awareness, impact on the game, number of consecutive passes, number of defenders beaten, impact on the history of the game, absence of any hint of foul on ball or man and execution. And did I mention impact?
That's right Jinxy. You don't often see drop-kicked goals. Brolly was a right p***k about it afterwards, denying the young lad his moment of glory by rubbishing the goal, saying it was an accident, "look at the look on his face", etc. Clown. These are minors and should be encouraged, not sneered at.
Er, is the title of this debate not soely about which was the better goal, Mulligan's or Lyng's?
Quote from: T Fearon on September 02, 2008, 01:05:18 PM
Only fools buy dummies, and only two Dublin fools buy the same dummy in quick succession.
Personal likes, dislikes, prejudices or other factors do not come into it. Quite simply Lyng's was the better goal, in terms of bravery, foresight, quality of defender evaded, comparitie time on the ball and clinical execution....in my opinion of course.
You seen all that whilst stuffing a sandwich in your gob?
Quote2 fat-headed Armagh posters disagree ..... now there's a surprise!
Fat headed Armagh poster
I've been called several things on here, but thats definately a new one
They disagree with your comments hhnb.
Always interesting to see who starts the threads.
Lyngs goal was better. He beat 5 men and finished with his weaker foot.
Actually thats balls, the tyrone defense were playing past midfield when he got the ball. He outstripped one 32 year old (with a head start) - but ill give him props for the finish.
Quote from: T Fearon on September 02, 2008, 01:05:18 PM
Only fools buy dummies, and only two Dublin fools buy the same dummy in quick succession.
Personal likes, dislikes, prejudices or other factors do not come into it. Quite simply Lyng's was the better goal, in terms of bravery, foresight, quality of defender evaded, comparitie time on the ball and clinical execution....in my opinion of course.
Lets just look at this for a second here (I know I know, im indulging - should stick to the never argue with a fool philosophy)
Bravery
Lyny was untouched for the entire move
Mulligan was busted as he played the ball
Foresight
Lyng had most of the attacking 45 with no defender directly in front of him. Block (I believe) was standing off marking the other forward.
Mulligan beat his marker, beat two more men.
Quality of defender beaten.
Lyng - if he had beaten any defenders could take this title, but unfortunately there wasnt a defender within sniffing distance
Mugsy - well they were only dublin defenders, but he still beat two of them, and the all star elect goalkeeper.
As for the rest of that - if you cant dazzle them with brilliance tony - baffle us with bullshit!
Fair dues on the potential wind up however.
Quote from: Over the Bar on September 02, 2008, 02:43:08 PM
They disagree with your comments hhnb.
what that Mulligans goal was better and legal?
Strange for a Tyrone man to dissaprove of me saying that ???
Ok wakey-wakey and smell the nut-roast cornflakes!
1.You said mulligans goal was better.
2. The originator of the thread and another Armagh poster said Lyng's was better.
3. I said that's hardly surprising since they are from Armagh!
Quote from: his holiness nb on September 02, 2008, 02:52:30 PM
Quote from: Over the Bar on September 02, 2008, 02:43:08 PM
They disagree with your comments hhnb.
what that Mulligans goal was better and legal?
Strange for a Tyrone man to dissaprove of me saying that ???
shut up ya Armagh fathead ! ! !
:D :D :D
Quote from: Over the Bar on September 02, 2008, 03:05:47 PM
Ok wakey-wakey and smell the nut-roast cornflakes!
1.You said mulligans goal was better.
2. The originator of the thread and another Armagh poster said Lyng's was better.
3. I said that's hardly surprising since they are from Armagh!
Right ye be :-[
Just to chip in at this late stage I definitely think this thread is just anti-tyrone bias by T Fearon. Mulligans goal I'm sure was infinitely better in the minds of 99% of people who have seen both.
As for the comment about the young meath players goal I know this is drifting away from this thread but I thought Brolly was a bit patronising after the game. Was unfair of him to talk it down when this is a young fella who I'm sure would have got a boost to his confidence by hearing the pundits praising his goal after suffering a heavy defeat in an all ireland semifinal! No need for it at all!
Quote from: Hardy on September 02, 2008, 02:30:23 PM
I think you're right about Giles, Canalman. I wasn't at that match, but I think I remember seeing that in the highlights on TV.
Anyway,I'm sure you'll all change your minds about the greatest goal of all time when I remind you (how could you forget) about a certain Mr. Foley. Comes top of the list in all categories - quality of move, number of players involved, awareness, impact on the game, number of consecutive passes, number of defenders beaten, impact on the history of the game, absence of any hint of foul on ball or man and execution. And did I mention impact?
You forgot one category Hardy - the overcarrying. Tommy Dowd took 6 steps (from memory :D) ....
Seriously though, referees are very reluctant to disallow goals for overcarrying. It seems they don't have the nerve to call the game back as the ball crashes to the net and the stadium explodes. Sean Cavanagh's goal v Dublin was an example. Fair enough, when lads are trying to escape from a challenge they do get the benefit of the doubt, but even with that consideration he way over-carried. And then there was the first Cork goal v Kerry in the drawn game, if I'm not mistaken ... and that's only in the last few weeks.
Now don't start me about john Fitzgibbon's winning "goal" in the 1990 Hurling Final ..!! And you're only allowed 3 steps in hurling!!
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Quote from: Maximus Marillius on September 02, 2008, 10:36:47 AM
Quote from: man in black on September 02, 2008, 09:45:28 AM
mulligans goal was illegal
doesn't it show you how stupid some of the rules are when you have a ref here telling us it was illegal...thank god you were not in charge of that game...fussy p***k
You cannot throw the ball from one hand to the other. Yellow card for Maximus Dickamus
he didnt throw the ball from one hand to the other
fantastic and legitimate goal.
After Mulligan's second toe-tap he caught the ball with his right hand. Changed it to his left hand and dummied the defender by showing him the ball. All ok so far, but then he changed it back to his right hand to bounce. So he changed hands twice between the toe-tap and the bounce which is a foul. Have a look - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyeE9Xtksbc
Surely on the basis that he grossly overcarried the ball, Mulligan's goal was illegal. If you disregard that, certainly it was a great score, but.......................
Quote from: Hardy on September 02, 2008, 02:30:23 PM
I think you're right about Giles, Canalman. I wasn't at that match, but I think I remember seeing that in the highlights on TV.
Anyway,I'm sure you'll all change your minds about the greatest goal of all time when I remind you (how could you forget) about a certain Mr. Foley. Comes top of the list in all categories - quality of move, number of players involved, awareness, impact on the game, number of consecutive passes, number of defenders beaten, impact on the history of the game, absence of any hint of foul on ball or man and execution. And did I mention impact?
Yeah it was Giles alright. He was on the ground after a tackle and he just popped the ball out of the Armagh defenders hands with a deft little flick. He would only have been 18/19 then I think. Oh Trevor, we didn't get to see half enough of you. A truly outstanding footballer.
In fact Mulligans goal is almost an exact copy of a goal scored by a Monaghan man Ray McCarron back in the 80's I think in Clones or Breffini.
The funny thing is both players have almost identical builds and similar styles, barrell chested and great turn of pace.
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Quote from: Maximus Marillius on September 02, 2008, 10:36:47 AM
Quote from: man in black on September 02, 2008, 09:45:28 AM
mulligans goal was illegal
doesn't it show you how stupid some of the rules are when you have a ref here telling us it was illegal...thank god you were not in charge of that game...fussy p***k
You cannot throw the ball from one hand to the other. Yellow card for Maximus Dickamus
he didnt throw the ball from one hand to the other
fantastic and legitimate goal.
After Mulligan's second toe-tap he caught the ball with his right hand. Changed it to his left hand and dummied the defender by showing him the ball. All ok so far, but then he changed it back to his right hand to bounce. So he changed hands twice between the toe-tap and the bounce which is a foul. Have a look - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyeE9Xtksbc
No doubt had you been ref you would have completed this full analysis in real time and awarded a free out?
Thats how good a goal it was, he dummied the players, and the referee.
Quote from: JMohan on September 02, 2008, 07:07:30 PM
In fact Mulligans goal is almost an exact copy of a goal scored by a Monaghan man Ray McCarron back in the 80's I think in Clones or Breffini.
The funny thing is both players have almost identical builds and similar styles, barrell chested and great turn of pace.
Against Cavan I think too
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Quote from: Maximus Marillius on September 02, 2008, 10:36:47 AM
Quote from: man in black on September 02, 2008, 09:45:28 AM
mulligans goal was illegal
doesn't it show you how stupid some of the rules are when you have a ref here telling us it was illegal...thank god you were not in charge of that game...fussy p***k
You cannot throw the ball from one hand to the other. Yellow card for Maximus Dickamus
he didnt throw the ball from one hand to the other
fantastic and legitimate goal.
After Mulligan's second toe-tap he caught the ball with his right hand. Changed it to his left hand and dummied the defender by showing him the ball. All ok so far, but then he changed it back to his right hand to bounce. So he changed hands twice between the toe-tap and the bounce which is a foul. Have a look - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyeE9Xtksbc
Nah Heff, dont agree...
you CAN change the ball from one hand to the other as long as the ball does not go from one to the other in mid air - Mulligan put both hands on the ball each time he 'changed ' hands - which is legal.
Rem seeing the goal from all angles at the time and could see nothing wrong with it then.
Def wont see anything wrong now with eyesight not getting better with old age!
Hoors still crying about a goal 3 years ago :D :D :D :D
Quote from: tyssam5 on September 02, 2008, 07:17:33 PM
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Quote from: Maximus Marillius on September 02, 2008, 10:36:47 AM
Quote from: man in black on September 02, 2008, 09:45:28 AM
mulligans goal was illegal
doesn't it show you how stupid some of the rules are when you have a ref here telling us it was illegal...thank god you were not in charge of that game...fussy p***k
You cannot throw the ball from one hand to the other. Yellow card for Maximus Dickamus
he didnt throw the ball from one hand to the other
fantastic and legitimate goal.
After Mulligan's second toe-tap he caught the ball with his right hand. Changed it to his left hand and dummied the defender by showing him the ball. All ok so far, but then he changed it back to his right hand to bounce. So he changed hands twice between the toe-tap and the bounce which is a foul. Have a look - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyeE9Xtksbc
No doubt had you been ref you would have completed this full analysis in real time and awarded a free out?
Very unlikely I would've - but in the cold light of analysis he fouled the ball...
did someone write his name in the ground and piss on it?
Quote from: man in black on September 02, 2008, 09:45:28 AM
mulligans goal was illegal
it was? Jeez I always thought that the ref gave it! ;D
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Quote from: Hardy on September 02, 2008, 02:30:23 PM
I think you're right about Giles, Canalman. I wasn't at that match, but I think I remember seeing that in the highlights on TV.
Anyway,I'm sure you'll all change your minds about the greatest goal of all time when I remind you (how could you forget) about a certain Mr. Foley. Comes top of the list in all categories - quality of move, number of players involved, awareness, impact on the game, number of consecutive passes, number of defenders beaten, impact on the history of the game, absence of any hint of foul on ball or man and execution. And did I mention impact?
You forgot one category Hardy - the overcarrying. Tommy Dowd took 6 steps (from memory :D) ....
Seriously though, referees are very reluctant to disallow goals for overcarrying. It seems they don't have the nerve to call the game back as the ball crashes to the net and the stadium explodes. Sean Cavanagh's goal v Dublin was an example. Fair enough, when lads are trying to escape from a challenge they do get the benefit of the doubt, but even with that consideration he way over-carried. And then there was the first Cork goal v Kerry in the drawn game, if I'm not mistaken ... and that's only in the last few weeks.
Now don't start me about john Fitzgibbon's winning "goal" in the 1990 Hurling Final ..!! And you're only allowed 3 steps in hurling!!
model watch the Tyrone dublin game again.......sean Cavanagh kicked his goal on his 7th step, with a ross hanging out of him for the last 5 of them!
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Quote from: Hardy on September 02, 2008, 02:30:23 PM
I think you're right about Giles, Canalman. I wasn't at that match, but I think I remember seeing that in the highlights on TV.
Anyway,I'm sure you'll all change your minds about the greatest goal of all time when I remind you (how could you forget) about a certain Mr. Foley. Comes top of the list in all categories - quality of move, number of players involved, awareness, impact on the game, number of consecutive passes, number of defenders beaten, impact on the history of the game, absence of any hint of foul on ball or man and execution. And did I mention impact?
You forgot one category Hardy - the overcarrying. Tommy Dowd took 6 steps (from memory :D) ....
Seriously though, referees are very reluctant to disallow goals for overcarrying. It seems they don't have the nerve to call the game back as the ball crashes to the net and the stadium explodes. Sean Cavanagh's goal v Dublin was an example. Fair enough, when lads are trying to escape from a challenge they do get the benefit of the doubt, but even with that consideration he way over-carried. And then there was the first Cork goal v Kerry in the drawn game, if I'm not mistaken ... and that's only in the last few weeks.
Now don't start me about john Fitzgibbon's winning "goal" in the 1990 Hurling Final ..!! And you're only allowed 3 steps in hurling!!
model watch the Tyrone dublin game again.......sean Cavanagh kicked his goal on his 7th step, with a ross hanging out of him for the last 5 of them!
I think thats called 'playing the advantage' by the ref
and is correct imo
QuoteVery unlikely I would've - but in the cold light of analysis he fouled the ball...
In the cold light on analysis, which never applies in reality, the majority of championship goals would involve some indiscretion or other that could make them illegal. e.g. Kerry whingers will forever say that that Seamus Darby's was illegal.
Has there been any other way when they are beaten?
10 years on from Mulligan's goal - it's still better ;D
LOL are you telling me that Tony was at this 10years ago as well.
He's found of the coattails :D
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mulligans goal was illegal
doesn't it show you how stupid some of the rules are when you have a ref here telling us it was illegal...thank god you were not in charge of that game...fussy p***k
You cannot throw the ball from one hand to the other. Yellow card for Maximus Dickamus
he didnt throw the ball from one hand to the other
fantastic and legitimate goal.
It was a brilliant goal because the referee allowed it, it should never have stood because it should have been deemed illegal based on his handling of the ball and the number of steps between solos.